Rumor What's going on in Portland? (3 Viewers)

[Phatguysrule]

Huh? When is eating crow humiliating?


Its admitting being wrong. If you cant handle that and it humiliates you then... i dunno what to say.

why ask me to do something that you have openly admitted even if presented with, you will just deny and wont admit you are wrong?

this is seriously funny.

See the top result... Again, you supporting your case doesn't prove me wrong, doesn't humiliate me, and doesn't defeat me. I'm simply asking you to support your case before we continue with a conversation, so that I know what we are actually conversing about.

If you support your case I'll be glad to engage in the conversation. If you don't I'll just have to assume this is just another antifa boogie monster fantasy...

 

[Orion Bailey]

See the top result... Again, you supporting your case doesn't prove me wrong, doesn't humiliate me, and doesn't defeat me. I'm simply asking you to support your case before we continue with a conversation, so that I know what we are actually conversing about.

If you support your case I'll be glad to engage in the conversation. If you don't I'll just have to assume this is just another antifa boogie monster fantasy...

but you already said no one said that. So you already know. And when asked if presented with evidence to the contrary you said you wouldn't admit it.
And you want me to attempt to continue to have a conversation?

lol.

 

[RR7]

but you already said no one said that. So you already know. And when asked if presented with evidence to the contrary you said you wouldn't admit it.
And you want me to attempt to continue to have a conversation?

lol.

He didn't say he wouldn't admit it. He clearly has a different interpretation of what eating crow is than you do. But you zip right past that and double down on saying that he won't admit he was wrong.
And YOU want to complain about spin? Seriously. I dont know if you're doing it intentionally or just can't follow a conversation to be honest

 

[Orion Bailey]

He didn't say he wouldn't admit it. He clearly has a different interpretation of what eating crow is than you do. But you zip right past that and double down on saying that he won't admit he was wrong.
And YOU want to complain about spin? Seriously. I dont know if you're doing it intentionally or just can't follow a conversation to be honest

Spin?

what does eating crow mean other than to admit being wrong aBout something?

if it means something else, ill admit it because im that kind of guy. Just like when i was made aware ignorant means more than unknowing.
So tell me whats so humiliating about admitting being wrong?

what interpretation of eating crow differs from meaning admitting being wrong??

Im truly not sure if you do these things on purpose or if you actually honestly believe what you say.
Your spinning for a spinner now.

lol.


Im the only one i know of around here who debates with me who can admit when they are wrong. Ive proven many here wrong in the past and merely get the silent treatment.

you have even done it.
Now go back to your huddle with your echo chamber and come up with another play i will defend successfully.


Its amazing how hard it is for many here to admit being wrong. Its like impossible for some of you.
Cracks me up because to me its a major sign of weakness.

 

[Phatguysrule]

but you already said no one said that. So you already know. And when asked if presented with evidence to the contrary you said you wouldn't admit it.
And you want me to attempt to continue to have a conversation?

lol.

It's becoming apparent why you're so frustrated if you're trying to converse using alternate meanings to commonly used words and phrases. Since you seem unable to click the link I posted I have included the definition of "to eat crow" below. I don't know how you supporting your case could in any way defeat me or humiliate me so I'm not sure what you're asking for. But we can not get further in the conversation unless you're willing to support your claims with some evidence. Since you are unwilling to support your claims, I'm afraid we're at an impasse.

To eat crow
phrase of crow

1. INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN
   be humiliated by having to admit one's defeats or mistakes.

 

[Orion Bailey]

He didn't say he wouldn't admit it. He clearly has a different interpretation of what eating crow is than you do. But you zip right past that and double down on saying that he won't admit he was wrong.
And YOU want to complain about spin? Seriously. I dont know if you're doing it intentionally or just can't follow a conversation to be honest

also. He didn't say he WOULD admit it. But you just zip right past that too Dont you?


Lol.

this shits too easy.

 

[Orion Bailey]

It's becoming apparent why you're so frustrated if you're trying to converse using alternate meanings to commonly used words and phrases. Since you seem unable to click the link I posted I have included the definition of "to eat crow" below. I don't know how you supporting your case could in any way defeat me or humiliate me so I'm not sure what you're asking for. But we can not get further in the conversation unless you're willing to support your claims with some evidence. Since you are unwilling to support your claims, I'm afraid we're at an impasse.

To eat crow
phrase of crow

1. INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN
   be humiliated by having to admit one's defeats or mistakes.

never new it was humiliating to admit ones mistake.
I dont know why that would ever be humiliating to anyone but i was wrong.

i also didnt see a link or missed it?


At any rate. On S2 many have used eat crow as a way to say they will admit being wrong.
If you want to argue semantics fine. Dont eat crow. Would you admit to being wrong?


