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ABM said:
Certainly, DeSantis (in a way) used Trump's support to get on the political map. Nonetheless, I believe he has completely become his own man in his own right. That said, if he and Trump duke it out for the 2024 POTUS nomination, get your popcorn out. This will be a no-holds-barred brawl. I promise you that.
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I can’t wait I’m so excited
 
The fact that Republicans are going to point at fucking FLORIDA and say yes! That’s our guy! Is so perfect. Maybe they get a Kentucky Rep as a VP, and round things out with a Russian or MTG who knows. Maybe Boebert will be available. They could cruise around the White House lawn on Madison’s electric scooter and have a great time burning us down
 
Phatguysrule said:
Here's hoping that happens and Trump loses. Then he'll finish destroying the republican party.

Then Democrats will hopefully take advantage of it to do something right...
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If you really believe the Democrats can get out of their own way then you probably need to change your screen name to Pollyanna...........
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
If you really believe the Democrats can get out of their own way then you probably need to change your screen name to Pollyanna...........
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The problem with the Democrats is they wasted and continue to waste time in the hopes that the Republicans will all of a sudden choose to be civil and compassionate.

The Dems are too fucking meek to break the filibuster. They need to codify abortion rights, same sex marriage, etc. They need to fight back.
 
Trump and DeSantis have in common they both hate democracy.
To the best of my knowledge, DeSantis has never said whether Biden was legitimately elected. Not sure if ABM has either. I could be wrong. Chapter and verse?
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
If you really believe the Democrats can get out of their own way then you probably need to change your screen name to Pollyanna...........
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I actually don't believe that... But, unfortunately they have such a strangle hold on the left that it's our only hope. At least as far as I can see.
 
Woman haters are pressuring DeathSantis to call a special legislative session to outlaw abortion. Because punishing women can't wait until the next legislative session.
 
Hmmmm.....saying you can find stuff....and actually finding stuff.....could be two separate things. We'll see.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/07/hive-podcast-lis-smith-ron-desantis

LIS SMITH SAYS THE PATH TO TROUNCE RON DESANTIS IS STRAIGHT THROUGH RIGHT-WING MEDIA

............Vanity Fair: You were asked, when you joined Barack Obama’s campaign, to “get as many negative stories about Mitt Romney published as possible.” That’s what they said. And you had to go on that mission. If you’re doing that today, and somebody said, get as many negative stories about Ron DeSantis published as possible, where do you start?

Lis Smith: So if I’m on a Democratic campaign, and we’re concerned about him coming out of a primary, the good news is this: There’s a very, very vibrant, right-wing news ecosystem. And so what I would try to do is try to launder stories through there—Breitbart, Fox, Newsmax, Daily Wire, Daily Caller, Free Beacon, those sorts of sites. Because I think what we’ve seen increasingly is that those types of sites are less likely to pick up from mainstream media. If you get a negative story about [DeSantis] in the Washington Post, or New York Times, maybe 10 or 15 years ago, that might have been seen as the ultimate coup. But today, if you really want something to take root, and especially among Republican primary voters, I would go straight to the right. I’m sure that there are things from [DeSantis’s] time as governor that would put him at odds with the Republican base..........
 
https://news.yahoo.com/gop-insiders...d-beat-trump-in-2024-heres-how-190820108.html

GOP insiders think DeSantis could beat Trump in 2024. Here's how.

Rarely has a rising politician thrilled party regulars the way Ron DeSantis is thrilling Republicans right now.

"If you were scripting a perfect Republican presidential candidate, the list of preferred requirements would read something like DeSantis' resume," broadcaster Piers Morgan swooned in the New York Post last month.

Like other conservative commentators, Morgan touted DeSantis’s relative youth (he’s 43); his honors degrees from Yale (undergraduate) and Harvard (law); his time as a Navy lawyer, which took him to Guantánamo and Iraq and won him a Bronze Star; and most of all his reign as governor of Florida, where he has muscled his way into the middle of every contemporary culture war from COVID-19 to "critical race theory" — and banked over $100 million for his PAC and his 2024 reelection bid, a staggering sum for a state-level race.

"I think [DeSantis would] destroy beleaguered Joe Biden — or any other Democrat, for that matter — to win the presidency," Morgan predicted.

There's only one roadblock. He has to destroy Donald Trump first.

The reason MAGA pundits are even mentioning Ron and Don in the same sentence is simple. Amid growing legal troubles and a deluge of damaging revelations by the House select committee investigating his supporters' insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021, Trump’s viselike grip on the Republican electorate may be slipping. According to a recent Yahoo News/YouGov poll, more than 4 in 10 Republicans say either that Trump shouldn't run for president again (27%) or that they’re not sure (17%). Among all voters, a majority (52%) now think "Trump committed a crime by trying to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election," and even more (54%) think the U.S. Department of Justice should prosecute him — numbers that could make some Republicans wary about his ability to win a general election.

