Trade Idea Will CJ get traded by the deadline?

[GriLtCheeZ]

Ugh. Thanks for catching that for me. I'll delete.

I've done it bro.

 

[James lamphear]

Take with a grain of salt given the source

Same trade I had let see if it happens.

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

I swear if they trade for Julius Fucking Randle I'm getting camo and zip ties and heading for Moda.

 

[James lamphear]

If we trade this week it won't be until Thursday for the deal would be complete. Because right now the Blazers are trying to get the best package for CJ.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Here's a trade that kinda makes sense for all 4:
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I know Nash said they're not trading Harden now, but if Harden let them know he's leaving at the end of the season, then I think they'd jump at this haul, especially as Simmons would be a pretty much perfect fit in Brooklyn.
Also (according to the Bill Simmons podcast I listened to - not an experience I recommend) the Nets want shooting help, in part because Joe Harris's situation is so uncertain, and could use Fournier.

Knicks get CJ, whom they're supposed to want. We avoid getting their terrible contracts and actually shave $12M off our cap, making the real decision makers very happy. I doubt this trade makes anyone on this board happy, but having seen CJ's negative effect on the team since he came back, think of it as addition by subtraction.

My first reaction: "you're kidding".

My second reaction: welcome to your 2022 Blazers.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Here is one of the reasons the the Blazers are listening to what the Knicks and the Pelicans have to offer. BOTH teams currently each have 24 draft picks between now and 2028,

Pity they won't give them up for CJ.

 

[Blazinaway]

That's the rumor. If it's true, use it

rumors I've seen is that they may have "interest"

I swear if they trade for Julius Fucking Randle I'm getting camo and zip ties and heading for Moda.

gotta feeling we ain't gonna get much for CJ just like the other trade, I think Randle will look good for what we end up getting assuming he is moved, just take and hope I am very wrong!

 

[HailBlazers]

Here is one of the reasons the the Blazers are listening to what the Knicks and the Pelicans have to offer. BOTH teams currently each have 24 draft picks between now and 2028,

Hot Damn.

 

[TBpup]

Not a big Randle fan, but if you can get close to the monster year he had last year, that would be pretty impressive. (24/10/6 on 41% 3-pt shooting) He is still putting up 19/10/5, it's just that his shooting fell off a cliff....ugly! Part of that may be that they tried to make him a #1. He wouldn't have to worry about that here and would get more 1-on-1 coverage. He is still very quick down low.

 

[Strenuus]

If we trade this week it won't be until Thursday for the deal would be complete. Because right now the Blazers are trying to get the best package for CJ.

It has been proven that going up to the deadline for Cronin isn't a thing. He just like... Does it.

 

[TBpup]

Hot Damn.

Seriously. Knick/Pelicans both have 24 picks between now and 2028. By contrast, we have a grand total of......11.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Seriously. Knick/Pelicans both have 24 picks between now and 2028. By contrast, we have a grand total of......11.

Technically we don’t have any 1st rounders to offer until The one we traded is used which at latest could be 2030. That means we can’t offer 1st with any deal until that one is used. Really ties our hands on any kind of deal we could offer. Good thing we didn’t at least get a 1st rounder in clips trade

 

[Idog1976]

randle was one of the best defensive bigs in the league last year, but nearly every metric. but yes, he has to be engaged to get that effort on that end.

I did not know Randle was a defender. Watching him this year here and there it didn't seem like that was the case at all. If indeed that is true that changes things dramatically and I would be far more open to this trade. I'd still GREATLY prefer someone who is elite at defending the perimeter.

 

[illmatic99]

I'd still GREATLY prefer someone who is elite at defending the perimeter.

That's the hope for Reddish.

This kinda move would be a high upside swing in hopes of having Dame/ Billups/Nurk set them all right

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Here is one of the reasons the the Blazers are listening to what the Knicks and the Pelicans have to offer. BOTH teams currently each have 24 draft picks between now and 2028,

Maybe Houston would like some of those picks? It looks like they only have a net of about plus three picks over those years. I would much rather have Wood than Randle. The problem is that New York has no expiring contracts to send to Houston. Which is why I would rather deal with New Orleans.

 

[illmatic99]

Seriously. Knick/Pelicans both have 24 picks between now and 2028. By contrast, we have a grand total of......11.

Each? Or they have 12 and we have 11? Not much of a difference?

 

[SharpesTriumph]

(referring to a Knicks package)



Much more likely to get a pick(s) from New Orleans. In fact, from the bits I've heard, the Pels are willing to throw in more picks to be able to keep all the players they want. The problem that creates, it is would take 4-5 players to equal CJ's salary given who they want to keep. Doesn't seem realistic as Portland doesn't have the roster spots. It would have to be a 3-way, or the Blazers would have to send out a 3-1 deal for someone like a Bagley first that wouldn't require much talent going to the Kings, then have room to take back who the Pels are trying to unload albeit with more picks. (possibly 3)

Or the Blazers send out 2 scrubs, Elleby and Snell. This issue you list is really not an issue.

