Notice Who's The Biggest Problem??

[JDC]

Boring answer, but it's a combination of talent, management and coaching.

Team lacks shooting and decision making from it's ancillary pieces which is why sending doubles at Dame and CJ have worked so well, particularly in the playoffs. Dame and CJ aren't always the best decision makers versus pressure either.

Meyers and Evan Turner's contract hamstrung the team, but when you consider the market AND the available talent pool, it may be costing us 2-4 wins max.
Sure, having the full MLE would've helped, but I don't think we're a big enough draw for the type of guys that can make a big difference at that rate.

Another part of it is Dame and CJ are too good not to pay and hard to trade for better present value. Essentially, you're capping the potential of you're team if you hitch your franchise to them as you're top 2. This problem isn't unique, and it also doesn't mean you're destined to be in the middle forever. You just have to be near perfect from a draft, trade and roster construction perspective to overcome it. Olshey has had some clear hits, but also some big misses here which is why we are where we are. To be clear though, I don't think perfect equals championship contention. More like a consistent HCA type team.

As far as the playoffs go. Ten losses in a row sucks, but GS is really good and although there is no excuses for how the guys performed against the Pels, this team limped to the playoffs from both a health and confidence standpoint and ran into a bad matchup playing really good basketball. We all would've liked to see more fight from our guys, but we didn't and we're all left with a bad taste in our mouth. There's some positives that can come out of it though. Could force both staff and players to look more critically at things that need to be done to improve plus urge management to make SMART changes.

Where do we go from here? I don't know. I respect the arguments made for big changes, and a part of me would like to see it from a pure entertainment standpoint. It'd be fun to watch some new players and maybe a new coach who runs different stuff. Would it makes us any better? Who knows.

But another part of me wants to see what this group can achieve w/smart tweaks and further development. Some may say that'd be postponing the inevitable, but it's going to be a long time--if ever--that we see the next truly great Blazer team so I'm fine waiting a couple more years before pulling the plug on this thing.

 

[calvin natt]

Oh come on man. We are here to discuss the blazers in all aspects. Not just the ones you feel should be or shouldnt be discussed.

Thats fine if you dont want to discuss ideas, thoughts, rights, wrongs and how to improve this team, but some of us like to discuss the possible scenarios.
The coulda woulda shoulda’s.

You dont need to be condescending to those of us that do just because you dont. Just move on.

Why do you think everyone is condescending when they don’t agree with you? Do you read your own posts? Those of us who hold the opinion of “I’m not an NBA GM or coach or player so maybe I don’t know all the answers” are condescending but those who think they’ve got it all figured out aren’t? Huh?

 

[Lanny]

So similar to your small sample size of the 13 game win streak you use to declare the season a success... when the fact is we were 36-37 outside of that streak... a below .500 record in a 73 game sample size. The win streak is more of an outlier than playoff games you have time to plan for and adjust to

That's not my sample size and never was. Did I post that somewhere?

 

[Lanny]

I've studied stats and know a thing or two about them. Your small sample size is simply near meaningless. You've gotta come up with some other facts to examine rather then that flimsy excuse.

Let me add to my post that I'm not against examining whether Stotts should be retained or not. I'm just saying that we need other metrics besides an insignificant sample size.

 

[BonesJones]

Me.

 

[stampedehero]

In reality you can look at each of those on the list as a negative and a positive. It's not as simple as saying x is the problem. There is also a lot to like about this team as well but it appears many got butthurt over the way the season ended and now demand changes. Nobody liked the way the season ended but overreacting can be a more serious problem and can even lead to an even worse situation.

I agree. There is not "one" problem. A few things happened on the way to the playoffs. We starting losing games to teams we could have beat. That Texas road trip was a debacle. The Pelicans destroyed us inside and we had no clear answer for AD, Holliday and Rondo and to mention others. Dame had bad Karma in all four games. We constantly made mistakes on both sides of the court.
I admit, Stotts tried to stop the bleeding but could not.

 

[Strenuus]

Let me add to my post that I'm not against examining whether Stotts should be retained or not. I'm just saying that we need other metrics besides an insignificant sample size.

So when are we going to look at that inconsistent 69 games?

 

[Lanny]

So when are we going to look at that inconsistent 69 games?

What 69 games are you referring to?

 

[Phatguysrule]

Lol. Theres two problems. Stotts and olshey.

Theyve been a problem for years. Losing 10 straight playoffs games isnt an over-reaction, its a pattern.

6 of those losses were to the warriors... Who swept nearly everyone they played in that stretch. But that's what you get when you're the 8 seed who loses a starter (and probably should have missed the playoffs).

Then we drew our worst match up possible this year even though we had home court advantage. That's just bad luck.

