Williams Upset Nets Picked Up Option

[BrooklynBound]

No. To me, it means that SWat is an idiot. You are free to feel otherwise.

I now expect him to get traded this season.

Well, you didn't really convince me why you think he's an idiot. Of course I'm free to think otherwise.

And you really think that most people aren't self-interested? How do you figure? If so, why don't most NBA players take a lower salary so that their teams can have a better cap figure?

 

[MisterMontross]

Well, you didn't really convince me why you think he's an idiot. Of course I'm free to think otherwise.

And you really think that most people aren't self-interested?

But you admit it's the first time you've heard a 2nd year player lament that his 3rd year option has been picked up.

And that player has proven nothing at the NBA level other that he is foul prone and not able to understand the intricacies of the NBA game.

Oh, and he expressed his disappointment AFTER the Nets picked up his option. He's smart, ain't he?

 

[BrooklynBound]

But you admit it's the first time you've heard a 2nd year player lament that his 3rd year option has been picked up.

And that player has proven nothing at the NBA level other that he is foul prone and not able to understand the intricacies of the NBA game.

Oh, and he expressed his disappointment AFTER the Nets picked up his option. He's smart, ain't he?

Not hearing about players talk about their self-interest in this instance doesn't mean they aren't self-interested. And that's what's relevant here. We see do see examples of pro athletes being self-interested in other ways.

It's puzzling that you think most people aren't interested in their own well being. How do you figure? If so, why don't most NBA players take a lower salary so that their teams can have a better cap figure?

 

[MisterMontross]

Not hearing about players talk about their self-interest in this instance doesn't mean they aren't self-interested. And that's what's relevant here. We see do see examples of pro athletes being self-interested in other ways.

It's puzzling that you think most people aren't interested in their own well being. How do you figure? If so, why don't most NBA players take a lower salary so that their teams can have a better cap figure?

Again, He made it known he was disappointed Nets picked up his 3rd year option AFTER the deed was done.

SWat is an idiot.

But hey, I don't want to shake your beliefs in what is relevant.

 

[Joey FistPump]

I love that everyone ignores the fact that Swat was the number 3 ranked rookie for the majority of last season, honestly though he was sometimes erratic he was actually a pleasant surprise last season. I mean until Nenad came back and Sean lost his starting spot Sean actually played very well. As for this season and beyond I think Sean sees the bigger picture. He's better suited to playing power forward but in our system the power forward needs to be able to stroke the ball and hit outside shots...like Yi Jianlin and Ryan Anderson. As for Center...Swat is a little undersized to play the position defensively and has Josh Boone and Brook Lopez in front of him...meaning if both players stay healthy he is going to see absolutely zero minutes at the 5. He's being a realist...nothing wrong with that...he most likely doesn't have a future with this team.

Personally I feel he will be traded sometime this season...wouldn't mind doing something like This

Get rid of two bigs we don't use for a big we wont use and a small forward we might use.

 

[BrooklynBound]

Again, He made it known he was disappointed Nets picked up his 3rd year option AFTER the deed was done.

SWat is an idiot.

But hey, I don't want to shake your beliefs in what is relevant.

How is an idiot? You still have not made that case.

Most people care about themselves and, therefore, it's reasonable for Sean to want to be on the market as soon as possible.

 

[MisterMontross]

How is an idiot? You still have not made that case.

Most people care about themselves and, therefore, it's reasonable for Sean to want to be on the market as soon as possible.

Again, he stated his objection AFTER THE FACT. Was that supposed to make ANYONE associated with the Nets happy? Is that statement supposed to inspire Frank to play SWat more minutes?

SWat is an idiot.

 

[BrooklynBound]

Again, he stated his objection AFTER THE FACT. Was that supposed to make ANYONE associated with the Nets happy? Is that statement supposed to inspire Frank to play SWat more minutes?

SWat is an idiot.

If objected before, he would object after. If he thinks he's undervalued, of course he'd rather not have his option picked up. That doesn't mean he's an idiot.

If I'm the coach, I would think it's rational that someone wants to do what's best for them. As a coach, I'm doing what's best for me. The Nets are doing what's best for them by picking up the option. Expecting others to not look out for themselves is not realistic.

My minutes would be given out based on what's happening in practice and in the games, not in contract discussions. It's not relevant. Williams is not being a malcontent here.

