Will The Nets Regret Not Drafting Bayless?

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ Jul 21 2008, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>everyone missed my CDR joke
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I saw it and chuckled, I just didn't want to make a comment and have the die hard homer nets fans freak out.
 
Give me a legitimate 7 footer who can score in a variety of ways and be a defensive presence just because of his size over a midget who does nothing other than score. He will always cause problems on the defensive end because he is smaller than my 5 year old niece. He will get abused defensively. Although it is not surprising Bayless is getting so much hype here. The grass is always greener on the other side for some here.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 21 2008, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 21 2008, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I saw that we drafted Brook Lopez, and I was like "Eh, not bad. At least it's not Robin". Then I see Jerryd Bayless went next. And I literally sat there for half a minute staring.</div>

Wow, for a second, I thought I posted that.



The Nets will rue the day they passed on Jerryd Bayless! Rue, I say!

Really though, I hate that they didn't go for him, and still have serious questions about Brook's rebounding ability and his basketball (and general) intelligence. His shot selection is shit. And he's not even that great of a shooter.
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and you are saying this just base on what you read from his college stats and bio. Listen sometimes you just have to trust the Nets scouts rather than analysts and hope they made the right decision. The Nets personal has basically done a above average job of scouting over the years. Listin I'm going to mention the New England Patriots in this situation. They often skip on the person you think has the most talent but the Patriots do a good a job in believing they've done good scouting and pick the person most suited for their team. ThePatriots never listin to Analysts or Mock drafts. I know mock drafts and mock websites really hyped up Bayless but we can't really have this discussion for a few years. Even if you go by mock drafts though Bayless and lopez were ranked about the same so I don't see the big deal. I like Bayless too but don't you guys always say in Rod We Trust. He did draft Michael Jordan didn't he
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 21 2008, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ Jul 21 2008, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>everyone missed my CDR joke
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Not true

It just wasn't funny
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Jul 21 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ Jul 21 2008, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>everyone missed my CDR joke
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I saw it and chuckled, I just didn't want to make a comment and have the die hard homer nets fans freak out.
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Point taken JFizzle, point taken very well
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ak30 @ Jul 21 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Give me a legitimate 7 footer who can score in a variety of ways and be a defensive presence just because of his size over a midget who does nothing other than score. He will always cause problems on the defensive end because he is smaller than my 5 year old niece. He will get abused defensively. Although it is not surprising Bayless is getting so much hype here. The grass is always greener on the other side for some here.</div>

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o man thos pics bring back memories. remember Evan Eschemyer and Jame Feick also. I like Jamie a lot though
 
Here's a challenge for you Brook Lopez lovers out there. Name one NBA 7-footer, in history, no matter how bad, who ever had a season in college, at any age, where they shot less than 50% from the field.

Felton Spencer, Rafael Araujo, Matt Geiger, Olowakandi, Polynice, Bryant Reeves, Jason Collins, Benoit Benjamin, Juman Oldham, Mark Acres, Evan Eschmeyer -- none of them ever had a college season where they shot lower than 50%. The worst I can find is Sharone Wright put up .498 as a freshman, and Jarron Collins did .496 and .485 as a soph and junior.

Brook Lopez shot .468 last year. I realize stats aren't everything, but that really jumps out at me. That he averaged nearly 8 misses a game, combined with his poor rebounding, makes me dubious that he can even be a solid NBA player.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (essrog @ Jul 21 2008, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Here's a challenge for you Brook Lopez lovers out there. Name one NBA 7-footer, in history, no matter how bad, who ever had a season in college, at any age, where they shot less than 50% from the field.

Felton Spencer, Rafael Araujo, Matt Geiger, Olowakandi, Polynice, Bryant Reeves, Jason Collins, Benoit Benjamin, Juman Oldham, Mark Acres, Evan Eschmeyer -- none of them ever had a college season where they shot lower than 50%. The worst I can find is Sharone Wright put up .498 as a freshman, and Jarron Collins did .496 and .485 as a soph and junior.

Brook Lopez shot .468 last year. I realize stats aren't everything, but that really jumps out at me. That he averaged nearly 8 misses a game, combined with his poor rebounding, makes me dubious that he can even be a solid NBA player.</div>


That really put me off on the Lopez bandwagon when I looked that up after the season ended.

And I suspect its why he fell to 10, too.

Doesn't mean he cannot become a solid player/won't become a good player/etc..... but it is a red flag.
 
