Wiggins for Love or Aldridge?

[Minstrel]

This Lebron for Wiggins isn't just debated here:

Jason Lloyd: Fascinating how polarizing debate is among league execs over whether #Cavs should trade Wiggins for Love. Strong opinions on both sides

There are good arguments in both directions. It'll be one of the most interesting decisions in recent years, IMO.

 

[BigGameDamian]

If I was Cleveland, I wouldn't trade Wiggins.

But then you wouldn't trade Aldridge for Wiggins either?

 

[magnifier661]

But then you wouldn't trade Aldridge for Wiggins either?

Well since the earth is round, it would make sense to eat pizza

 

[BBert]

Portland should trade LMA for Lebron, Wiggins and Thompson. Maybe throw in Wes and Batum.

And Meyers. Meyers is an integral part of any trade.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

And Meyers. Meyers is an integral part of any trade.

Get er done!

 

[The_Lillard_King]

The Minnesota Timberwolves and Cleveland Cavaliers have discussed a blockbuster trade centered around Kevin Love and the league's last two No. 1 draft picks, league sources told ESPN. In an attempt to add Love, a three-time All-Star, the Cavaliers are willing to part with Andrew Wiggins and Anthony Bennett, the top picks in the past two drafts. One source said the Cavs are also willing to give up a first-round draft pick for next season. Any other players involved in the talks are not known. ESPN.com

Talked about this yesterday, but here it is again

 

[RR7]

The Minnesota Timberwolves and Cleveland Cavaliers have discussed a blockbuster trade centered around Kevin Love and the league's last two No. 1 draft picks, league sources told ESPN. In an attempt to add Love, a three-time All-Star, the Cavaliers are willing to part with Andrew Wiggins and Anthony Bennett, the top picks in the past two drafts. One source said the Cavs are also willing to give up a first-round draft pick for next season. Any other players involved in the talks are not known. ESPN.com

Talked about this yesterday, but here it is again

And Cleveland would STILL have to add in about 6 million more to get it done, which means Thompson and someone. So would be Wiggins, Thompson, and Bennet, I believe.

 

[Pinwheel1]

And Cleveland would STILL have to add in about 6 million more to get it done, which means Thompson and someone. So would be Wiggins, Thompson, and Bennet, I believe.

Well I hope they do it. Better Cleveland than Golden State.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

And Cleveland would STILL have to add in about 6 million more to get it done, which means Thompson and someone. So would be Wiggins, Thompson, and Bennet, I believe.

That's too much

 

[magnifier661]

And Cleveland would STILL have to add in about 6 million more to get it done, which means Thompson and someone. So would be Wiggins, Thompson, and Bennet, I believe.

I seriously wouldn't do it

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Probasketballdraft @Probballdraft
Not to burst Cavs fans bubble but if Warriors are willing to include Thompson that trumps Cavs. Wolves prefer Klay bc more ready per source.

 

[Rhal]

Probasketballdraft @Probballdraft
Not to burst Cavs fans bubble but if Warriors are willing to include Thompson that trumps Cavs. Wolves prefer Klay bc more ready per source.

This is why the Wolves are still as much of a joke as when Khan was running them.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

This is why the Wolves are still as much of a joke as when Khan was running them.

lol . . . rest of article:

Klay Thompson is more ready? Ready to do what? Help Minnesota win 40 games again?

The Timberwolves finished 10th in the West last season with Love. Regardless of whether they trade the top-10 player for Thompson or Wiggins, they’re taking a step back. Flip Saunders isn’t that good of a coach, and the rest of the roster didn’t change much.

The West is too strong, anyway. Minnesota is better off rebuilding in earnest with Wiggins and letting the conference’s top teams cool off. Even if the Timberwolves were somewhat positioned to win now – they’re not – the intense intra-conference competition should push them in the direction of a longer-term process.

I hope Saunders is just trying to leverage the Warriors’ unwillingness to deal Thompson for Love into squeezing out every last possible asset from Cleveland in a Love-Wiggins trade. Wiggins plus salary filler to make the trade work under CBA rules is enough, but I don’t begrudge Saunders for trying to get more. He has Love, and therefore, he has some leverage.

But if he truly prefers Thompson to Wiggins, Saunders is more unqualified to run the Timberwolves than we ever imagined.



http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....-kevin-love-trade/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

 

[Mediocre Man]

If I am the pups, I jump all over any deal Wiggins is in over anything the Warriors are offering.

If you are trading a star......super star maybe, then you can't take "nice" players back. you need to take a player who at least has the chance of being special, and that is Wiggins. If it doesn't work out you will still win as many titles as you would have with Thompson.

 

[axs88]

Unless rules have changed since 2007, which is possible since there's been a new CBA but I don't see why the rules for this would have changed, teams can extend-and-trade a player, allowing the team they're trading the player to to work out an extension with the player that only takes effect if the player is traded to that team within 48 hours of the extension.

