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According to Hoops Hype Stro has a player option for $6,200,000 next season, which he may or may not exercise if all he is going to be doing is sitting on the pine. Now assuming he doesnt exercise that option, due mainly to the fact in the depth chart he sits behind Boone, SWat, Curly and probably Diop now as well...

That gives us 45,590,000 of committed salaries for next year. Not much for a splash on a big name but still a reasonable amount of money to resign Diop, Krstic and Nachbar and maybe a shooter.

Now do we try and sign all three? If Armstrong is willing to play for the min will we sign him as insurance?

Given Krstic's injury woes his market value right now could be at its lowest ever. Is a 2 yr $10 mil a fair offer since it gives him a chance to earn more if he returns to his old self? If his agent has any brains he'll be looking for a short contract giving his client a closer window of oppotunity to get a bigger pay day. Maybe a 2 yr 10mil with a 3 yr player option of 5.8mil, covering his ass if he isnt the same old Krstic.

Nachbar has been inconsistant and very poor at times. He is currently on a cheap-as-chips $2.5 this year. Do we offer him a similar number?

Diop is a pretty talented shotblocker and is on a very cheap rate considering also. Is he more of a s&t candidate given we have Sean and Josh?

What do you think the top brass are leaning towards?
 
It's not even a conversation until the season is over and they see how Krstic rounds into shape. Everything depends on that. If he doesn't play well I can see the Nets offering him the qualifying offer and turn their attention to getting a scoring low post threat. Which means Diop is gone and could impact a Boki resigning. Nenad is the first domino.

Armstrong is done after this season.
 
The only person I see the team resigning is Krstic. I don't know how well regarded Diop is around the league. It all depends on how well he plays for the Nets the rest of the year. DA is probably gonna retire and the Nets will probably sign another 32+ years old pg.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Feb 20 2008, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's not even a conversation until the season is over and they see how Krstic rounds into shape. Everything depends on that. If he doesn't play well I can see the Nets offering him the qualifying offer and turn their attention to getting a scoring low post threat. Which means Diop is gone and could impact a Boki resigning. Nenad is the first domino.

Armstrong is done after this season.</div>

Good call. It is fun to speculate though...

Plus why is DA done? He still hustles like a mofo!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (downunderwonder @ Feb 20 2008, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>cmon, im itching for the 100 reasons why im wrong...</div>
Well your problem is you're posting at 5am. No one signs on the board until they get to work or wakes up sometime after 9am.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (razel231 @ Feb 20 2008, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (downunderwonder @ Feb 20 2008, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>cmon, im itching for the 100 reasons why im wrong...</div>
Well your problem is you're posting at 5am. No one signs on the board until they get to work or wakes up sometime after 9am.
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Im in Australia my man. It was 6pm where Im at... Wheres the downunder netsfan posse?
 
Krstic is basically the only one safe, we really can judge anything right now also cause we have to wait int ll after the draft.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (downunderwonder @ Feb 20 2008, 05:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>According to Hoops Hype Stro has a player option for $6,200,000 next season, which he may or may not exercise if all he is going to be doing is sitting on the pine. Now assuming he doesnt exercise that option, due mainly to the fact in the depth chart he sits behind Boone, SWat, Curly and probably Diop now as well...

That gives us 45,590,000 of committed salaries for next year. Not much for a splash on a big name but still a reasonable amount of money to resign Diop, Krstic and Nachbar and maybe a shooter.

Now do we try and sign all three? If Armstrong is willing to play for the min will we sign him as insurance?

Given Krstic's injury woes his market value right now could be at its lowest ever. Is a 2 yr $10 mil a fair offer since it gives him a chance to earn more if he returns to his old self? If his agent has any brains he'll be looking for a short contract giving his client a closer window of oppotunity to get a bigger pay day. Maybe a 2 yr 10mil with a 3 yr player option of 5.8mil, covering his ass if he isnt the same old Krstic.

Nachbar has been inconsistant and very poor at times. He is currently on a cheap-as-chips $2.5 this year. Do we offer him a similar number?

Diop is a pretty talented shotblocker and is on a very cheap rate considering also. Is he more of a s&t candidate given we have Sean and Josh?