Bayless is going to look great b/c he'll be playing with Oden, Roy and Aldridge. Summer League doesn't mean much to me either way. I would have been happy if they had taken Bayless but with Devin Harris around you have a greater need for a good big than a combo guard. Someone on here pointed out all the Arizona players that go pro turn out great. (Dumpy? NI? Sorry I can't give credit to whoever it was.) But Bayless has that going for him too.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 21 2008, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (essrog @ Jul 21 2008, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Here's a challenge for you Brook Lopez lovers out there. Name one NBA 7-footer, in history, no matter how bad, who ever had a season in college, at any age, where they shot less than 50% from the field.

Felton Spencer, Rafael Araujo, Matt Geiger, Olowakandi, Polynice, Bryant Reeves, Jason Collins, Benoit Benjamin, Juman Oldham, Mark Acres, Evan Eschmeyer -- none of them ever had a college season where they shot lower than 50%. The worst I can find is Sharone Wright put up .498 as a freshman, and Jarron Collins did .496 and .485 as a soph and junior.

Brook Lopez shot .468 last year. I realize stats aren't everything, but that really jumps out at me. That he averaged nearly 8 misses a game, combined with his poor rebounding, makes me dubious that he can even be a solid NBA player.</div>


That really put me off on the Lopez bandwagon when I looked that up after the season ended.

And I suspect its why he fell to 10, too.

Doesn't mean he cannot become a solid player/won't become a good player/etc..... but it is a red flag.
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I've never liked him, and that's always been why.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Jul 21 2008, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bayless is going to look great b/c he'll be playing with Oden, Roy and Aldridge. Summer League doesn't mean much to me either way. I would have been happy if they had taken Bayless but with Devin Harris around you have a greater need for a good big than a combo guard. Someone on here pointed out all the Arizona players that go pro turn out great. (Dumpy? NI? Sorry I can't give credit to whoever it was.) But Bayless has that going for him too.</div>

Yeah, and Standford players that go pro turn out...well...um...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 21 2008, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, and Standford 7 foot twins that go pro turn out...well...um...
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The reason Sharone Wright shot .498 as a freshman is that he won the 3 point contest at the McDonalds All-American game and it took Cliff Ellis half a year to drum it out of his skull.
 
when we first drafted lopez i was so mad... because i wanted bayless so bad... but after what lopez has shown improvement and eagerness to learn... and a smooth medium jump shot ^^ im am not 1 bit sad... yes will bayless be better? maybe... but we addressed our needs... with our 3 draft picks and offseason signing... (including *officially* dooling) and i wana see what else rod thorn has up sleeve to WOW us


hoping its a GOOD WOW

not a wtf WOW
 
I was at a Nets ticket holder breakfast on Friday.

Bobby Marks was asked who the Nets would have picked if Lopez had not fallen to #10 and he immediately said Jerryd Bayless, noting that Bayless and Harris play the same game but that wouldnt have mattered. He was too much of a skilled player to leave on the board. If they hadnt been available, they might have done the deal with Portland, trading #10 for #13 and another second rounder. (He didnt say it but in that scenario, Robin Lopez would have been a Net and not Brook).

He also said that the Nets discussed taking Courtney Lee at #21, but did not mention any of the others left on the board like Greene.

The old NBA adage about the draft is if youre going to make a mistake, make a BIG mistake, meaning a mistake with a BIG.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jul 22 2008, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I was at a Nets ticket holder breakfast on Friday.

Bobby Marks was asked who the Nets would have picked if Lopez had not fallen to #10 and he immediately said Jerryd Bayless, noting that Bayless and Harris play the same game but that wouldnt have mattered. He was too much of a skilled player to leave on the board. If they hadnt been available, they might have done the deal with Portland, trading #10 for #13 and another second rounder. (He didnt say it but in that scenario, Robin Lopez would have been a Net and not Brook).

He also said that the Nets discussed taking Courtney Lee at #21, but did not mention any of the others left on the board like Greene.

The old NBA adage about the draft is if youre going to make a mistake, make a BIG mistake, meaning a mistake with a BIG.</div>

That was kind of a loaded question, though, because it assumes that the only remaining consensus top-ten player on the board at that point would have been Bayless. Everyone conceded that there were ten players in the draft that were the best prospects . . . all the nets seem to be saying is that they agree with that assessment.

A better question might have been: If the Nets had the #6 pick, who would they have taken? I'm really curious to know if interest in Gallinari was a ruse.

Courtney Lee fit the profile like a "T." In my view, it's unlikely that they would have taken him had they selected Bayless, though.
 
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