Will Miles play tonight? (Merged)

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La Bomba said:
When did I say I took Miles seriously. I even said that we signed him to piss y'all off, and yes Ross is a better defender then Miles.
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What the hell are you talking about? i said MARIS, not Miles.

And I know your opinion on Ross being a better defender than Miles, You don't know my opinion on that matter. I was asking drexlersdad why he was stunned?

If he was stunned by you saying Ross is a better defender than Miles, then I am shocked because Ross is a better defender than Miles
 
JFizzleRaider said:
What the hell are you talking about? i said MARIS, not Miles.

And I know your opinion on Ross being a better defender than Miles, You don't know my opinion on that matter. I was asking drexlersdad why he was stunned?

If he was stunned by you saying Ross is a better defender than Miles, then I am shocked because Ross is a better defender than Miles
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I misread, no biggie. Who's Maris anyway?
 
At the end of the day, at the very least, the Blazers aren't getting super cheated. Miles can clearly still play, and quite well at that. He's not some hobbled up figure just struggling his way on the court for a minute a game.
 
at the end of the day, memphis is a joke of a team, and will be until they get sold.
 
drexlersdad said:
at the end of the day, memphis is a joke of a team, and will be until they get sold.
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They could go places in the future with Mayo and Gay. Mayo is an extremely talented player that will only get better. I think Mayo will probably bolt when he can, but if he doesn't I see them becoming relevant with him as their star
 
JFizzleRaider said:
lol, unfortunately people in cities such as Chicago, LA and NY say the same thing about us
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The interesting thing is that no major free agents seem to have much interest in Chicago.

Kobe Bryant was the only one recently who did. Like Tim Duncan, T-mac, Grant Hill etc. all listened to our offers, went to lunch, etc. but none of them signed with us. Kobe didn't force a sign and trade either, and apparently vetoed a trade as well. Ben Wallace was our only major one, and we simply offered him the most money, and our team seemed to be on an upward trajectory.

Obviously haven't New York rolling in awhile in free agency.
 
Денг Гордон said:
The interesting thing is that no major free agents seem to have much interest in Chicago.

Kobe Bryant was the only one recently who did. Like Tim Duncan, T-mac, Grant Hill etc. all listened to our offers, went to lunch, etc. but none of them signed with us. Kobe didn't force a sign and trade either, and apparently vetoed a trade as well. Ben Wallace was our only major one, and we simply offered him the most money, and our team seemed to be on an upward trajectory.

Obviously haven't New York rolling in awhile in free agency.
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I'm not just talking about free agency. Even if a team is over the cap anyways you can sign a guy to the MLE. Like NY did with Duhon who has been great for them.

Players try to persuade where they get traded sometimes too, and most players I'm sure would want to play in a big market (especially LA with there weather).

I think one of the reasons some of those guys didn't sign with Chicago was because they didn't want to follow in the footsteps of Jordan and have all those expectations put on them
 
JFizzleRaider said:
I'm not just talking about free agency. Even if a team is over the cap anyways you can sign a guy to the MLE. Like NY did with Duhon who has been great for them.

Players try to persuade where they get traded sometimes too, and most players I'm sure would want to play in a big market (especially LA with there weather).

I think one of the reasons some of those guys didn't sign with Chicago was because they didn't want to follow in the footsteps of Jordan and have all those expectations put on them
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Duhon went to New York because of D'Antoni and him promising Duhon the starting spot. He obviously had no future in Chicago. If we had a different guard situation, I think Duhon would have stayed in Chicago over New York for equal money. But Duhon would have been dumb not to jummp at that.

Some other teams, like Boston, were going after him a bit, but not offering him the same role. Duhon had to take the biggest role possible, because that's his chance to make the most money possible.
 
Although one really interesting free agent factor is the Obama factor. It'll be interesting to see if Obama could have any impact on free agency.

Like say Bulls trade Nocioni ,get that 2010 capspace. Can Obama deliver us Lebron? Lebron would become almost presidential like. The first basketball player if you will.

And if Obama isn't spending our tax dollars on bribing players to come to Chicago, then he's not doing his job as a Chicago poltician in the White House well enough.
 
maxiep said:
That's a secondary step. First, we'll file an appeal if and when Miles' salary gets put back on our books.
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Hmm... you know... the appeal might have worked prior to that email... but I don't know if the league is really in the mood to help us :lol:
 
Didn't everyone know it was going to happen unless Miles was basically shot in the knees and was physically not able to even walk? Hell, they'd still find a way to put him in for a minute or two. Don't act surprised.

On another note, wouldn't it have been a better idea to say that "if Miles plays X amount of minutes" instead of 10 games? Whatever the case, he pulled down 10 points and 7 boards tonight. That's considered a good game for Oden's standards this year. Maybe he really can play.
 
SheedSoNasty said:
Didn't everyone know it was going to happen unless Miles was basically shot in the knees and was physically not able to even walk? Hell, they'd still find a way to put him in for a minute or two. Don't act surprised.

On another note, wouldn't it have been a better idea to say that "if Miles plays X amount of minutes" instead of 10 games? Whatever the case, he pulled down 10 points and 7 boards tonight. That's considered a good game for Oden's standards this year. Maybe he really can play.
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I don't think anyone is arguing that he can't play. I think the Blazers will argue that continuing to play will cause long-term catastrophic damage to his knee joints and that the physicians hired by the NBA and NBA PA agree. Therefore, the Blazers shouldn't be responsible for Darius' decision to risk his health.
 
maxiep said:
I don't think anyone is arguing that he can't play. I think the Blazers will argue that continuing to play will cause long-term catastrophic damage to his knee joints and that the physicians hired by the NBA and NBA PA agree. Therefore, the Blazers shouldn't be responsible for Darius' decision to risk his health.
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That pretty much sums it up.
 
I think the fact that an independent doctor and an NBA doctor both concluded that Darius was done should give us a little recourse.
 
Furball said:
I think the fact that an independent doctor and an NBA doctor both concluded that Darius was done should give us a little recourse.
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Recourse with who exactly though? The NBA? Do we appeal to the NBA or do we go to a court of law?
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm not saying we should. What course of action would you propose?
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Then what does this mean?

Originally Posted by Natebishop3
Oh well. The shit is over. It's done. Let's drop it.
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I have no clue as to what course of action the Blazers will or should take. I've heard a few things, but it's all been second hand.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Recourse with who exactly though? The NBA? Do we appeal to the NBA or do we go to a court of law?
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I think first you would have to go to the League. Get this loophole taken care of in-house.
 
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