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I think Hassan would be visiting one of our fine establishments.


or maybe Darcell's:
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yeah, it's a decent article

one thing I'd dispute:

"Blazers president of basketball operations Neil Olshey took an enormous gamble Monday, agreeing to acquire disgruntled center Hassan Whiteside from the Miami Heat as part of a four-team trade that will send Meyers Leonard to South Beach and Maurice Harkless to the Los Angeles Clippers."

am I the only one who thinks this was a fairly minor gamble? Low risk/high reward?

expiring contracts exchanged in a 1 year rental format. Mo and Meyers don't represent much in terms of cost and Blazers get a player in a position of need who has played at high levels in the past

sure, Whiteside could end up being an ass, but Portland can solve that quickly. This seems a lot more like nothing-ventured-nothing-gained than an "enormous gamble"
You are not the only one.
 
I did a statistical comparison of Whiteside's rebounding marks compared to all time Blazer marks...

defensive rebound rate:

Hassan Whiteside 2017-18 - 36.6
Hassan Whiteside 2018-19 - 35.6
Hassan Whiteside 2016-17 - 35.3

Marcus Camby 2010-11 - 35.2
Hassan Whiteside 2014-15 - 34.7
Bill Walton 1977-78 - 34.2
Marcus Camby 2011-12 - 33.2
Joel Przybilla 2008-09 - 33.1
Bill Walton 1975-76 - 32.4
Bill Walton 1976-77 - 32.3

and for offensive rebound rate:

Hassan Whiteside 2018-19 - 16.3
Greg Oden 2008-09 - 15.7
Hassan Whiteside 2014-15 - 15.6
Chris Dudley 1994-95 15.6
Hassan Whiteside 2011-12 - 15.4
Zach Randolph 2001-02 - 15.1
Ed Davis 2015-16 - 14.4
Hassan Whiteside 2017-18 - 14.3
Jermaine O'Neal 1999-00 - 14.0
Marcus Camby 2010-11 - 13.8

and, total rebound rate:

Hassan Whiteside 2018-19 - 25.9
Hassan Whiteside 2014-15 - 25.4
Hassan Whiteside 2017-18 - 25.4

Marcus Camby 2010-11 - 24.1
Hassan Whiteside 2016-17 - 24.0
Marcus Camby 2011-12 - 23.1
Joel Przybilla 2008-09 - 22.8
Ed Davis 2017-18 - 21.3
Chris Dudley 1995-96 - 21.3
Bill Walton 1976-77 - 21.2
Joel Przybilla 2007-08 - 21.0

and then, I did a search of NBA players who have played at least 340 games and ranked by career:

total rebound rate:


1 Hassan Whiteside - 24.5%
2 Andre Drummond - 24.4%
3 Dennis Rodman - 23.4%
4 Reggie Evans - 21.9%
5 DeAndre Jordan - 21.6%

defensive rebound rate:

1 Hassan Whiteside - 34.6%
2 Andre Drummond - 32.8%
3 Dick Cunningham - 30.8%
4 Bill Walton - 30.2%
5 Swen Nater - 30.1%

blocked shot rate:

1 Manute Bol - 10.2%
2 Jim McIlvaine - 8.8%
3 Shawn Bradley -7.8%
4 Hassan Whiteside - 7.3%
5 Theo Ratliff - 7.2%

he's also 12th all time in offensive rebound rate

seems pretty clear that a motivated Whiteside will be the best glass cleaner Portland has had
 
