Who Wins Tonight - Cleveland or Boston?

[Pinwheel1]

If I were James I would sign with Portland for 1 year. Get his ring and then go anywere he wants. Hell he makes so much money on endorsements he can play every year for the minimum.

 

[The Professional Fan]

Woah, Lebron just ripped off his jersey. Does he always do that before he reaches the locker room? Man, poor Cav fans......

 

[Mamba]

LeBitch is a quitter.

 

[Minstrel]

Wow. I've never seen a team lay down in the final minute of a game with so much riding on it ... Lebron is gone.

James honestly didn't seem that cut up when the buzzer sounded. I felt he checked out on his Cleveland career in game 5, and nothing has changed that opinion. It wasn't just bad games by him...it was mostly apathy/lethargy with only a few moments of clear intensity.

 

[The Professional Fan]

LeBitch is a quitter.

Yeah, I'm massively disappointed in him and that team. They feed off his energy. They quit because he quit. Very odd. He will get his money, but if my team was in the running for his services, I would remember what just transpired and it would give me pause.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

James honestly didn't seem that cut up when the buzzer sounded. I felt he checked out on his Cleveland career in game 5, and nothing has changed that opinion. It wasn't just bad games by him...it was mostly apathy/lethargy with only a few moments of clear intensity.

I'd have to agree with both of you; I've never seen such blatant quit on each other and a coach from any team as I did by the Cavs in those final 50 seconds. James just looked like he didn't really care despite the numbers - he just had no urgency. It was really shocking not see him really driving in the second half of game 5.

I just don't understand how you can quit like that when you don't even have a ring yet.

 

[huevonkiller]

Yeah, I'm massively disappointed in him and that team. They feed off his energy. They quit because he quit. Very odd. He will get his money, but if my team was in the running for his services, I would remember what just transpired and it would give me pause.

He quit because the game was over after the fourth quarter ends. Before that he played damn well considering the circumstances. Triple double and shut down Pierce.

 

[KingSpeed]

I'd have to agree with both of you; I've never seen such blatant quit on each other and a coach from any team as I did by the Cavs in those final 50 seconds. James just looked like he didn't really care despite the numbers - he just had no urgency. It was really shocking not see him really driving in the second half of game 5.

I just don't understand how you can quit like that when you don't even have a ring yet.

You obviously don't watch much basketball. Shit like that happens all the time. Remember when the Pistons got swept in 1991 and just walked off the court with the clock still running? Remember when there was still plenty of time for the Nets to win (02? 03?) and Scott just let the clock run? More recently, remember when the Lakers bent over and got fucked up the ass in 2008? The Lakers completely quit and let themselves get beat down by almost 40 points in the most important game of their season.

 

[44Thrilla]

I wonder how Henry Abbott feels about picking the Cavs in 4.

 

[huevonkiller]

You obviously don't watch much basketball. Shit like that happens all the time. Remember when the Pistons got swept in 1991 and just walked off the court with the clock still running? Remember when there was still plenty of time for the Nets to win (02? 03?) and Scott just let the clock run? More recently, remember when the Lakers bent over and got fucked up the ass in 2008? The Lakers completely quit and let themselves get beat down by almost 40 points.

Magic and Jordan quit on their coach.

 

[The Professional Fan]

He quit because the game was over after the fourth quarter ends. Before that he played damn well considering the circumstances. Triple double and shut down Pierce.

lol

 

[The Sebastian Express]

You obviously don't watch much basketball. Shit like that happens all the time. Remember when the Pistons got swept in 1991 and just walked off the court with the clock still running? Remember when there was still plenty of time for the Nets to win (02? 03?) and Scott just let the clock run? More recently, remember when the Lakers bent over and got fucked up the ass in 2008? The Lakers completely quit and let themselves get beat down by almost 40 points.

I was six in 1991, Eric. I do remember the Lakers quitting in 2008, but I feel the 40 point beat down and the quitting by the Cavs in the last 50 seconds was worse. I'm pretty Mike Brown was telling them to foul with 50 seconds left, and they just outright ignored him. That's insane.

 

[KingSpeed]

I was six in 1991, Eric. I do remember the Lakers quitting in 2008, but I feel the 40 point beat down and the quitting by the Cavs in the last 50 seconds was worse. I'm pretty Mike Brown was telling them to foul with 50 seconds left, and they just outright ignored him. That's insane.