 

[Phatguysrule]

So similar to your small sample size of the 13 game win streak you use to declare the season a success... when the fact is we were 36-37 outside of that streak... a below .500 record in a 73 game sample size. The win streak is more of an outlier than playoff games you have time to plan for and adjust to

Yeah but we were undefeated in the games we won...

 

[FlashWad]

I put a big share of the blame on Stotts/Neil but the Turner sighing looks worse and worse everyday.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Why do you think everyone is condescending when they don’t agree with you? Do you read your own posts? Those of us who hold the opinion of “I’m not an NBA GM or coach or player so maybe I don’t know all the answers” are condescending but those who think they’ve got it all figured out aren’t? Huh?

When did i say everyone? Cup has had some very condescending posts here, though has seemed to clean it up.
You were condescendig too so i could understand this post.
You weren't agreeing or disagreeing with anyone. You made a blind sarcastic statement making a jab at anyone who thinks the gm could have done differently. Did you read your own post i quoted? Jesus....

 

[Orion Bailey]

I do love how you never responded to my question as to why you are here though.....
Get the fuck out with The better than thou attituted. Lol

 

[joeBlazers]

Terry is the problem. But lets face it, coaching star players is really hard. Look at OKC coaches trying to fix Westbrook. I'm disappointed that our offense lacks creativity/execution. I'm tired of Damon/CJ hero ball, poor shot selections, ...
I wish CJ was Donavan Mitchell. Btw, how did we pass on this kid?

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I once worked the pole in prison......just once though.

I knew a guy who worked the handle on a toilet plunger.

 

[CupWizier]

When did i say everyone? Cup has had some very condescending posts here, though has seemed to clean it up.
You were condescendig too so i could understand this post.
You weren't agreeing or disagreeing with anyone. You made a blind sarcastic statement making a jab at anyone who thinks the gm could have done differently. Did you read your own post i quoted? Jesus....

I don't appreciate the back stabbing snide comment about me.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I don't appreciate the back stabbing snide comment about me.

Sorry if you feel it back stabbing and snide. Not sure how though, considering you yourself went and deleted a bunch of the posts i was refering to. I even said you seemed to have cleaned it up. Just debate without ridiculing the others opinion is all.
I lesrn things when discussions are like that.
Just keep it real man. No biggie Its all good.

 

[CupWizier]

Sorry if you feel it back stabbing and snide. Not sure how though, considering you yourself went and deleted a bunch of the posts i was refering to. I even said you seemed to have cleaned it up. Just debate without ridiculing the others opinion is all.
I lesrn things when discussions are like that.
Just keep it real man. No biggie Its all good.

I deleted my posts, not because I felt there was anything wrong, but because Sly asked posters to stop and they wouldn't so I took the high road and pulled completely out of the thread. As for you comment, whether you think so or not, it was a personal attack which isn't allowed in here. Singling me out wasn't appreciated. Besides, I'm a senior citizen and have earned my right to be a grumpy old man. I think your buddy might need your lecture as well then.

 

[kjironman1]

I said bench. But really it can be fixed by getting another quality starter that can hit an open jumper and play defense. So then really i guess it would be "Roster" instead of bench. This team needs another quality player. If they can continue to develop players then so be it. But getting rid of Stotts or Olshey isn't going to change the fact that they need another quality player on this roster. I'm also quite certain Olshey will be looking to improve this roster in any way he can.

 

[CupWizier]

I said bench. But really it can be fixed by getting another quality starter that can hit an open jumper and play defense. So then really i guess it would be "Roster" instead of bench. This team needs another quality player. If they can continue to develop players then so be it. But getting rid of Stotts or Olshey isn't going to change the fact that they need another quality player on this roster. I'm also quite certain Olshey will be looking to improve this roster in any way he can.

I would like to explore the opportunity to bring Henderson back as long as he is healthy. He would be a solid player off the bench that can do a bit of everything and might come cheap with just missing a whole season.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I deleted my posts, not because I felt there was anything wrong, but because Sly asked posters to stop and they wouldn't so I took the high road and pulled completely out of the thread. As for you comment, whether you think so or not, it was a personal attack which isn't allowed in here. Singling me out wasn't appreciated. Besides, I'm a senior citizen and have earned my right to be a grumpy old man. I think your buddy might need your lecture as well then.

And that was cool to take the high road.
However, It doesnt change the fact that you were being condescendig at times in some of them, Whether you think your age gives you the right to do so or not.

Bones knows he should refrain from going personal even when being baited. He slips sometimes like we all do.
He just wants to discuss ways we could have and ways we can now and in the future, improve this team. Sometimes he gets aggresssive because people attack him personally over his opinions, rather than bringing stats or facts to refute his ideas.
Its okay to disagree and debate his opinions. Its not cool to Attack him personally because your opinion is his opinion is wrong. It takes two to tango.