Link

Extend-and-trade is still an option, but not to the extent as in the old CBA when Carmelo got traded to NY.

• 2005 CBA: Players coming off their rookie scale contracts can extend for five additional seasons. All other veterans can extend for five total seasons, which includes the seasons remaining on their current contracts.

• 2011 CBA: Players coming off their rookie scale contracts can extend for four additional seasons, although the team can designate one player who is eligible for five seasons at the maximum salary. A team can have only one designated player on its roster at any time. All other veterans can extend for four total seasons, which includes the seasons remaining on their current contract. The extension in an extend-and-trade contract is limited to three total seasons, which includes the seasons remaining on the current contract.

Link

 

[Pinwheel1]

If I am the pups, I jump all over any deal Wiggins is in over anything the Warriors are offering.

If you are trading a star......super star maybe, then you can't take "nice" players back. you need to take a player who at least has the chance of being special, and that is Wiggins. If it doesn't work out you will still win as many titles as you would have with Thompson.

I agree. Plus Thompson will not be happy
there. Wiggins is a rookie and doesn't
know any better. Much easier to make him the face of
the franchise

 

[jlprk]

The Clippers used to get a very high pick every year. They threw some away, because there'll always be more.

The lucky Cavs get the #1 pick 2 out of every 3 years. Wiggins seems so rare, but he's expendable. They have 2 out of the next 3 #1s already in the bag.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Not with LeBron there. If Jordan would've gone to the Clippers in, say, 1990, they would've have had a chance for KG.

 

[magnifier661]

If I am the pups, I jump all over any deal Wiggins is in over anything the Warriors are offering.

If you are trading a star......super star maybe, then you can't take "nice" players back. you need to take a player who at least has the chance of being special, and that is Wiggins. If it doesn't work out you will still win as many titles as you would have with Thompson.

Yep. Love is leaving Minny for good. If you can get a 5 year guaranteed superstar possible player, and great youth to go with it, you better do it immediately


Go Blazers!

 

[adrenalize74]

Even though Aldridge for Wiggins is never gonna happen, I would do it if it were up to me. I have always liked Aldridge, but I dont think he is the difference maker, he has taken over games occassionally, but its usually only because he was on fire and it just happened.

Wigging could be special and Aldridge is replaceable with a combo of TRob and a trade piece.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Even though Aldridge for Wiggins is never gonna happen, I would do it if it were up to me. I have always liked Aldridge, but I dont think he is the difference maker, he has taken over games occassionally, but its usually only because he was on fire and it just happened.

Wigging could be special and Aldridge is replaceable with a combo of TRob and a trade piece.

3-5 years down the road from now they will see what could have been.

 

[Rhal]

Even though Aldridge for Wiggins is never gonna happen, I would do it if it were up to me. I have always liked Aldridge, but I dont think he is the difference maker, he has taken over games occassionally, but its usually only because he was on fire and it just happened.

Wigging could be special and Aldridge is replaceable with a combo of TRob and a trade piece.

I disagree. LA causes havoc in how teams have to play us and creates easg opportunities for others on our team. Wiggins could become better then LA, infact I think he will be, but to say LA is easily replaceable with TRob and a trade piece, which coming from Cavs would either be Bennet or Thompson, is just wrong. Our team would take a huge step back for a few years and be in the lotto until our young pieces improved.
Id definitely trade LA for Wiggins and Bennet or Thompson though, Wiggins is going to be really good.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

How are we so quick to forget Aldridge's performance in the first couple of playoff games? Against Dwight Howard and Omer Asik, two of the best defensive bigs in the business? Show the man some respect on his birthday.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Why are we all so convinced Wiggins is a superstar in waiting? The only reason he went #1 is because Embiid - his own teammate, on a non-title team - was injured.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

pretty crazy to think that the top 2 prospects arguably, were on a team that wasnt very special

 

[riverman]

of the 3 guys mentioned in the thread, LaMarcus is king...Wiggins hasn't played an actual NBA game yet.

 

[magnifier661]

of the 3 guys mentioned in the thread, LaMarcus is king...Wiggins hasn't played an actual NBA game yet.

And Aldridge said he wants to come back and be a lifelong Blazer. That's something Love hasn't advertised. That's why Minny is open to trading him and we aren't open to trading Aldridge.

 

[cmeese47]

of the 3 guys mentioned in the thread, LaMarcus is king...Wiggins hasn't played an actual NBA game yet.

I have never seen LA get 20 FTA's is a single game so Wiggins is off to a great start.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

FTA's in one game is not an indicator of overall player quality; Travis Outlaw once shot 20 FT's as a Blazer.

 

[julius]

I have never seen LA get 20 FTA's is a single game so Wiggins is off to a great start.

In summer league. Big whoop.

btw

http://stats.nba.com/gameDetail.html?GameID=0021300196