It was worse with the Nets because Byron Scott didn't even tell his team to foul and they actually still had a legit chance to win the game. The team was looking for him to call it and he didn't. He just let it end.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

It was worse with the Nets because Byron Scott didn't even tell his team to foul and they actually still had a legit chance to win the game. The team was looking for him to call it and he didn't. He just let it end.

That's a big no no on Scott, then. No wonder he didn't really work out in New Orleans.

 

[Minstrel]

Magic and Jordan quit on their coach.

That's true. It got forgotten due to his overall brilliant career and personality, but in 1981, in the first round of the playoffs, in what turned out to be the clinching game, LA was down by 1 and coach Paul Westhead instructed Magic to get the ball into Abdul-Jabbar for the final shot. Magic blew off the instruction and took the shot himself...he missed and the defending champion Lakers were out in the first round. After the game, assistant coach Pat Riley said that Magic Johnson had suffered from "disease a moi"...disease of "me."

Johnson subsequently lobbied to have Westhead removed.

These things happen, even with the most storied players. This isn't exactly a shining moment for James, but he'll have many years to build a legend that will leave this as a little-remembered footnote (except in Cleveland).

 

[illmatic99]

Fuck all this talk about LBJ's free agency.

We just saw Shaq playing NBA basketball for the last time ever. I am certain that he's done. I'm also baffled that there is NO talk about this anywhere.

 

[illmatic99]

Yeah, I'm massively disappointed in him and that team. They feed off his energy. They quit because he quit. Very odd. He will get his money, but if my team was in the running for his services, I would remember what just transpired and it would give me pause.

27-19-10, yes 9 turnovers too, but he certainly didn't look like he quit. It looked like he was somewhat limited physically.

 

[ABM]

Fuck all this talk about LBJ's free agency.

We just saw Shaq playing NBA basketball for the last time ever. I am certain that he's done. I'm also baffled that there is NO talk about this anywhere.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/159373-Shaq-Should-Retire

I'm the same person you called crazy.

 

[Minstrel]

Fuck all this talk about LBJ's free agency.

We just saw Shaq playing NBA basketball for the last time ever. I am certain that he's done. I'm also baffled that there is NO talk about this anywhere.

If you're right, I'm personally pretty glad. Incredibly effective player in his prime, with the way the game was officiated, but a really crappy style of basketball, IMO. And his personal style and attitude (on the court) was annoying to me. I think he's a top-ten player of all-time but I won't be sad to see him go.

 

[illmatic99]

I'm the same person you called crazy.

I'm completely shocked.

 

[illmatic99]

If you're right, I'm personally pretty glad. Incredibly effective player in his prime, with the way the game was officiated, but a really crappy style of basketball, IMO. And his personal style and attitude (on the court) was annoying to me. I think he's a top-ten player of all-time but I won't be sad to see him go.

I'm not sad either, just surprised that we haven't heard anything at all from ESPN about it.

 

[huevonkiller]

He only got 19 rebounds? I expect at least 25 to show me he puts forth effort.

 

[crandc]

I think that game bears out the point that it is very hard to win a championship. There are a lot more "just missed" than titles, something we Blazers fans sure know. Everything has to fall right, the right mix of players, the right coach, just plain luck, and an indefinable something - I think best defined by Rudy Tomjanovich, the heart of a champion.

I think it's no accident that as the playoffs move along the Lakers and Celtics look stronger; they won the last 2 titles and have most of the same group. (This is regardless of what we think of those two teams.) I think that once a team gets over the hump, wins a title, they have the advantage because they KNOW they can do it. Others just HOPE.

It also blows the conspiracy buffs "NBA is fixed" bs. Last year at the beginning of the postseason, one sportswriter actually wrote that the whole playoffs were a waste of time, they should move directly into the Finals because "everyone" wants "Kobe" vs. "LeBron" (not Lakers vs. Cavaliers). Well, as we know, that did not happen. This year would be an even better story line, "Kobe" vs. "LeBron" and "Kobe" vs. "Shaq". Well, LeBron and Shaq are out.

And maybe, just maybe, we'll get luck and Kobe will be out too.

BTW, a post on the conservative web site redstate.com said conservatives should root for the Lakers. The poster described a passionate loathing for the Lakers that would do credit to a Blazers fan, but said they had to be supported because of "Los Suns", Steve Nash in particular, taking a stand against racism and scapegoating. Now that LA has joined the boycott...