To use the age card as a factor in knowledge and experience is weak sauce though. The game has changed so much over the years that what worked in the golden years wouldnt work now. Rule changes, cba changes, so many factors, that to say one has not been around long enough to watch the franchise over the years and cant know as much, is pure falacy and conjecture.
If anything, the younger generation knows more due to help from technology and analitics.
So when people play the card that young people havent been around and thus cant know, is innacurate at best.

 

[CupWizier]

And that was cool to take the high road.
However, It doesnt change the fact that you were being condescendig at times in some of them, Whether you think your age gives you the right to do so or not.

Bones knows he should refrain from going personal even when being baited. He slips sometimes like we all do.
He just wants to discuss ways we could have and ways we can now and in the future, improve this team. Sometimes he gets aggresssive because people attack him personally over his opinions, rather than bringing stats or facts to refute his ideas.
Its okay to disagree and debate his opinions. Its not cool to Attack him personally because your opinion is his opinion is wrong. It takes two to tango.

To use the age card as a factor in knowledge and experience is weak sauce though. The game has changed so much over the years that what worked in the golden years wouldnt work now. Rule changes, cba changes, so many factors, that to say one has not been around long enough to watch the franchise over the years and cant know as much, is pure falacy and conjecture.
If anything, the younger generation knows more due to help from technology and analitics.
So when people play the card that young people havent been around and thus cant know, is innacurate at best.

The age card was in humour and just because I am older doesn't mean I haven't seen the changes in the game. you seem to make excuses for bonesjones and chastise me. He is baited no more than anyone else in this forum and is often baiting others. None of us are innocent but It simply becomes a personal attack when one is singled out while another is given an excuse. Next time, please just leave me out of it if you want to discuss something with someone else. Fair enough?

PS- You do have the ability to correct your mistake as I have often done myself when I have thought about it.

 

[Orion Bailey]

The age card was in humour and just because I am older doesn't mean I haven't seen the changes in the game. you seem to make excuses for bonesjones and chastise me. He is baited no more than anyone else in this forum and is often baiting others. None of us are innocent but It simply becomes a personal attack when one is singled out while another is given an excuse. Next time, please just leave me out of it if you want to discuss something with someone else. Fair enough?

PS- You do have the ability to correct your mistake as I have often done myself when I have thought about it.

I wanst referring to your comment about being a senior citizen. I was referring to the several times you minimized bones’ posts based on his age.

Anytime i am aware of making a mistake or think to have made a mistake i do apologize. In this instance i do not belive i have made a mistake.

Really though. This is not worth fixating on.

 

[blue9]

So I ask, what better shot is there than an open one?

A high-percentage one?

 

[CupWizier]

• I wanst referring to your comment about being a senior citizen. I was referring to the several times you minimized bones’ posts based on his age.
  
  Anytime i am aware of making a mistake or think to have made a mistake i do apologize. In this instance i do not belive i have made a mistake.
  
  Really though. This is not worth fixating on.

  
  
  
• Saying something negative directly to me is one thing but doing it in a post to someone else is a cheap shot. Sorry you don't see it that way.

 

[Orion Bailey]

A high-percentage one?

Isnt an open shot a hog percentage one?

 

[Orion Bailey]

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• Saying something negative directly to me is one thing but doing it in a post to someone else is a cheap shot. Sorry you don't see it that way.

Lol, But i did say it directly to you. Just not in this post.

 

[CupWizier]

Lol, But i did say it directly to you. Just not in this post.

and this is the one I pointed out to you not any others right? You only want to look at it from your side and you are the one attacking side, not me. I have basically implied or asked you to remove me from your post and yet all you want to do is justify it. I could have cried to the mods, but chose instead to deal with it directly. I am off for the day to watch my son graduate with his Masters Degree so you have a nice day and maybe it will come to you.

 

[Orion Bailey]

and this is the one I pointed out to you not any others right? You only want to look at it from your side and you are the one attacking side, not me. I have basically implied or asked you to remove me from your post and yet all you want to do is justify it. I could have cried to the mods, but chose instead to deal with it directly. I am off for the day to watch my son graduate with his Masters Degree so you have a nice day and maybe it will come to you.

Dude. All i said was you have had some condescending posts here.

Let @SlyPokerDog consider that a personal attack and il lremove it. Until then you are around the bend if you are offended by this. Thick skin man. Thick skin.

Didn't you say in a another post you dont take this place seriously or dont take things personal here??

So which is it?

You dont get to have it both ways or be prepared to be called out on a regular basis.

And congratulations in the graduation. Thats proud material right there.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Hmm. This looks like it might be another popcorn eating, forum reading day. Haha.