Here's another guy that Whiteside needs to prove wrong. I do hope that at a minimum Blazer coaches and GM sit down with him and ask can you tell us what went wrong in Miami and is there anything you could have done to make it better?
I guess you have to wonder why the writer doesn't at least point out some issues with Leonard. And wonder how bad Harkless was that Miami had to give a pick to get rid of him.
"There have been a handful of compelling candidates here, but my worst deal winner goes to the entire Blazers offseason. Keeping Al-Farouq Aminu was always going to be difficult, so maybe they get a pass on that one. Likewise, Kent Bazemore offers more shooting than Evan Turner, so sure, they can get the benefit of the doubt on that trade as well. But why did Portland trade for Hassan Whiteside? Were Heat games blacked out in Portland over the past few years? The Nurkic injury forced Portland’s hand to some degree, but Whiteside is uncomfortable in space on offense, which means it’s unlikely he’ll be unlocking Lillard and McCollum the same way Nurkic did. He’s also spacy as a defender, and his Heat teams were generally better when he was on the bench."
I think the writer's main issue was that he thought Portland had to do more: "The Whiteside deal could work fine, but to me it signifies a front office that has run out ideas as it reshuffles the deck a year after being swept out of the conference finals. There were other teams that made questionable deals (Charlotte, Washington, Phoenix, etc) but not many that did so with a potential title shot on the line. All of the moves in Portland were lateral at best, and altogether, this is more likely a step back."

https://www.si.com/nba/2019/07/05/n...vin-durant-brooklyn-nets-best-worst-contracts
 
This is a guy that did not improve whatsover after getting his money. I hate dudes like that.

I really hope he buys in-- can't understand dudes who have motivation issues when they've come up from nothing. As mentioned earlier, probably the best test for Dame/CJ's leadership so far.
 
This is a guy that did not improve whatsover after getting his money. I hate dudes like that.

I really hope he buys in-- can't understand dudes who have motivation issues when they've come up from nothing. As mentioned earlier, probably the best test for Dame/CJ's leadership so far.

I can’t imagine Dame wasn’t in in this decision to some level. Pretty sure Dame saw what the team needed and is up to making it happen.
 
I can’t imagine Dame wasn’t in in this decision to some level. Pretty sure Dame saw what the team needed and is up to making it happen.


apparently, Dame was in the room when Portland was waiting on Kanter to decide on accepting the tax-MLE, so I'd assume he was closely 'in-the-know' when Portland pivoted to Hood for the MLE and traded for Whiteside
 
apparently, Dame was in the room when Portland was waiting on Kanter to decide on accepting the tax-MLE, so I'd assume he was closely 'in-the-know' when Portland pivoted to Hood for the MLE and traded for Whiteside
Apparently Kanter was our #1 target in free agency. Woulda always figured it to be Hood. Glad it worked out this way, and the Miami thing presented itself afterward once Dallas backed out.
 
You are not the only one.

Do you remember when we traded scrub Jermaine O'neal for all-star Dale Davis? I do. Nobody could believe Indiana would make such a trade (yes I'm sure there are you out there who knew better)
Now I'm not saying Meyers Leonard is going to blow up, or Whiteside is on a downward path, but sometimes a sure thing doesn't turn out that way.
 
I did a statistical comparison of Whiteside's rebounding marks compared to all time Blazer marks...

defensive rebound rate:

Hassan Whiteside 2017-18 - 36.6
Hassan Whiteside 2018-19 - 35.6
Hassan Whiteside 2016-17 - 35.3

Marcus Camby 2010-11 - 35.2
Hassan Whiteside 2014-15 - 34.7
Bill Walton 1977-78 - 34.2
Marcus Camby 2011-12 - 33.2
Joel Przybilla 2008-09 - 33.1
Bill Walton 1975-76 - 32.4
Bill Walton 1976-77 - 32.3

and for offensive rebound rate:

Hassan Whiteside 2018-19 - 16.3
Greg Oden 2008-09 - 15.7
Hassan Whiteside 2014-15 - 15.6
Chris Dudley 1994-95 15.6
Hassan Whiteside 2011-12 - 15.4
Zach Randolph 2001-02 - 15.1
Ed Davis 2015-16 - 14.4
Hassan Whiteside 2017-18 - 14.3
Jermaine O'Neal 1999-00 - 14.0
Marcus Camby 2010-11 - 13.8

and, total rebound rate:

