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Come on, it's absurd to say slavery has benefited every white person in the US. Lots of European immigrants came over here with only the clothes on their back and worked in slave like conditions in factories. Their was also a lot of racial tension between them. Same with Asian immigrants.
While I completely agree with your statement, I have Irish heritage and the difference is nobody can really look at me anymore and call me a dirty Irishman unless they see my last name or I tell them. But yeah, Irish people started with shit and were treated horribly here when they came over
 
Come on, it's absurd to say slavery has benefited every white person in the US. Lots of European immigrants came over here with only the clothes on their back and worked in slave like conditions in factories. Their was also a lot of racial tension between them. Same with Asian immigrants.

It's never a slave like condition when you are being paid for your work. You are never going to get it nor care so I'm done conversing with you now.
 
While I completely agree with your statement, I have Irish heritage and the difference is nobody can really look at me anymore and call me a dirty Irishman unless they see my last name or I tell them. But yeah, Irish people started with shit and were treated horribly here when they came over

Yes but there's a reason why you're called White now right?
 
While I completely agree with your statement, I have Irish heritage and the difference is nobody can really look at me anymore and call me a dirty Irishman unless they see my last name or I tell them. But yeah, Irish people started with shit and were treated horribly here when they came over

It's true that you all were treated like shit. But you still were never slaves. You still were able to work and be paid for your work. You still were able to learn to read if you couldn't and go to school right? Why don't people get this???

Edit: my bad. I reread your post. You do get it.
 
Dviss, if your ancestors immigrated here post-slavery, then you're like a "white guy" for the purpose of this conversation.
 
It's never a slave like condition when you are being paid for your work. You are never going to get it nor care so I'm done conversing with you now.
True, and we have had this convo before, but they were indentured servants. Not allowed to eat or buy things from restaurants and stores. And the way the employers would get out of letting the servants go, was by raping the women and getting them pregnant. Then saying the offspring was now a servant for 18 years, so the mother would have to stay with her child and never actually be free
 
It's never a slave like condition when you are being paid for your work. You are never going to get it nor care so I'm done conversing with you now.
If you're working for barely earning enough for basic food and shelter vs working and given shelter and food then those two conditions are the same in that respect.
 
True, and we have had this convo before, but they were indentured servants. Not allowed to eat or buy things from restaurants and stores. And the way the employers would get out of letting the servants go, was by raping the women and getting them pregnant. Then saying the offspring was now a servant for 18 years, so the mother would have to stay with her child and never actually be free
Also, some workers were paid via credit in the company store...
 
It's never a slave like condition when you are being paid for your work. You are never going to get it nor care so I'm done conversing with you now.

Hilarious.

Found an old youtube of dviss1:

 
It's true that you all were treated like shit. But you still were never slaves. You still were able to work and be paid for your work. You still were able to learn to read if you couldn't and go to school right? Why don't people get this???

Edit: my bad. I reread your post. You do get it.

People get it, but it hasn't happened to anyone since before you were born so stop laying claim to someone else's torment.

You were never a slave. Nobody bought and sold you. Nobody ever made you work for free.

You were raised under Affirmative Action and have had more hand-ups than any other race in America. You live in the 3rd most liberal city in America.

If your life sucks, it's on you.
 
My dad's ancestors were forced to live on Spanish Missions later run by the Mexicans. During the gold rush they were enslaved to find gold, or just flat out killed to make room.
 
Racist shit right here. You don't know what the fuck his parents taught him but you will assume that because he's black. I'm officially done with this now...
You're the one who brought them up, claiming to know how they felt about using slavery as an excuse for your failures. That's why I said they should have taught him how to behave. They obviously did a shitty job of parenting. So maybe the cops were excessive to shoot him there, but as I said before, that does NOT only happen to blacks. And also, don't walk down the middle of the street with a knife....how about that?
 
My dad's ancestors were forced to live on Spanish Missions later run by the Mexicans. During the gold rush they were enslaved to find gold, or just flat out killed to make room.

I don't suppose any of your progenitors got 40 acres and mule. I know my Grand father didn't, hell of a worker though. You can see his work all over Clackamas county, stone bridges, stone guard fences, and stone work on buildings. Dad didn't leave much though, didn't have much time here. Although perhaps dviss benefited from his work.
 
Dviss, if your ancestors immigrated here post-slavery, then you're like a "white guy" for the purpose of this conversation.

I'm a son of slaves. My ancestors were owned in Kentucky by a man named Durett White. I dropped that slave name in 2006 before my son was born. Now stop posting drivel like this. It makes you sound stupid.
 