What do you think the top brass are leaning towards?</div>
I think Stro showed enough in the Raptors game to merit being the 4th big off the bench right now...which is not bad considering we're limiting Nenad to under 20 mins meaning there is 68 minutes to go between the other 3 bigs (Josh, Sean and Stro) given how Sean is prone to foul trouble I'd say its feasible that Stro gets 20+ a night from here on out...

As for Krstic's contract...given what other players are making Im think 2 years 15 million with an option for a third year at 10 million...if he returns to form pre injury its a steal...if he continues to get around 8 and 8 then its on par with the rest of the league and we let him go in 2 seasons...
 
Unless we give Boki a really small contract, I don't think we should re-sign him. He was supposed to be a great off-the-bench shooter for us this season, but he has been very inconsistent. The last few games he has showed some promise, but where was he the first half of the season?

Like the members above me mentioned, Krstic is the only safe. He will be much cheaper this offseason because of the injury he sustained earlier. The question is, can he get back to top form?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Feb 20 2008, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Unless we give Boki a really small contract, I don't think we should re-sign him. He was supposed to be a great off-the-bench shooter for us this season, but he has been very inconsistent. The last few games he has showed some promise, but where was he the first half of the season?

Like the members above me mentioned, Krstic is the only safe. He will be much cheaper this offseason because of the injury he sustained earlier. The question is, can he get back to top form?</div>
If we don't trade him for Mike Miller than it's imperative that we resign him...he's our only consistent shooter and I've actually enjoyed watching him play lately...he's an excellent bench player...maybe not a sixth man but definately a solid rotation...if we can keep him for years at like 17mill or 4 for 22 mill he'd be worth it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Feb 20 2008, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Feb 20 2008, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Unless we give Boki a really small contract, I don't think we should re-sign him. He was supposed to be a great off-the-bench shooter for us this season, but he has been very inconsistent. The last few games he has showed some promise, but where was he the first half of the season?

Like the members above me mentioned, Krstic is the only safe. He will be much cheaper this offseason because of the injury he sustained earlier. The question is, can he get back to top form?</div>
If we don't trade him for Mike Miller than it's imperative that we resign him...he's our only consistent shooter and I've actually enjoyed watching him play lately...he's an excellent bench player...maybe not a sixth man but definately a solid rotation...if we can keep him for years at like 17mill or 4 for 22 mill he'd be worth it.
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The problem that I mentioned is he only started to show sparks a couple of weeks ago. He may not be a sixth man but you can't have him play well for only a portion of the season. What's the point?
 
jloc857 - -

I agree with you on the players we need to resign....but your to generous with money.

Kristic wont get a deal in the 8-10 million dollar age no matter if its an option....

He is gonna probably get a 3 year 12-15M dollar deal......Thorn wont committ that much money to a player who hasnt shown he is fully recovered from a very serious injury.

and BOKI if we can give him a short contract that comes of the books quick....i mean dont forget BOKI is turning 29 soon....giving 4 years is wayyyy to much.....i say boki at 2 years 7 million and 3rd year team option at 4.5M making the contract 3yr 11.5 million
 
i dont think they resign boki, he's been a huge bust this year and is seen as a one year wonder, teams may be paying attention to him now but from what i've seen, he's missing wide open jumpers. im assuming we draft a swingman in the draft, sux that this draft is so big man and guard heavy
 
Jizzy with another enlightening comment

"sux that this drfat is so big man and guard heavy"
 
No that is not what I'm saying. You are saying the whole draft in guards and bigmen is top heavy.. Thats essentially everyone in the draft. Thanks for contributing a lot to this board again.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Boki3 @ Feb 20 2008, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No that is not what I'm saying. You are saying the whole draft in guards and bigmen is top heavy.. Thats essentially everyone in the draft. Thanks for contributing a lot to this board again.</div>


relax.

all he's saying is we need a swingman and the draft is strong in guards and big men.
 
Krstic 3 years 24 million will be the tops he gets, he's still young enough to prove his worth. Milicic got 3 years 21 million. Expect Krstic to surpass that contract, but not by much. I think he may get a 4th year offer from the Nets, but I think Krstic will expect to earn another contract, a bigger contract after this one.

