Who is the ideal fit next to Dame at SG?

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Who should start next to Dame?

  • Simons

    Votes: 4 11.1%
  • Hart

    Votes: 15 41.7%
  • Sharpe

    Votes: 3 8.3%
  • Winslow

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lavine

    Votes: 1 2.8%
  • DeRozen

    Votes: 3 8.3%
  • Hield

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Caruso

    Votes: 3 8.3%
  • Lonzo Ball

    Votes: 3 8.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 9 25.0%

  • Total voters
    36

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I’m seeing people saying Simons isn’t any better fi than CJ. So if not, who is? I threw in some potentially available players.
 
For me it's a bigger shooting guard 6'5" or taller that can defend and shoot the three. You find that guy and he's ideal for Dame in the back court.

There are a lot of guys in the league that fit that description but Ant isn't one of them. Hart could be but then we'd need a different SF or a difference maker at C.
 
For me it's a bigger shooting guard 6'5" or taller that can defend and shoot the three. You find that guy and he's ideal for Dame in the back court.

There are a lot of guys in the league that fit that description but Ant isn't one of them. Hart could be but then we'd need a different SF or a difference maker at C.

We just looking for a name lol
 
We just looking for a name lol
Hart works but then we need a bigger SF and for me Nurk isn't the best fit in Chauncey's system at C. So I think there needs to be multiple trades but Cronin has shown that he's up for doing that.
 
For me it's a bigger shooting guard 6'5" or taller that can defend and shoot the three. You find that guy and he's ideal for Dame in the back court.

There are a lot of guys in the league that fit that description but Ant isn't one of them. Hart could be but then we'd need a different SF or a difference maker at C.
So Zach LaVine then?
 
Middleton. Not available but that would be ideal.

Of the listed options, DeRozan imo
 
For me it's a bigger shooting guard 6'5" or taller that can defend and shoot the three. You find that guy and he's ideal for Dame in the back court.

There are a lot of guys in the league that fit that description but Ant isn't one of them. Hart could be but then we'd need a different SF or a difference maker at C.
Dillion Brooks can both score and defend. He can swing the same way Hart can. If you had Payton, Hart & Brooks on this team along with Dame,Grant, & Nurk? There is enough scoring there to offset Simons but you improve your D big time, which is imo, the number one priority.
 
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I think you could go either LaVine or DeRozan. I wouldn’t give Sharpe for either though. I think the Blazers (Just like the Dame & CJ backcourt) will be gun shy and just hold onto the backcourt that they have, just to find out it’s not going to work as well as they had hoped.
 
Whoever voted for Lonzo Ball should be tarred and feathered.

(It was me, I DID IT!!!)

Klay?
 
are we talking realistic options? If not than Jalen Brown & Jimmy Butler. I'm also not sure that it has to be a prototype 6'5 & over SG. Somebody like JRue Holiday or Tyrese Haliburton or Tyler Herro would be really good partners for Dame

but they aren't realistic. And while it may be more realistic to move Simons to 6th man and Hart to SG, that's unlikely to make the Blazers significantly better. Simons already spends 12 or 13 minutes a game playing without Dame.

so, to be realistic, it's almost certain that trading Simons, a guard, for a better guard is very unlikely. Much better chance of trading him for a better fit at one of the forward spots. I'm not as big a fan of Anunoby as many are, but I'd think a lineup of Dame-Hart-OG-Grant-Nurkic would be better than what Portland currently has. Not sure how realistic an Ant for OG trade is, probably not very, but that might be a starting point to work down from
 
You can only hide one guard on defense....I voted Josh Hart next to Dame. Transition buckets, second chance pts...corner threes and awesome defense at the 1 guard.
 
I voted other. And the other is "a bench that doesn't suck ass".
 
Whoever voted for Lonzo Ball should be tarred and feathered.

(It was me, I DID IT!!!)
If not for his very worrisome knee, he'd be sort of ideal. A better passer and defender than Dame, SG size, and vastly improved 3-point shooting. But if not for his very worrisome knee, he wouldn't be considered available, so...
 
I'm sort of a fan of Caruso, too. DeRozan is too old and too ball-dominant, so I'll put him third out of the Bulls players, even though he's a season away from greatness. I would put Lavine infinity of the Bulls players, because he's a luh-HOO-zer AND his knees are shot.
 
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Go out and look at the 2023 RFA/UFA & PO’s at guard and forward.
 
I'm sort of a fan of Caruso, too. DeRozan is too old and too ball-dominant, so I'll put him third out of the Bulls players, even though he's a season away from greatness.
DeRozan is only one year older than Dame.
 
Jaylin Brownwould be perfect. He might be my favorite player. Does everything well, has good size and a killer instinct. I think he’s just as important as Tatum to that team.

But acquiring him is a pipe dream
 
Criteria:

Must be at least 6'4" and preferably SOLID, with long arms.
Must be a very good defender, both one-on-one and team (high BBIQ and awareness)
Preferably has PG-level court awareness and passing skills so Dame can play off-ball.
Must be a very good three-point shooter for when Dame penetrates and kicks (and so offenses don't swarm Dame)
Must be very unselfish, quick to move/push the ball, much more catch-and-shoot than one-on-one

Josh Hart is a poor man's version of this. A healthy Lonzo Ball has just about everything except the solid part. But does a healthy Lonzo Ball exist? And if he did, why would Chicago trade him, given that they were great with him and just look sad without him?

Could Shaedon Sharp become this? Impossible to know. Right now he's completely clueless at team defense and the other team always goes on a massive run when he checks in. Also, I just don't see the PG skills, like AT ALL.
 
Could Shaedon Sharp become this? Impossible to know. Right now he's completely clueless at team defense and the other team always goes on a massive run when he checks in. Also, I just don't see the PG skills, like AT ALL.

PG? Maybe you missed the thread title. No surprise he's clueless at NBA team defense but HE CAN stay in front of most players which is half the battle.
 
Caruso. Period. One of the more underrated guys in the league IMO. Can match up with 1 thru 3 giving them even more flexibility on D. Good ballhander, great passer and good shooter. Another Hart type that checks a lot of boxes without being a heavy scorer. Tough, intelligent, unselfish, experienced but not old. I've wanted him since he was a Laker.
 
Caruso. Period. One of the more underrated guys in the league IMO. Can match up with 1 thru 3 giving them even more flexibility on D. Good ballhander, great passer and good shooter. Another Hart type that checks a lot of boxes without being a heavy scorer. Tough, intelligent, unselfish, experienced but not old. I've wanted him since he was a Laker.
Only downside: his points per 48 are in the single digits.
 
Caruso. Period. One of the more underrated guys in the league IMO. Can match up with 1 thru 3 giving them even more flexibility on D. Good ballhander, great passer and good shooter. Another Hart type that checks a lot of boxes without being a heavy scorer. Tough, intelligent, unselfish, experienced but not old. I've wanted him since he was a Laker.
Almost sounds like another Steve Blake.
 
everyone's description here sounds like they're talking about wes matthews.

we have a reasonable facsimile to wes on our roster: josh hart.
Wes was a poor man's Klay (or maybe Danny Green): great defense and could get piping hot from three, but very limited guard skills. Hart can play point in a pinch - Wes couldn't do that in his dreams.
 

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