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When should Chauncey be fired?

  • Yesterday

    Votes: 11 21.6%

  • Let him coach out the season (it'll help with the tank) but then fire him

    Votes: 30 58.8%

  • Lay off him - it's not Chauncey's fault!

    Votes: 10 19.6%
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the worst coaching moment for Billups was back in late December. He allowed Justise Winslow to limp and fall and crawl all the way to half court. Chauncey refused to call timeout.

Why?? Because Ant had the ball and was about to make something happen. Billups was running his O and nothing, nothing, not even a clearly injured player was going to deter Chauncey from getting his guys a basket.
 
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HailBlazers said:
Stotts record was pretty abysmal as well his first couple years.
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Crazy to think Rasheed had his highest PPG and BPG averages under Stotts. What could've been with those two!
 
Phatguysrule said:
Disagree. I'd much prefer Stotts. But neither are capable of putting a team over the top.
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All we know is neither are capable of putting mediocre/slightly above average rosters over the top. It's not like these guys have had a decade worth of NBA championships rosters (like Doc Rivers).
 
Tince said:
All we know is neither are capable of putting mediocre/slightly above average rosters over the top. It's not like these guys have had a decade worth of NBA championships rosters (like Doc Rivers).
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Right. And they lose more games than they should with those rosters. I'm confident neither are good enough to coach any Portland team ever assembled to a championship.

Neither are as capable as Dr Jack, Adelman, or probably even Dunleavy.

We need a better coach to get where Dame wants to go.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Right. And they lose more games than they should with those rosters. I'm confident neither are good enough to coach any Portland team ever assembled to a championship.

Neither are as capable as Dr Jack, Adelman, or probably even Dunleavy.

We need a better coach to get where Dame wants to go.
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How does one determine "they lose more games than they should"? We know many Stotts teams out-performed Vegas' expectations, which are going to have less bias than a fan.

Portland has probably had 5-6 rosters good enough to win a title. Two of the coaches, both of which I like, failed to win a championship while having a championship roster. In fact, Adelman and Dunleavy also had championship rosters with another organization as well, and failed to win a title with those teams either. And to be clear, I'm not crapping on those two, but at the same time, we actually have some proof that those guys couldn't win titles with championship rosters. That's more than we have with Billups or Stotts.

I didn't watch Ramsey coach, so it wouldn't be fair for me to speak on where he ranks.
 
Tince said:
How does one determine "they lose more games than they should"? We know many Stotts teams out-performed Vegas' expectations, which are going to have less bias than a fan.

Portland has probably had 5-6 rosters good enough to win a title. Two of the coaches, both of which I like, failed to win a championship while having a championship roster. In fact, Adelman and Dunleavy also had championship rosters with another organization as well, and failed to win a title with those teams either. And to be clear, I'm not crapping on those two, but at the same time, we actually have some proof that those guys couldn't win titles with championship rosters. That's more than we have with Billups or Stotts.

I didn't watch Ramsey coach, so it wouldn't be fair for me to speak on where he ranks.
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We've lost a league leading 16 games after leading by double digits. That's on Billups, IMO.

I've watched all of them coach (Ramsey were obviously re-runs). Neither Stotts or Billups are as good as any of those 3. Stotts is closer, IMO. He adapted his system to the players he was given. And he actually did it fairly well. And I was not of fan of hiring Stotts originally.

Adelman was good enough to win championships. And very well could have if weren't part of one of the most controversial reffing series in NBA history.

And I honestly think Dunleavy out coached Adelman when his Lakers upset the Blazers. Dunleavy was also part of a very controversial game in which Shaq has admitted he let the air out of the ball prior to the comeback.

I don't have to tell you how much easier long range 3s are to make with an underinflated basketball (Brian Shaw). Or how much shorter the rebounds come off (benefit to Shaq).

Not to mention that Sabas was shutting Shaq down until he got into foul trouble.

The Blazers were definitely good enough and well enough coached to win the championship that season.

But winning a title takes luck as well.

When you're playing the Lakers in the playoffs you have to overcome a lot of bad luck.
 
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Wouldn't be opposed. Though what did you expect with the unfucking cronin has done.

Wouldn't mind seeing a complete overhaul of coach/GM/owner but that's asking for too much and it's not realistic so quickly, so whatever happens happens and we get a lottery pick lol.
 
Strenuus said:



Wouldn't be opposed. Though what did you expect with the unfucking cronin has done.

Wouldn't mind seeing a complete overhaul of coach/GM/owner but that's asking for too much and it's not realistic so quickly, so whatever happens happens and we get a lottery pick lol.
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I just don't see any way that we have a new owner/GM/coach before Dame is washed.
 
Blazers have set up a nice guy system. GM is nice to Billups. Then Billups is nice to players. And team reporters are nice to the GM and Billups. Blazers can lose big like tonight, and everyone is still smiling for the cameras.
 
Phatguysrule said:
We've lost a league leading 16 games after leading by double digits. That's on Billups, IMO.