Hassan Whiteside 2018-19 - 25.9
Hassan Whiteside 2014-15 - 25.4
Hassan Whiteside 2017-18 - 25.4

Marcus Camby 2010-11 - 24.1
Hassan Whiteside 2016-17 - 24.0
Marcus Camby 2011-12 - 23.1
Joel Przybilla 2008-09 - 22.8
Ed Davis 2017-18 - 21.3
Chris Dudley 1995-96 - 21.3
Bill Walton 1976-77 - 21.2
Joel Przybilla 2007-08 - 21.0

and then, I did a search of NBA players who have played at least 340 games and ranked by career:

total rebound rate:


1 Hassan Whiteside - 24.5%
2 Andre Drummond - 24.4%
3 Dennis Rodman - 23.4%
4 Reggie Evans - 21.9%
5 DeAndre Jordan - 21.6%

defensive rebound rate:

1 Hassan Whiteside - 34.6%
2 Andre Drummond - 32.8%
3 Dick Cunningham - 30.8%
4 Bill Walton - 30.2%
5 Swen Nater - 30.1%

blocked shot rate:

1 Manute Bol - 10.2%
2 Jim McIlvaine - 8.8%
3 Shawn Bradley -7.8%
4 Hassan Whiteside - 7.3%
5 Theo Ratliff - 7.2%

he's also 12th all time in offensive rebound rate

seems pretty clear that a motivated Whiteside will be the best glass cleaner Portland has had

Nice Work! I've always said win the glass win the game.
 
Do you remember when we traded scrub Jermaine O'neal for all-star Dale Davis? I do. Nobody could believe Indiana would make such a trade (yes I'm sure there are you out there who knew better)
Now I'm not saying Meyers Leonard is going to blow up, or Whiteside is on a downward path, but sometimes a sure thing doesn't turn out that way.
I do remember. I railed against that trade. Also, I was feeling pretty hopeful Meyers would step up in a starting role this season. In the past I didn't want Whiteside at all. But I can see why they did it this season. We'll see. However Whiteside works out, I won't be surprised either way.
 
Blazers made it to the WCF. Then replaced half the team.

That's a bold strategy Cotton.

Let's see if it pays off.
 
I think Whiteside just got depressed in Miami the way he thought he was not get his just dues. I seen him in Highlights beginning his contract and up to last year. The effort wasn't there last year but he had some good games last year but he also stood and look alot when opposite going to the rim. Now he play good against us we couldn't keep off the offensive boards.
 
The whiteside press conf has to wait for Jimmy Butler announcement in MIA
 
Meyers is in Miami so I’m guessing whiteside is in or on his way to Portland
 
I honestly don't know how anyone can be unhappy with the Whiteside trade.

We dealt two underperforming guys on horrible contracts for a legit starting center to step in until Nurk comes back. I fail to see any downside whatsoever.

And Kanter is not a reason because if we had signed Kanter, we would not have Hood.

I would take Whiteside/Hood over Harkless/Leonard/Kanter.
 
I would take Whiteside/Hood over Harkless/Leonard/Kanter.

honestly, looking at those two sets of options, side by side, I'm not sure which is better generically. If Portland gets the best Whiteside and the best Hood, then yeah, those two, quite easily. I'm not sure how realistic it is to expect that.

but I do believe there comes a time when significant change is good for a team...for a core. Change of habits and patterns can create renewal. I think Portland was well past due for significant changes
 
People keep saying "if Hassan is motivated" but if we're lead to believe he wasn't last season in Miami, he was still pretty fucking good. That alone would be an upgrade to Enes Kanter to be honest. Hassan > Kanter. Our defense is going to be so much better.
 
This was on the Blazer's Facebook page. My goodness....some of those blocks he just grabs out of the air with one hand.


I'm pretty sure that the block vs the knicks at around 3:10 was a goal tend, :)
 

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