People get it, but it hasn't happened to anyone since before you were born so stop laying claim to someone else's torment.

You were never a slave. Nobody bought and sold you. Nobody ever made you work for free.

You were raised under Affirmative Action and have had more hand-ups than any other race in America. You live in the 3rd most liberal city in America.

If your life sucks, it's on you.

Affirmative action helps more white women than it does blacks. You don't be knowing what the fuck you're talking about man.
 
But the white guy who points a gun at the police and tell them "no you drop your fucking gun!!" was taken in alive and well... You're so full of shit...

Do you ever stop and take the time to rationalize your arguments? How do you so easily equate two events separated by time, place, people, and circumstances so that the outcome of one instance necessarily implies something at all about the other? Your logic here is extremely irrational.

Edit:

The idea that police violence against blacks is more pervasive per capita is the point I find worth examining. But to make this simply a black/white issue is to deny the existence of all other forms of police violence that occur against non-blacks. I've read countless stories of excessive force that results in death or serious injury to humans or to animals and quite often it's not a black person in the story. You seem quite willing to entertain the idea that all police violence is racially motivated. I think you are missing the general extent of the problem, to be honest, fit full of confirmation bias in place of objective analysis.
 
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Affirmative action helps more white women than it does blacks.

Ha! I expect that is true. I know when I was doing college recruiting, the guidelines were I could hire Blacks with a GPA of 3.2 or better, 3.7 or better for the white kids.
Geez, I needed about 100 and could hardly find any 3.7 GPAs, none that wanted to work for my company, but a bunch that would with 3.3, 3.4. Dang few Black kids with GPA of
3.2. As I recall maybe three but none that wanted a programmer or engineer job.
 
Do you ever stop and take the time to rationalize your arguments? How do you so easily equate two events separated by time, place, people, and circumstances so that the outcome of one instance necessarily implies something at all about the other? Your logic here is extremely irrational.

Okay let's talk about them both: one is a black kid who has a knife who is walking down the middle of the street and is moving away from police officers when he is murdered in front of God and everybody. He was shot 6 more times after he was lying on the ground gasping for air. Have you seen the video? Do you think that after he was lying on the ground he could have been taken into custody? This is after he was shot 10 times...

The other situation is a white man with a gun who robs a house, holds people at gunpoint, shoots at the house while running away, then is almost confronted by some construction workers who he shoots at 5 times. He then has a standoff with police officers pointing his firearm at them. When he is told to drop his gun he proceeds to tell the officers

"no, you drop your fucking guns!!"

After doing this, the man is taken into custody alive and well. This is after pointing his firearm at police officers and telling them to drop their weapons...
 
Okay let's talk about them both: one is a black kid who has a knife who is walking down the middle of the street and is moving away from police officers when he is murdered in front of God and everybody. He was shot 6 more times after he was lying on the ground gasping for air.

The other situation is a white man with a gun who robs a house, holds people at gunpoint, shoots at the house while running away, then is almost confronted by some construction workers who he shoots at 5 times. He then has a standoff with police officers pointing his firearm at them. When he is told to drop his gun he proceeds to tell the officers

"no, you drop your fucking guns!!"

After doing this, the man is taken into custody alive and well. This is after pointing his firearm at police officers and telling them to drop their weapons...

Geez, I hope you are smart enough to teach your son with more reason than you show here.

Dammit, that kid in chicago got his ass shot doing stuff he should not have been doing!!! You do not fuck around out in the street with weapons or you will attract the police. That's it. That is the message! Any other incident is not comparable or relevant as it was a different cop in a different place and perhaps handled far better.

Now I agree, the police tactics do need to be up graded. That kid in Chicago was no doubt out of his mind on something or other and the police need to drop this shit about insisting their
commands be obeyed. Expecting rational behavior from an irrational person is in it's self irrational. So are the many extra shots
 
Slavery has benefited every white person in this country–directly and personally. In a general analogy, if you run a series of foot races over 300 years but prevent 13 percent of the participants from learning how to run for 180 years and then give them concrete sneakers for another 80 years–but allow them "full" access for 40 years, it will take the 13 percent quite a few races to be competitive because the other 87 percent advanced their skills by practice and repetition.

Life is not a foot race, but it is a fact that the average white person would not economically benefit from switching places with an average black person (black households average one-tenth the household wealth of white households). If you believe all people are created equal, there has to be a reason for this–and there is: racism.