 

[DDolla]

Jody loves saving money instead of competing so yes. CJ for a bag of potatoes and more cash considerations

 

[TBpup]

Each? Or they have 12 and we have 11? Not much of a difference?

The first post included the word 'each'. Didn't include it in the second mention but yes. both teams EACH have 24 picks between now and 2028.

 

[illmatic99]

The first post included the word 'each'. Didn't include it in the second mention but yes. both teams EACH have 24 picks between now and 2028.

Seems unnaturally high. I dont think it's right.

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team

Some of the picks theyre owed are contingent. Not sure if theyre being counted multiple times in your number

 

[TBpup]

Seems unnaturally high. I dont think it's right.

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team

Some of the picks theyre owed are contingent. Not sure if theyre being counted multiple times in your number

Perhaps. Was going by what the FanSpo trade machine had listed. It shows both team having 24 picks. When you click on the dropdown, it details the years and where they come from along with protections.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Has he been traded yet?

 

[SharpesTriumph]

yes. I'm considering Randle + 5-8 mil filler AND Reddish.

The deals can be setup differently from NY and PDX point of view. So 2 trades from PDX but 1 from NY. So randle plus reddish without filler for CJ.

Edit actually maybe not ... We can do one but they need two for cam.... but that doesn't help match CJ.

 

[illmatic99]

Perhaps. Was going by what the FanSpo trade machine had listed. It shows both team having 24 picks. When you click on the dropdown, it details the years and where they come from along with protections.

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Ya that's a weird calculation. Doesnt consider protections or contingencies and most of those are second rounders.

 

[TBpup]

@illmatic99 (can't get your last post to quote)

"Ya that's a wrong calculation. It essentially says we owe CHI 6 picks just cuz our protection is until 2028."

I wasn't talking about Portland's picks. However, it shows us not having our 1st this year, but having it in '23, '24, '25 '26. '27 and '28. Not sure where it shows us owing CHI 6 picks.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Seriously. Knick/Pelicans both have 24 picks between now and 2028. By contrast, we have a grand total of......11.

Do you know how many firsts? They are worth 10x a second rounder so that's a much more useful stat IMO. I feel like NO has way better draft assets with all those Lakers picks but I don't have a list.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Technically we don’t have any 1st rounders to offer until The one we traded is used which at latest could be 2030. That means we can’t offer 1st with any deal until that one is used. Really ties our hands on any kind of deal we could offer. Good thing we didn’t at least get a 1st rounder in clips trade

Doesn't bother me at all now as this rebuilding franchise shouldn't be trading away firsts.

 

[TBpup]

Do you know how many firsts? They are worth 10x a second rounder so that's a much more useful stat IMO. I feel like NO has way better draft assets with all those Lakers picks but I don't have a list.

They have a bunch from the Davis trade, (Lakers) and some from the Holliday trade. (Bucks). FanSpo is showing 13 1st Rnd picks for the Pels between now and 2028.

 

[TBpup]

https://pacificnwsports.com/portlan...BtFIpIjMT8-fTr3QirJRbTKLnlrf98kpctsH36932Cx44

(3 page piece.....here is a brief excerpt

"AE: They’re better positional fits. Portland needs a forward, and Randle would compliment Lillard and fit with Simons and Lillard. McCollum is an o. New York needs a shooter and primary scorer that can create. McCollum would slide right in with Fournier in New York’s backcourt, Barret could take on more of the offense, and Rose is back in the sixth man role that Thibodeau prefers him in.

They may be a wash in overall contributions. But they would fit the other team’s roster better than their current team. Also, Depending on what’s salaries are going where NYK may have to throw in a fist as well.

Rob Ryan (RR)
Randle for Mccollum makes the most sense, in my opinion. It might seem lateral, but it’s re-allocating talent to a needed position. Randle reminds me a little of Zach Randolph with better defense, and if you had a Randle/Nurkic tandem down low with Dame/Simons/Little spreading the floor and slashing, I think it greatly raises Portland’s ceiling and balances their offensive attack. Probably the most balanced since LaMarcus Aldridge left.

Mccollum taking over as the starting point guard in New York would give him the opportunity to blow up at the position he is actually a better fit for. I think Mccollum is more talented than Randle, and him finally being showcased would actually bring more attention to the Knicks. Randle doesn’t need to be a 24 point-per-game scorer in Portland; he just needs to be an inside presence to help balance the team."

 

[wizenheimer]

They have a bunch from the Davis trade, (Lakers) and some from the Holliday trade. (Bucks). FanSpo is showing 13 1st Rnd picks for the Pels between now and 2028.

their 2022 is obligated to Charlotte, but it is lottery protected. Other than that they have 6 of their own 1st's and 7 incoming 1st's. However, 3 of those incoming 1st's are pick swaps. Not sure how you could trade those