Diop boy very inconsistent player time, 3 years 16 million. He should get more on the open market, but I can't see with Krstic, how the nets can give more. Diop is gone after this year.

DA, probably will retire after this season.

Boki, this is a hard one. As a shooter, he should get decent offers, 2 years 8 million should be all he gets from us, not very consistent.
 
i don't get why everyone is assuming stro will be behind diop in the line for playing time.. what does diop do better than stro other than be big? the only reason i can see to play diop over stro is if the other team has a gigantic center, like shaq or eddy curry, who he might be able to do a better job against defensivly.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Feb 20 2008, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Diop is far superior to Stro at defense and rebounding.</div>

and stro is far superior at everything else.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (5WAT-51 @ Feb 20 2008, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>jloc857 - -

I agree with you on the players we need to resign....but your to generous with money.

Kristic wont get a deal in the 8-10 million dollar age no matter if its an option....

He is gonna probably get a 3 year 12-15M dollar deal......Thorn wont committ that much money to a player who hasnt shown he is fully recovered from a very serious injury.

and BOKI if we can give him a short contract that comes of the books quick....i mean dont forget BOKI is turning 29 soon....giving 4 years is wayyyy to much.....i say boki at 2 years 7 million and 3rd year team option at 4.5M making the contract 3yr 11.5 million</div>
Nazr Mohammed makes 6 million a year
Drew Gooden makes 7 million a year
Nene makes 10 million a year
Anthony McDyess makes 6.5 million a year
Troy Murphy makes 10 million a year
Dan Gadzuric makes almost 7 million a year
Raef Lafrentz makes 12 million a year

Mikki Moore signed for 3 years 18 million...
if you don't think Nenad is getting more than that your crazy...

3 years at 12 million?

Sorry dude...maybe 10 years ago but not in today's NBA...where players sign for the full MLE and don't even play...

Nenad bare minimum is 3 years 21 million...

As for Boki...he's 27...turns 28 in JULY...not young but not exactly an old timer...a 4 year contract would mean he would be done at 32...not to bad a hit really. It's funny cause 5 years ago role players were playing into there late 30s but everyone wants to forget about that now because of fascination with youth...

22 million over 4 years is 5.5 million a year which is less than the MLE...you want argue 4 years at 18? fine...but people need to stop thinking that anyone that doesn't start should be make 3 or 4 million a year...cause that's not the case...rotation players IE your top 9 players should be making over 4 million dollars a year...people who don't see the court are the guys who make anywhere between 750K and 2 million a year.

That's the financial trend in the NBA...deal with it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (StroShow4 @ Feb 20 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Feb 20 2008, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Diop is far superior to Stro at defense and rebounding.</div>

and stro is far superior at everything else.
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Yes, Stro is far superior at pouting, missing assignments and making really dumb plays
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (StroShow4 @ Feb 20 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Feb 20 2008, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Diop is far superior to Stro at defense and rebounding.</div>

and stro is far superior at everything else.
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Frank loves the superior defensive player. Not a matter of favoritism on this forum, or anything like that, it's just how it is, and what we're used to...


Also, I believe we'll re-sign Krstic and Diop, let Armstrong go (because he deserves better), and let Boki go because he sucks.

I think we'll go for swingmen in the draft. If possible. Hopefully, we'll pick up on a steal. Ya never know!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Feb 20 2008, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Stro isn't even superior to him in any other way, except high-flying dunks.</div>

are shooting, scoring, and passing no longer a part of the game of basketball?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Feb 20 2008, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (5WAT-51 @ Feb 20 2008, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>jloc857 - -

I agree with you on the players we need to resign....but your to generous with money.

Kristic wont get a deal in the 8-10 million dollar age no matter if its an option....