I've watched all of them coach (Ramsey were obviously re-runs). Neither Stotts or Billups are as good as any of those 3. Stotts is closer, IMO. He adapted his system to the players he was given. And he actually did it fairly well. And I was not of fan of hiring Stotts originally.

Adelman was good enough to win championships. And very well could have if weren't part of one of the most controversial reffing series in NBA history.

And I honestly think Dunleavy out coached Adelman when his Lakers upset the Blazers. Dunleavy was also part of a very controversial game in which Shaq has admitted he let the air out of the ball prior to the comeback.

I don't have to tell you how much easier long range 3s are to make with an underinflated basketball (Brian Shaw). Or how much shorter the rebounds come off (benefit to Shaq).

Not to mention that Sabas was shutting Shaq down until he got into foul trouble.

The Blazers were definitely good enough and well enough coached to win the championship that season.

But winning a title takes luck as well.

When you're playing the Lakers in the playoffs you have to overcome a lot of bad luck.
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Wait...shaq did what?
 


Mighty Mouse's first assistant gig: 2009
Chauncey's first assistant gig: 2020
 
I think Chauncey should be moved from coaching to the front office as Joe's assistant but I know they won't do that because they're still paying Stotts millions this season not to coach...they don't want to pay two guys back to back not to coach. Moving Chauncey to the front office like Brad Stevens did in Boston he'd still have a job, just a different one. Find the best defensive minded coach available as soon as possible. Don't know who that is but there has to be a defensive coordinator working for a top 5 defensive team out there. I'd consider Mark Jackson even at this point...he jumpstarted the Warrior dynasty and had them playing defense before Kerr got there. I can't stand him as a commentator but folks say he's a great coach
 
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Samuel said:
I love that. A promotion! Nice job, Chauncey!
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Chauncey wouldn't be GM...he'd be an assistant on Joe's staff....keeps Dame happy and makes room for a playoff ready coach. It's a way to not buy him out but re-assign him within the organization..it's a demotion from head coaching but makes him an apprentice which is where he's at at this point in his career. That tweet was pretty funny though!
 
Could Nick Nurse be on the hot seat? Another name and it might be a longshot, but how about Steve Kerr? If Golden State doesn’t do too well in the playoffs this season might they look elsewhere? Pretty much all coaches will wear out their welcome at some point.
 
The Kerr name sort of reminds me of the fans that think MVP candidate Joel Embiid is going to ask out.
 
Samuel said:
The Kerr name sort of reminds me of the fans that think MVP candidate Joel Embiid is going to ask out.
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nah...Doc Rivers would be the reason Embiid asks out and especially if Harden leaves for Houston which is rumored. If Philly doesn't win soon players will bail. Happened with the Nets...who'd have thought Harden, KD and Kyrie would all ask out when they should've won a chip together? That's no more far fetched than a star wanting to play with Dame in his prime. Nobody thought Brad Stevens would give up coaching in Boston and move to the front office either. Pat Riley did the same thing back in the day.
 
riverman said:
nah...Doc Rivers would be the reason Embiid asks out and especially if Harden leaves for Houston which is rumored. If Philly doesn't win soon players will bail. Happened with the Nets...who'd have thought Harden, KD and Kyrie would all ask out when they should've won a chip together? That's no more far fetched than a star wanting to play with Dame in his prime. Nobody thought Brad Stevens would give up coaching in Boston and move to the front office either. Pat Riley did the same thing back in the day.
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That's expecting a lot. They're closer to retooling than a full-scale nuclear option. Blazers fans seem to be banking on this as a thing that will probably happen. Dame has also been rumored to leave—that didn't happen either.
 
Phatguysrule said:
We've lost a league leading 16 games after leading by double digits. That's on Billups, IMO.

I've watched all of them coach (Ramsey were obviously re-runs). Neither Stotts or Billups are as good as any of those 3. Stotts is closer, IMO. He adapted his system to the players he was given. And he actually did it fairly well. And I was not of fan of hiring Stotts originally.

Adelman was good enough to win championships. And very well could have if weren't part of one of the most controversial reffing series in NBA history.

And I honestly think Dunleavy out coached Adelman when his Lakers upset the Blazers. Dunleavy was also part of a very controversial game in which Shaq has admitted he let the air out of the ball prior to the comeback.

I don't have to tell you how much easier long range 3s are to make with an underinflated basketball (Brian Shaw). Or how much shorter the rebounds come off (benefit to Shaq).

Not to mention that Sabas was shutting Shaq down until he got into foul trouble.

The Blazers were definitely good enough and well enough coached to win the championship that season.

But winning a title takes luck as well.

When you're playing the Lakers in the playoffs you have to overcome a lot of bad luck.
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You said a lot. Some of which I agree with. I'm not sure any of it provided a strong case for your original stance. We need a little more than the dreaded "eye-test" which we all seem to think our eye test is superior to everyone elses.
 
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