The frustration is there are common words used all the time, but then if i use it its literal all of a sudden.

cracks me up the goalpost shifting.

my point a along is hardly anyone here admits to being wrong when present with evidence.

are you different?

frustration is too many people focus and argue semantics rather than the actual point. much like you arguing Bout not wanting to be humiliated when its clearly evident based on context i meant admit being wrong. Not be humiliated.

 

[Phatguysrule]

also. He didn't say he WOULD admit it. But you just zip right past that too Dont you?


Lol.

this shits too easy.

Admit what? If you quote the post I'll certainly admit that you quoted an actual post. If you quote something that proves me wrong I'll certainly admit I'm wrong. However, I haven't made any claims other than assuming nobody in this thread wants violent arsonists to be immune from the law. I'd be surprised to find out that anybody said that, but sure, if you quoted their statement I'd admit they said it. Why would that even be in question?

 

[Orion Bailey]

See thats how eating crow and admitting being wrong works.

ill give kudos to anyone here who can be stand up about also being wrong.
Ill just continue to joke and mock those who cant.


im soooo humiliated now. Lol.


Not....

 

[Orion Bailey]

Admit what? If you quote the post I'll certainly admit that you quoted an actual post. If you quote something that proves me wrong I'll certainly admit I'm wrong. However, I haven't made any claims other than assuming nobody in this thread wants violent arsonists to be immune from the law. I'd be surprised to find out that anybody said that, but sure, if you quoted their statement I'd admit they said it. Why would that even be in question?

you keep claiming arson Only, when i said vandalism from the get go. I see you are already moving the goal posts so you can claim being correct when i find posts of people saying you are on the wrong side if condemning the vandalism.
Seems you Re already prepRing for me to quote posts stating we just kneed to let them vent etc.

 

[RR7]

Spin?

what does eating crow mean other than to admit being wrong aBout something?

if it means something else, ill admit it because im that kind of guy. Just like when i was made aware ignorant means more than unknowing.
So tell me whats so humiliating about admitting being wrong?

what interpretation of eating crow differs from meaning admitting being wrong??

Im truly not sure if you do these things on purpose or if you actually honestly believe what you say.
Your spinning for a spinner now.

lol.


Im the only one i know of around here who debates with me who can admit when they are wrong. Ive proven many here wrong in the past and merely get the silent treatment.

you have even done it.
Now go back to your huddle with your echo chamber and come up with another play i will defend successfully.


Its amazing how hard it is for many here to admit being wrong. Its like impossible for some of you.
Cracks me up because to me its a major sign of weakness.

Eating crow is a colloquial idiom, used in some English-speaking countries, that means humiliation by admitting having been proven wrong after taking a strong position

 

[Phatguysrule]

See thats how eating crow and admitting being wrong works.

ill give kudos to anyone here who can be stand up about also being wrong.
Ill just continue to joke and mock those who cant.


im soooo humiliated now. Lol.


Not....

Thanks, that's very big of you. Now then... the quotes?

 

[Orion Bailey]

Thanks, that's very big of you. Now then... the quotes?

Im not gonna sift through pages on my phone. that will have to wait until im on my pc.
But i can tell you right now that dviss, someone i have mad respect for overall came on here and straight up said anyone complaining about the vandalism is on the wrong side.
When people pointed out the vandalism was wrong it was rebutted with vandalsim<Murder.
basically saying its okay because someone was murdered.


ill find them....

 

[Orion Bailey]

never new it was humiliating to admit ones mistake.
I dont know why that would ever be humiliating to anyone but i was wrong.

i also didnt see a link or missed it?


At any rate. On S2 many have used eat crow as a way to say they will admit being wrong.
If you want to argue semantics fine. Dont eat crow. Would you admit to being wrong?


The frustration is there are common words used all the time, but then if i use it its literal all of a sudden.

cracks me up the goalpost shifting.

my point a along is hardly anyone here admits to being wrong when present with evidence.

are you different?

frustration is too many people focus and argue semantics rather than the actual point. much like you arguing Bout not wanting to be humiliated when its clearly evident based on context i meant admit being wrong. Not be humiliated

 

[Phatguysrule]

you keep claiming arson Only, when i said vandalism from the get go. I see you are already moving the goal posts so you can claim being correct when i find posts of people saying you are on the wrong side if condemning the vandalism.
Seems you Re already prepRing for me to quote posts stating we just kneed to let them vent etc.

When did I ever claim I was correct?
But yeah, I don't really care about spray painting walls during political protests. That's a non-issue. If you have evidence of somebody doing it feel free to arrest them if you feel that's a good use of resources... it will solve nothing and waste time... I can't believe you're this upset over some spray paint, though... as soon as the protests stop the surface damage will be fixed in a week at minimal cost.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Im not gonna sift through pages on my phone. that will have to wait until im on my pc.
But i can tell you right now that dviss, someone i have mad respect for overall came on here and straight up said anyone complaining about the vandalism is on the wrong side.
When people pointed out the vandalism was wrong it was rebutted with vandalsim<Murder.
basically saying its okay because someone was murdered.


ill find them....