He is gonna probably get a 3 year 12-15M dollar deal......Thorn wont committ that much money to a player who hasnt shown he is fully recovered from a very serious injury.

and BOKI if we can give him a short contract that comes of the books quick....i mean dont forget BOKI is turning 29 soon....giving 4 years is wayyyy to much.....i say boki at 2 years 7 million and 3rd year team option at 4.5M making the contract 3yr 11.5 million</div>
Nazr Mohammed makes 6 million a year
Drew Gooden makes 7 million a year
Nene makes 10 million a year
Anthony McDyess makes 6.5 million a year
Troy Murphy makes 10 million a year
Dan Gadzuric makes almost 7 million a year
Raef Lafrentz makes 12 million a year

Mikki Moore signed for 3 years 18 million...
if you don't think Nenad is getting more than that your crazy...

3 years at 12 million?

Sorry dude...maybe 10 years ago but not in today's NBA...where players sign for the full MLE and don't even play...

Nenad bare minimum is 3 years 21 million...

As for Boki...he's 27...turns 28 in JULY...not young but not exactly an old timer...a 4 year contract would mean he would be done at 32...not to bad a hit really. It's funny cause 5 years ago role players were playing into there late 30s but everyone wants to forget about that now because of fascination with youth...

22 million over 4 years is 5.5 million a year which is less than the MLE...you want argue 4 years at 18? fine...but people need to stop thinking that anyone that doesn't start should be make 3 or 4 million a year...cause that's not the case...rotation players IE your top 9 players should be making over 4 million dollars a year...people who don't see the court are the guys who make anywhere between 750K and 2 million a year.

That's the financial trend in the NBA...deal with it.
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Listen im not arguing with you about anything....but i think paying kristic at 3 years 24M - 30M is much more then i think we should spend. Don't get me wrong.....im all for Kristic to be in a Nets uniform.....maybe he should sign for the qualifying offer...for one year to prove he is healthy and can return to old form before committing such salary to him....i kno i suggested 3yrs 12-15 M for kristic....but if they give him a short contract i would be okay at 3yrs 18M....

the examples you threw out

Nazr Mohammed makes 6 million a year - was signed in desperation by detroit because they lost Wallace.
only makes 5.6M this year

Drew Gooden makes 7 million a year - in the past 5 years only missed 8 games and is a consistent 11pts 8rbs a night...he only makes 6.4M this year and 7.1M next year

Nene makes 10 million a year...Nene makes 8.8M this year and his contract only hits 10M in 2009/2010
was given this contract after a season coming of his injury and avg 12 and 7 at 24 years old.

Anthony McDyess makes 6.5 million a year - deserves his money for his role

Troy Murphy makes 10 million a year - only makes 9.2M this year and if i remember correctly a 15 and 10 player with potential when he got his contract..

Dan Gadzuric makes almost 7 million a year - only makes 5.4M this year only makes 7.2M in his final year of contract which is 2010/2011


Raef Lafrentz makes 12 million a year - In his old days was a 14 and 10 guy who blocked 2 shots a game....injuries took over....but he got his contract way before kristic was in the league

Mikki Moore signed for 3 years 18 million.. who knos why the kings gave him this money....he is only worth i thought 2yrs 8 mill and a 3rd year option

I was wrong about Boki's age but still giving him a 4 year deal at what you said 22M...to a inconsistent foward that can be easily replaced is nuts.....if he wants to stay....3yr deal for 12-13M is tops for him....that gives him a 1.5M raise for 3yrs.....
 
Nenad krstic averaged 13.5 and 6.5 in 05-06
in 06-07 he averaged 16.4 and 6.8

over the last 5 games he's averaged 5.4 and 6.2...
I think it's reasonable to believe he'll kick it up to 9 and 7 by the end of the season...
come contract time he'll be judged from pre injury form and from February and beyond...

The deal I proposed was two years at 7.5 each with a team option for a 3rd at 10 mil...basically making it 25 million max...that last 10 million represents money he either earns by averaging 15 and 10 + by that time or we send him packing...it's an incentive package.

As for Nachbar...his contract was based off of mins he never got...he's averaging 10pts a game as a bench player, and actually contributes defensively...personally 4.5.-5.5 million is fair for him...

If Brian Scalbrine makes 3 million a year in the NBA than Boki Nachbar should get around 5 million...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Feb 20 2008, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Brian Scalbrine makes 3 million a year in the NBA than Boki Nachbar should get around 5 million...</div>

Remember he is overpaid...
 
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