 

[GMJ]

Again, he stated his objection AFTER THE FACT. Was that supposed to make ANYONE associated with the Nets happy? Is that statement supposed to inspire Frank to play SWat more minutes?

SWat is an idiot.

No, Sean asked Thorn not to pick up his option. Dave D reported on it afterwards.

 

[reganomics813]

And I'm choosing to believe he is a moron that just brought down his trade value.

Let's consider other second year players that have been incredibly successful. Wouldn't they rather their teams hadn't picked up their 3rd year options so they could become UFAs, and make LOTS OF MONEY in their 3rd year.

And yes, SWat has been an INCREDIBLE disappointment, even turning down a start in the exhibition season, when NO PLAYER on the Nets needs court time more than SWat.

Now I hope Nets sit SWat this entire season, than pick up his 4th year option. SWat is quite the MAHROOOOON.

You're more than welcome to that opinion. I'm sure the GMs who are interested in Sean know full well that he still has some learning to do and will chalk this up as a redeemable offense if they brought him in. While it may not be the norm for a player to do or even admit to such a thing it's not completely out of character to believe Sean of all people did it. He's a big kid and, while I have no problem with you holding him to a higher standard, he might just need to learn things the hard way to have things register. I understand if that is unacceptable to you but those are tendencies that our front office decided was worth the risk when we drafted him.

Maybe playing Sean will hurt his trade value and sitting him is the best play. Maybe he is an idiot with insane athletic ability who might never put it together. Or maybe we did such a good job drafting and signing players that Frank wants, the guy he can't figure out is getting the shaft. Maybe Sean just wants to know we have some kind of plan for him and this was his way of finding out.

The best way to gauge is to see what Rod brings in for him if the trade you predict comes to fruition. Until then it's all speculation.

 

[SportsTicker]

Mr. Montross is indeed correct...and it goes beyond his analysis.

Anyone who doesn't think that Williams wants out is very naive. Every player who has ever asked for a trade has said they love their team but business is business. It is a (thinly) veiled trade demand. And like all public trade demands, it makes said player more difficult to move...particularly when, as has been reported, there is little interest in the first place.

The rationale for exercising a third or fourth year option on a player like him is all about increasing his trade value. Another team looking at a young player with potential is more likely to be seriously interested if it knows the player will be around for more than a year. Adam Morrison said he believes his option was exercised for that very reason. Williams understands this, but would rather have his contract end this June so he can make his own deal. To him, that's better than being traded. But by noting this after the fact doesn't serve his interest. It makes dealing him more difficult and that is currently his best option for getting what he wants: an opportunity to make money.

FYI, Williams was NOT in the top three for the MAJORITY of the season. He was indeed ranked in the top three for a few weeks, just after he started. By season's end, he wasn't even in top 15.

The Nets drafted two big men and traded for another on June 26. Then, they picked up yet another in free agency. The handwriting was clearly on the wall...for whatever reason. Then, Williams played poorly in all but one game of the 10 games he played in two summer leagues.

I had high hopes for his development. Now, I just think it's time he moved on.

 

[BrooklynBound]

Mr. Montross is indeed correct...and it goes beyond his analysis.

Anyone who doesn't think that Williams wants out is very naive. Every player who has ever asked for a trade has said they love their team but business is business. It is a (thinly) veiled trade demand. And like all public trade demands, it makes said player more difficult to move...particularly when, as has been reported, there is little interest in the first place.
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Careful. Just because A always has done B, doesn't mean that B always will do A.

We don't know it was a trade demand. We have no evidence to support that.

 

[No.1]

SWAT is either an idiot for confirming this or wants to get out without saying "I want to leave." OF COURSE all second year players want more money. That's in the name of self-interest. However, he just HAD to be the one to admit it. That said, this won't hurt his trade value. NOT playing him does. Hard to convince people without something to convince them on.

 

[kdub]

If anything, it was dumb of Sean to disclose this to the public.

 

[Belarus]

I had high hopes for his development. Now, I just think it's time he moved on.

same here seriously, i thought we might have had some player in Sean. apparently, not.

 

[Kidd Karma]

Dumb response on his part....probably buys him a ticket out of here, when the right deal presents itself.

 

[Mr. J]

I think he deserves to be able to opt out. I mean, he has loads of potential and looks like the next Amare Stoudemire. Plus it's not like he's a malcontent like, say, Nate Robinson. He's definitely a keeper. LeBron will love this guy in Brooklyn.