The first slaves were brought to this country in the 1600s. After slavery ended in 1865 (the Emancipation Proclamation did not free slaves in the North) and until the 1960s, we lived under laws that overtly discriminated against them. In 1960, most black folks could not vote and had practically no access to higher education. Although the Civil Rights and Voting Rights acts (1964 and 1965, respectively) addressed the legal issues, and legislation like the CRA opened banking to red-lined areas, programs to eliminate disparities have proved to not be adequate.

Before somebody e-mails me with the old canard of “Nobody in my family ever owned a slave,” I’d like to retire that excuse with a personal example: Generations ago, my ancestors fled the horrible conditions in their home countries to establish families in the United States. It was never much of a question as to whether or not we could pick wherever we wanted to live, have access to college or get a mortgage. If my family suffered under generations of knowing that those doors were closed, it would take generations more to overcome that lack of family know-how. In essence, my family zipped right past people whose families were here long before mine. I never even questioned that Rutgers would be open to accepting my application, that the Navy would send me to flight school or that McGraw-Hill or Time Warner would hire me–and that when I was there I would be in the vast majority (there were less than 3 percent people of color in both publications I worked for). I never doubted my ability to start a company and had plenty of friends to mentor me along the way.

If you go back to people being created equally, it is just math that a percentage of our country’s greatest minds were eliminated from the competition simply by fact of skin color, and by extension their families were denied the head-start of their accomplishments. Every white person benefits from this–even people who arrived to the United States yesterday.

Unfortunately, this has hurt our country dramatically. If you caught black households up to white household wealth, it would be the equivalent of injecting the entire GDP of Japan into our economy. Who would benefit? Mostly white people, as the majority would manufacture the goods and services purchased with the “new” wealth.


Ya know, America is so much younger in terms of being in the game of slavery, yet we get a ton more heat about the issue, even more so after we eliminated it.

1. Wonder how black people of America feel about other countries where slavery was around much longer, or is still around.
2. Wonder how black people feel about black slave owners.
3. Wonder why if black people are so fed up with white people in America that they just don't leave this country and move somewhere else?
4. How much reparations do white people need to pay to silence the black people?
 
I'm a son of slaves. My ancestors were owned in Kentucky by a man named Durett White. I dropped that slave name in 2006 before my son was born. Now stop posting drivel like this. It makes you sound stupid.

No, you are not the son of slaves. Your parents would be roughly my age, and I was born roughly 90 years after slavery was outlawed in America. Nobody you ever knew in your entire life ever lived as a slave in America.
 
No, you are not the son of slaves. Your parents would be roughly my age, and I was born roughly 90 years after slavery was outlawed in America. Nobody you ever knew in your entire life ever lived as a slave in America.

So, do you go to the Sons and Daughters of Oregon Pioneers or the DAR and say "neener, you're not a REAL son of a pioneer! Nobody in your entire life was ever a pioneer in Oregon!"
 
Affirmative action helps more white women than it does blacks. You don't be knowing what the fuck you're talking about man.

Now you're just throwing shit at the wall to see if it sticks.

Having worked for the Feds for nearly 2 decades, I have an intricate knowledge of how AA works and who it benefits by discriminating on a massive scale against tens of millions of white applicants and employees, and doubly against white males.

To simplify, it's a points system.

White male = 0
white female = 1
non-white male = 1
non-white female = 2


As a rule, black women will be hired over anyone else, even if they have to be sent to school at taxpayer cost to train them for the job that they have no qualifications for even though many qualified white applicants are available. They are frequently promoted under the same conditions. Agencies receive budget "rewards" for attaining assigned AA hiring goals and personnel are often fired for not attaining AA goals.
 
Now you're just throwing shit at the wall to see if it sticks.

Having worked for the Feds for nearly 2 decades, I have an intricate knowledge of how AA works and who it benefits by discriminating on a massive scale against tens of millions of white applicants and employees, and doubly against white males.

To simplify, it's a points system.

White male = 0
white female = 1
non-white male = 1
non-white female = 2


As a rule, black women will be hired over anyone else, even if they have to be sent to school at taxpayer cost to train them for the job that they have no qualifications for even though many qualified white applicants are available. They are frequently promoted under the same conditions. Agencies receive budget "rewards" for attaining assigned AA hiring goals and personnel are often fired for not attaining AA goals.
It's actually very true. Maris is right on this one. Went to a diversity conference and people from huge businesses talked about how they give bonuses to managers that hire and maintain a diverse workforce. So a lot of times they will hire a lesser qualified candidate if they are a minority because it gets them into bonus territory
 

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