Then I would agree with him. Vandalism is a byproduct of a much larger problem. It's pointless to try and address some spray paint right now. I don't think anybody cares about vandalism at the attempted capital insurrection either.

 

[Orion Bailey]

When did I ever claim I was correct?
But yeah, I don't really care about spray painting walls during political protests. That's a non-issue. If you have evidence of somebody doing it feel free to arrest them if you feel that's a good use of resources... it will solve nothing and waste time... I can't believe you're this upset over some spray paint, though... as soon as the protests stop the surface damage will be fixed in a week at minimal cost.

okay so more spin huh? Who said I'm upset over some spray paint?

i asked you this before and you never answered. Are you saying the only vandalism that has happened downtown portland is graffiti? Because you keep focusing on “spray paint”....


Whats upsetting is when people act like al “l that has happened downtown portland is some graffiti when most know full well thats not nearly all of it. At all.

Thats about the same accuracy as me saying 90% of the tresspassers on jan 6th simply got lost while on a tour.....

see how this downplay game works?

were back to full circle. You downplaying whats been happening in portland. But raising an uproar if someone applies those same rules to jan6th trespassers.

I never said cop killing was the same as trespassing. But if were gonna downplay the actions going on downtown then ill downplay the actions at the capital.

Tresspassing, vandalism, etc of a government building should have equal punishment. But the stance now is very much different than it was last summer when the roles were reversed.

some people may think they are different but they would be wrong. And likely biased.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Then I would agree with him. Vandalism is a byproduct of a much larger problem. It's pointless to try and address some spray paint right now. I don't think anybody cares about vandalism at the attempted capital insurrection either.

really? Read the Jan 6th thread. Lol. Long before it was known a murder happened they were heathens. The lot of them at the capital.

lol

 

[Phatguysrule]

okay so more spin huh? Who said I'm upset over some spray paint?

i asked you this before and you never answered. Are you saying the only vandalism that has happened downtown portland is graffiti? Because you keep focusing on “spray paint”....


Whats upsetting is when people act like al “l that has happened downtown portland is some graffiti when most know full well thats not nearly all of it. At all.

Thats about the same accuracy as me saying 90% of the tresspassers on jan 6th simply got lost while on a tour.....

see how this downplay game works?

were back to full circle. You downplaying whats been happening in portland. But raising an uproar if someone applies those same rules to jan6th trespassers.

I never said cop killing was the same as trespassing. But if were gonna downplay the actions going on downtown then ill downplay the actions at the capital.

Tresspassing, vandalism, etc of a government building should have equal punishment. But the stance now is very much different than it was last summer when the roles were reversed.

some people may think they are different but they would be wrong. And likely biased.

Or broken windows. Again. If that's what we're spending our time then we are focused on the wrong issues. Nobody is upset about the broken windows at the capital building either. Anybody who broke into any building in Portland or the capital should be punished by the law. If you broke in to any building with a bunch of people who killed people (especially a police officer) you should expect a harsher punishment by the law.

This is very simple.

 

[Phatguysrule]

really? Read the Jan 6th thread. Lol. Long before it was known a murder happened they were heathens. The lot of them at the capital.

lol

Oh I think anybody buying Trumps BS and who went down there are absolute fools. No question about it. But if you can't link me a quote of somebody in this thread in this conversation saying people should be arrested for the same thing at the capital that they dismissed in Portland I still fail to see your point. You're just wasting your time.

If it happened just quote both posts right here. Also, very simple.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Or broken windows. Again. If that's what we're spending our time then we are focused on the wrong issues. Nobody is upset about the broken windows at the capital building either. Anybody who broke into any building in Portland or the capital should be punished by the law. If you broke in to any building with a bunch of people who killed people (especially a police officer) you should expect a harsher punishment by the law.

This is very simple.

lol. No its not. Some who broke the building never new an officer was murdered. But they should be punished harsher?

see its this type of generalizing that is frustrating. By that rule, all protestors who help instigated an attempt on the police hq should be charged the same as the worst of them who tired toightvthe building on firecwith people inside.

See you want it both ways and im not gonna allow that. It isnt fair or equal.

Which is the whole point of the protests!!!

Equal treatment for individuals committing the same crimes.
Except of course when it works against me, then fuck it. Ill dismiss some of the crimes....

 

[Orion Bailey]

Oh I think anybody buying Trumps BS and who went down there are absolute fools. No question about it. But if you can't link me a quote of somebody in this thread in this conversation saying people should be arrested for the same thing at the capital that they dismissed in Portland I still fail to see your point. You're just wasting your time.

