Why is everyone getting pissed off about Native American team names now?

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Yes, you should all be ashamed. Better people than yourself look at you with disgust!
 
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I don't know, there are a bunch of Native American theme named sports teams, and for the most part people don't care. It's just the Redskins is a little bit too far in the racist direction, especially when paired with their horrible logo. There is nothing redeeming about that name, it's not honorable like the Braves, it doesn't pay tribute like the Blackhawks, It's just the color of skin. It really is in bad taste. I don't care too much, but if it were my Blazers I would want it changed for sure. I wouldn't wear a logo or name from that team.
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You're misinformed as to the etymology of redskin. Read these two pieces to educate yourself:

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002961.html

http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/redskin.pdf

Also, you should look up the original name of the franchise and why they changed it.
 
For the record, if they change the name of my Redskins, I'm dropping my season tickets and finding a new NFL team for which to root.
 
Just because Native Americans have better things to do than make this a cause doesn't mean changing the name isn't still the right thing to do. I think it's good that most people aren't getting overly involved with this, except a couple columnists, mostly just up to team fans and team players to decide if they want to apply pressure. I like how Bill Simmons is handling it, he didn't write some big story on it, he just stopped using the name.
 
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Just because Native Americans have better things to do than make this a cause doesn't mean changing the name isn't still the right thing to do. I think it's good that most people aren't getting overly involved with this, except a couple columnists, mostly just up to team fans and team players to decide if they want to apply pressure. I like how Bill Simmons is handling it, he didn't write some big story on it, he just stopped using the name.
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It's not that. It's that the word CAME FROM AMERICAN INDIANS.
 
maxiep said:
It's not that. It's that the word CAME FROM AMERICAN INDIANS.
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Where the word came from matters slightly, more important is what the word means today. I'm not claiming that the name is some racist attack, just that now, in 2013, the term is pejorative outside of football. Ask 100 people who aren't football fans what they think of the term redskin and I bet we would find it overwhelmingly derogatory. Until you posted the links, I had no idea the term came from Native Americans. That's interesting and did make me think about how that affected the context. Basically my conclusion is, not much. But I do understand the other point of view. But unless modern Native Americans feel good abou the use of the word, I just wouldn't want to use it.
 
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Where the word came from matters slightly, more important is what the word means today. I'm not claiming that the name is some racist attack, just that now, in 2013, the term is pejorative outside of football. Ask 100 people who aren't football fans what they think of the term redskin and I bet we would find it overwhelmingly derogatory. Until you posted the links, I had no idea the term came from Native Americans. That's interesting and did make me think about how that affected the context. Basically my conclusion is, not much. But I do understand the other point of view. But unless modern Native Americans feel good abou the use of the word, I just wouldn't want to use it.
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And I can't write "*****rdly" on this board instead of "cheap" because of ignorance. People should be educated rather than outraged due to their own lack of knowledge.
 
maxiep said:
And I can't write "*****rdly" on this board instead of "cheap" because of ignorance. People should be educated rather than outraged due to their own lack of knowledge.
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meh they would rather operate on emotion

oh..repped


"must spread around" they need to address this
 
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maxiep said:
For the record, if they change the name of my Redskins, I'm dropping my season tickets and finding a new NFL team for which to root.
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Now don't go losing your head over this.

Or your scalp.
 
maxiep said:
And I can't write "*****rdly" on this board instead of "cheap" because of ignorance. People should be educated rather than outraged due to their own lack of knowledge.
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It's not because of ignorance, it's now the word filter works. Send vbulletin an email and I'm sure they'll correct it in their next update of the software.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
It's not because of ignorance, it's now the word filter works. Send vbulletin an email and I'm sure they'll correct it in their next update of the software.
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No, it has to be ignorance, because that way we can feel superior
 
SlyPokerDog said:
It's not because of ignorance, it's now the word filter works. Send vbulletin an email and I'm sure they'll correct it in their next update of the software.
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How about if I wish to refer to a cigarette as a *** or a small bundle of sticks as ***gots?
 
maxiep said:
How about if I wish to refer to a cigarette as a *** or a small bundle of sticks as ***gots?
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I guess you call a cigarette a cigarette and a small bundle of sticks as kingspeed.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
I guess you call a cigarette a cigarette and a small bundle of sticks as kingspeed.
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I can differentiate between a bundle of sticks and someone who is attracted to someone of the same sex. And yes, I understand the basis of ***got and from where the slur developed. With redskin, it was just a few uptight people looking to be offended who changed the meaning of it.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Huh? What exactly do you think redskin means?
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It was what American Indians called themselves. No one was offended by the name for half a century until political correctness came along. Now, they're revising history.

And insofar as the Redskins name came to be, they were the Boston Football Braves. When they moved to Fenway, they couldn't be the Braves anymore, and wanted to keep their Indian heritage and honor their coach, who thought himself to be a Sioux, Bill "Lone Star" Deitz. To tie in with the Red Sox, they became the Redskins.

Like I said before, if the Skins change their name, the Redskins will be dead and they'll just be another football team to me.
 
maxiep said:
It was what American Indians called themselves. No one was offended by the name for half a century until political correctness came along. Now, they're revising history.

And insofar as the Redskins name came to be, they were the Boston Football Braves. When they moved to Fenway, they couldn't be the Braves anymore, and wanted to keep their Indian heritage and honor their coach, who thought himself to be a Sioux, Bill "Lone Star" Deitz. To tie in with the Red Sox, they became the Redskins.

Like I said before, if the Skins change their name, the Redskins will be dead and they'll just be another football team to me.
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I don't think they're trying to rewrite history, but shape the present.

And it's almost as if your entire devotion to the Redskins is to their name. Which is odd.
 
hoojacks said:
I don't think they're trying to rewrite history, but shape the present.

And it's almost as if your entire devotion to the Redskins is to their name. Which is odd.
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It's the same thing. They're trying to apply a post-modern interpretation on the moniker of the team. I deny the validity of the criticism.

As for my feelings toward the team, my connection is much deeper; almost as deep as the Blazers. However, to knuckle under to political correctness would be too much for me. I would just pretend the team folded and would find a new club. Frankly, life without Dan Snyder would be much easier.
 
maxiep said:
It's the same thing. They're trying to apply a post-modern interpretation on the moniker of the team. I deny the validity of the criticism.
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And therefore, so should evvvvverybody else.

As for my feelings toward the team, my connection is much deeper; almost as deep as the Blazers. However, to knuckle under to political correctness would be too much for me. I would just pretend the team folded and would find a new club. Frankly, life without Dan Snyder would be much easier.
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Wow. Here's a hilarious thought exercise: what if their projections determined that they would make more money if they dropped the name? If the name change was motivated by pure, unfiltered capitalism, would you still choke on your outrage?
 
santeesioux said:
White people sure do like getting offended for other people, as long as it's mainstream.
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This is the only time change happens. I didn't get the right to vote until White people marched with us.
 
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