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Wizard Mentor said:
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This picture means: Olshey lacks the talent to find and trade for underrated young players, so we might as well consider only old retreads.
 
Gronk Brady said:
Stop with Courtney Lee already! WTF is wrong with you... if you want to try to make Dame and CJ work, the TPE is your one shot... and you want to use it on a 33 year old journeyman to play backup SG?! Come on man! Do you ever want this team to succeed?!
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Well you aren’t really going to have a team send you a good player just for TPE so all you can do is find a team that want to shed salary. New York aren’t competing for anything but could do with more cap space as they are always an interesting spot in free agency.

Outside of that you might get MKG etc. for TPE. That’s the level of player that is available.

You might get a pick back in the best case scenario. Can you trade a player or pick along with TPE to match salaries?
 
Gronk Brady said:
No... I’m saying if the best we can do with the TPE, our only tool to get better if keeping the core, is a 33 year old journeyman who averaged 12 points in 30 min on a 29 win team, then we should blow it up... and Scalma said Lee is the best we can do with TPE
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Its not our only tool to get better. We have a draft pick. We have all our future draft picks. We have decent young pieces. We have the MLE. We have players that are still developing and getting better. Most importantly, we have time.

Lee is a very good defender, who plays better off of someone who can attack, as he's a spot up shooter. Think of Crabbe if he could defend. That's not a bad player. But if thats not your cup of tea, we could use it to trade up in the draft.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
It turns an overpaid player that is languishing on the bench accomplishing nothing into a useful veteran 3&D guard, while preserving the TPE to potentially be used to bring in another useful piece.
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You don't harm the future to acquire someone like Courtney Lee. Meyers is irrelevant, we could acquire Lee without him in the deal. We could likely acquire him for cash. Therefore, moving down would be silly.
 
BonesJones said:
You don't harm the future to acquire someone like Courtney Lee. Meyers is irrelevant, we could acquire Lee without him in the deal. We could likely acquire him for cash. Therefore, moving down wpuld be silly.
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The indications Olshey has given are that he is attempting to bolster the team now, and that the pick and the TPE's are likely going to be used to acquire established veterans. Yes, Lee could likely be acquired for cash and the TPE, but I think the TPE is of significantly greater value to other teams than Meyers Leonard is. I don't think 12 spots is all that high a price to pay to turn a negative-value asset like Leonard into a positive-value one.
 
Scalma said:
I still think Denver with Faried/14 could be in play on draft night. We know Olshey and Connolly are tight and like dealing with each other, and outside of Dallas, we’re the only team that could take on Faried without sending back any salary on draft night.
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They really want to keep Barton, so I think they should be ready to deal.
 
Scalma said:
The assumption is he will use one or both of the TPEs. A pretty safe assumption given his recent comments.

So let’s hear some predictions. Let’s see if anyone gets it right.
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Not convinced we will use the TPE's to go further into the tax, is anyone we get really a difference maker worth tens of millions? I say more snake oil from the salesman
 
Scalma said:
I still think Denver with Faried/14 could be in play on draft night. We know Olshey and Connolly are tight and like dealing with each other, and outside of Dallas, we’re the only team that could take on Faried without sending back any salary on draft night.
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Why would anyone want Faried at this point? Five years ago, yes, but not now.
 
It seems like it might be a good idea to use (as Bones has suggested) in a two part trade. Like take Jeremy Lin off the Nets hands with the TPE and then trade Turner for DeMarre Carroll. They might think Turner would be a better fit with their team.
 
https://milehighsports.com/denvers-...ons-tim-connelly-could-use-stretch-provision/

Good article that explains Denver’s cap situation and why Faried/14 for the TPE is a realistic option.

Faried is the other player that could be stretched and waived. He is also the most interesting situation. Faried has $13,764,045 owed to him for the final year of his contract. If stretched, Faried’s cap hit against the Nuggets would be $4,588,015 each year for three years while also being waived allowing him to sign with another team. That would save Denver $9,176,030 in cap space this coming offseason, which — if the most expensive scenario plays out — would leave Denver just $1,318,165 into the luxury tax assuming that they draft a player in the first round. If Denver trades out of the first round entirely, the would be $1,551,118 under the luxury tax line.

Either option would help the Nuggets current financial landscape become more manageable. What really makes stretching and waiving a player so enticing is the potential to also use the 14th pick in the 2018 NBA Draft to trade the player who was not waived. If Arthur was stretched and Faried was packaged with the 14th pick, Denver could suddenly be $11,155,811 below the luxury tax line with money to spend. That would allow them to retain Barton and Craig as well as hold onto Chandler — who is an expiring contract — without going too far into the tax.
 
Scalma said:
https://milehighsports.com/denvers-...ons-tim-connelly-could-use-stretch-provision/

Good article that explains Denver’s cap situation and why Faried/14 for the TPE is a realistic option.

Faried is the other player that could be stretched and waived. He is also the most interesting situation. Faried has $13,764,045 owed to him for the final year of his contract. If stretched, Faried’s cap hit against the Nuggets would be $4,588,015 each year for three years while also being waived allowing him to sign with another team. That would save Denver $9,176,030 in cap space this coming offseason, which — if the most expensive scenario plays out — would leave Denver just $1,318,165 into the luxury tax assuming that they draft a player in the first round. If Denver trades out of the first round entirely, the would be $1,551,118 under the luxury tax line.

Either option would help the Nuggets current financial landscape become more manageable. What really makes stretching and waiving a player so enticing is the potential to also use the 14th pick in the 2018 NBA Draft to trade the player who was not waived. If Arthur was stretched and Faried was packaged with the 14th pick, Denver could suddenly be $11,155,811 below the luxury tax line with money to spend. That would allow them to retain Barton and Craig as well as hold onto Chandler — who is an expiring contract — without going too far into the tax.
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The interesting Part for me is, there was an article about nikola jokic and his agent told the Nuggets Front Office he want's his Max Contract this offseason. What makes it difficult for Denver because jokic is restricted free agent this Season and after the 18/19 Season he is Unrestricted free agent, jokic was a 2nd round pick in 2015 and that means he could leave Next year in free agency, Maybe that's a reason Why Denver want to dump faried's Contract so badly
 
Scalma said:
https://milehighsports.com/denvers-...ons-tim-connelly-could-use-stretch-provision/

Good article that explains Denver’s cap situation and why Faried/14 for the TPE is a realistic option.

Faried is the other player that could be stretched and waived. He is also the most interesting situation. Faried has $13,764,045 owed to him for the final year of his contract. If stretched, Faried’s cap hit against the Nuggets would be $4,588,015 each year for three years while also being waived allowing him to sign with another team. That would save Denver $9,176,030 in cap space this coming offseason, which — if the most expensive scenario plays out — would leave Denver just $1,318,165 into the luxury tax assuming that they draft a player in the first round. If Denver trades out of the first round entirely, the would be $1,551,118 under the luxury tax line.

Either option would help the Nuggets current financial landscape become more manageable. What really makes stretching and waiving a player so enticing is the potential to also use the 14th pick in the 2018 NBA Draft to trade the player who was not waived. If Arthur was stretched and Faried was packaged with the 14th pick, Denver could suddenly be $11,155,811 below the luxury tax line with money to spend. That would allow them to retain Barton and Craig as well as hold onto Chandler — who is an expiring contract — without going too far into the tax.
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The Nuggets would be able to retain me...I mean my cousin
 
Scalma said:
The cost of an asset. No different than when Portland traded with Cleveland. You think they did that because they wanted Varajeo?
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You want to waive and stretch yet another player?
 
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