Meanwhile, DeSantis seems to be growing stronger. When asked to choose between the two potential 2024 candidates, fewer than half of registered voters who identify as Republicans or Republican-leaning independents say they would pick the former president (45%), according to the Yahoo News/YouGov poll. Nearly as many say they would prefer DeSantis (36%). GOP primary polls in key states such as New Hampshire, Michigan and Florida already put DeSantis in the lead (or close to it), and he has swept straw polls of GOP insiders in Wisconsin and Colorado in recent weeks. In September, he will headline the Republican National Committee’s fall retreat.
 
Miami school board rejected a previously approved high school sex education book because its chapter on Gender and Sexuality violates don't say gay law.
 
Please leave sex education out of our public schools.
 
ABM said:
https://news.yahoo.com/gop-insiders...d-beat-trump-in-2024-heres-how-190820108.html

GOP insiders think DeSantis could beat Trump in 2024. Here's how.

Rarely has a rising politician thrilled party regulars the way Ron DeSantis is thrilling Republicans right now.

"If you were scripting a perfect Republican presidential candidate, the list of preferred requirements would read something like DeSantis' resume," broadcaster Piers Morgan swooned in the New York Post last month.

Like other conservative commentators, Morgan touted DeSantis’s relative youth (he’s 43); his honors degrees from Yale (undergraduate) and Harvard (law); his time as a Navy lawyer, which took him to Guantánamo and Iraq and won him a Bronze Star; and most of all his reign as governor of Florida, where he has muscled his way into the middle of every contemporary culture war from COVID-19 to "critical race theory" — and banked over $100 million for his PAC and his 2024 reelection bid, a staggering sum for a state-level race.

"I think [DeSantis would] destroy beleaguered Joe Biden — or any other Democrat, for that matter — to win the presidency," Morgan predicted.

There's only one roadblock. He has to destroy Donald Trump first.

The reason MAGA pundits are even mentioning Ron and Don in the same sentence is simple. Amid growing legal troubles and a deluge of damaging revelations by the House select committee investigating his supporters' insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021, Trump’s viselike grip on the Republican electorate may be slipping. According to a recent Yahoo News/YouGov poll, more than 4 in 10 Republicans say either that Trump shouldn't run for president again (27%) or that they’re not sure (17%). Among all voters, a majority (52%) now think "Trump committed a crime by trying to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election," and even more (54%) think the U.S. Department of Justice should prosecute him — numbers that could make some Republicans wary about his ability to win a general election.

Meanwhile, DeSantis seems to be growing stronger. When asked to choose between the two potential 2024 candidates, fewer than half of registered voters who identify as Republicans or Republican-leaning independents say they would pick the former president (45%), according to the Yahoo News/YouGov poll. Nearly as many say they would prefer DeSantis (36%). GOP primary polls in key states such as New Hampshire, Michigan and Florida already put DeSantis in the lead (or close to it), and he has swept straw polls of GOP insiders in Wisconsin and Colorado in recent weeks. In September, he will headline the Republican National Committee’s fall retreat.
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This would be awesome! Then Trump runs as a 3rd party cadindate and torpedoes the GOP, giving the Democrat the win. Hopefully they will have had enough of a scare and actually want to get some protections codified...
 
ABM said:
Well, I'd prefer all of this to be handled in the home environment. Me thinks it's a homogenized mess in the schools. Who's guarding the guardians?
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Who was "guarding" them when you went to school? You think parents do a better job? Why would you think that? Even if you do, most don't.

I think there should be MORE sex ed in schools. It should be taught so often that it becomes boring, and every time some kids are about to have sex for the first time, unbidden, their horribly unsexy sex-ed teacher pops into their heads and scolds them about contraception and consent and taking care of their partner's needs first.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Who was "guarding" them when you went to school? You think parents do a better job? Why would you think that?
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You may be right. That's why the mother should have the 100% right to abort her baby.
 
ABM said:
Well, I'd prefer all of this to be handled in the home environment. Me thinks it's a homogenized mess in the schools. Who's guarding the guardians?
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Who's guarding the parents? Not you that's for sure! Teachers work their butts off to help kids get a head start on the life in front of them...hiding from reality about it is the coward's path. I know so many great teachers and parents that make your attempt to discredit them seem so out of touch with reality that it's actually sad. You seem to be pretty far removed from the single parents out there trying to raise kids and put food on the table. One would think your faith would ask you to be more understanding and less judgmental about our schools and the people who work there for a start. Teachers are dying in schools trying to protect the kids....don't see many real estate professionals doing that eh? Teachers are in many cases the last line of sanity for kids who live in bad home environments. The homogenous mess is living within your own fears and insecurities...kids aren't afraid of learning about reproduction and the risks of unprotected sex.
 
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