If it happened just quote both posts right here. Also, very simple.

and i said ill do that when i get on a pc.

if its soo simple, find me a post where i was soo upset about spray paint. You claimed i was upset about spray paint.
Show me the post.

see how this game works? Its really very simple.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Oh I think anybody buying Trumps BS and who went down there are absolute fools. No question about it. But if you can't link me a quote of somebody in this thread in this conversation saying people should be arrested for the same thing at the capital that they dismissed in Portland I still fail to see your point. You're just wasting your time.

If it happened just quote both posts right here. Also, very simple.

why does it now have to be in this conversation in this thread when ive said all along this was last summer?


Man how far you gonna move those goal posts to try to stay in the game?

ill still keep scoring and winning regardless though.

 

[Phatguysrule]

lol. No its not. Some who broke the building never new an officer was murdered. But they should be punished harsher?

see its this type of generalizing that is frustrating. By that rule, all protestors who help instigated an attempt on the police hq should be charged the same as the worst of them who tired toightvthe building on firecwith people inside.

See you want it both ways and im not gonna allow that. It isnt fair or equal.

Which is the whole point of the protests!!!

Equal treatment for individuals committing the same crimes.
Except of course when it works against me, then fuck it. Ill dismiss some of the crimes....

I didn't say they should be charged the same as the worst offender... But if you are involved in a crime that results in murder you will face a tougher punishment. I have yet to see evidence that anybody here disagrees with that. If anybody dies in any of the buildings that are broken into in Portland I would want everybody who broke in to be punished more severely as well.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I didn't say they should be charged the same as the worst offender... But if you are involved in a crime that results in murder you will face a tougher punishment. I have yet to see evidence that anybody here disagrees with that. If anybody dies in any of the buildings that are broken into in Portland I would want everybody who broke in to be punished more severely as well.

even if some had no intention or knowledge of others murdering in another section of the building?

sure glad you aRent a judge or prosecuting attorney

i would only want those who had first hand knowledge of, intent of or participated in a murder to be punished harsher.

 

[Phatguysrule]

and i said ill do that when i get on a pc.

if its soo simple, find me a post where i was soo upset about spray paint. You claimed i was upset about spray paint.
Show me the post.

see how this game works? Its really very simple.

I actually said

I can't believe you're this upset over some spray paint, though...

So good. I'm glad you're not.

 

[Phatguysrule]

even if some had no intention or knowledge of others murdering in another section of the building?

sure glad you aRent a judge or prosecuting attorney

i would only want those who had first hand knowledge of, intent of or participated in a murder to be punished harsher.

Yep, we all have different opinions. That's okay.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I actually said
So good. I'm glad you're not.

lol more superficial semantics to sidestep.
You saying you can't beleive im so upset is saying you believe im so upset.
Lets not mince words here.
Ill win again.

 

[Orion Bailey]

@Phatguysrule

some more dismissing of downtown events.

#Swoon

point taken

but, I noticed that that longer 'justification' used the term "violent anarchists" 28 different times, which seems a lot more like propaganda than any legal finding. Which makes me wonder how much false, misleading, and exaggerated claims are in that justification

if they are going to "protect federal property", then have the balls to clear the protestors out of the area. The Governor and Mayor are objecting to the fact these LE officers are ranging around, blocks from any federal property, and making "arrests". If the justification allows these guys to range that far and wide, then go ahead and declare martial law in the area and end the protests. But of course, the white house doesn't really want the protests to end, they want to gradually escalate and collect photo-ops

iTs JuSt GrAfiTtI

My God, the man is adding to the graffiti. He should be shot, taken to the hospital under guard or picked up by an unmarked car and hauled off to some sort of secret facility for questioning. Personally, I would favor some sort of torture or at the very minimum a good beating perhaps never to be seen or heard from again. Imagine that, actually drawing graffiti showing how the Make America Great Again Trump administration is doing something wrong. A news man was shot? Good, they show nothing but fake news. Don't believe your lying eyes when you watch the fake news.

What's happening in Portland is the same thing that's happening in every state in our union. People are tired of police overstepping their bounds.

People in here are part of the problem.

Your priorities aren't straight and it shows. You're worried about the WHAT instead of worrying about the WHY. You are more concerned about property than people!!

You don't seem to have any concern about the unnamed federal agents that are whisking people away in unmarked vehicles!! You are on the side of the fascists...

Ironically, you are the SAME people that complain about government overreach when the someone tells you to put on a FUCKING mask!! You people are pathetic... And we will defeat you... This RACIST system of things is going to end...

You are watching it in it's last throes...

If you're offended by this post you have some soul searching to do...

 

[Orion Bailey]

Yep, we all have different opinions. That's okay.

as long as you understand tour stance is merely an opinion Nd not fact.