Wilson Chandler to POR?

[riverman]

Or, we need another reliable shooter so that we have a lower probability of all of our shooters being cold at the same time. I wish Afflalo were available at a price we could afford. Is Olshey savvy enough to convince them to take McCollum/TRob/#1?

Of all the trade suggestions put out there, Afflalo is the one guy that I'd like to see as a 6 man off the bench. I'd trade CJ TRob plus change for him. Not sure I'd include the pick.

 

[Boob-No-More]

What about Kevin Martin. I'm sure we could get him from MIN for a combination of young player(s), expiring contract(s) and draft pick(s). He's a very good shooter, has improved his 3-point shooting in recent years, slashes, gets to the line and makes his FTs. The guy can still light it up - he scored 37 in his last game prior to the wrist injury. The timing is good as it looks like he's healed and ready to come back:

"Kevin Martin (wrist) and Nikola Pekovic (ankle) were full participants in practice on Monday.
It's clear that Martin's wrist injury is healthy and he should be ready to go soon. There is talk of Martin going through a D-League stint, but the loss of Shabazz Muhammad (abdominal) may change that. If Martin is available, he's worth a look in standard leagues. Jan 12 - 2:36 PM"

He seems to have fallen off the map in MIN, but the season before last he came off the bench and averaged 14 ppg for OKC. Last year he averaged 19.1 ppg and was averaging 20.4ppg through nine games this year before the injury. He continues to average over 20 PTS/36 for his career. I'd love to see him in an instant offense off the bench role. He'd certainly address our bench scoring issue. And, I bet he'd embrace that role, on a contender, as opposed to rotting away in the arctic loserville of MIN.

The ONLY drawback is the length of his contract. The dollars are reasonable (~$7 million/year), but it runs through 2016-17 (player option).

BNM

 

[Scalma]

Afflalo would be amazing. I'd include the pick, why not?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Of all the trade suggestions put out there, Afflalo is the one guy that I'd like to see as a 6 man off the bench. I'd trade CJ TRob plus change for him. Not sure I'd include the pick.

I'm quite certain that the Nuggets would insist upon it. And considering we're shooting for a title, I think it's the kind of move you have to make.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I agree that I would much rather have Afflalo then Chandler. I think the price would have to be higher though and I not even keen on giving them the price they are probably asking for the one so doubt either gets done.

Kevin Martin gets hurt a lot and really doesn't shoot as well as he used to (some might be the injuries). I think if Olshey wants to dip into the cap space next year that he goes real big instead of a tweak. Otherwise he doesn't dip into the cap space at all imo.

 

[B-Roy]

Kevin Martin excites me way more than Afflalo and Chandler. He's got a history of being efficient as well as coming off the bench.

 

[magnifier661]

Or, we need another reliable shooter so that we have a lower probability of all of our shooters being cold at the same time. I wish Afflalo were available at a price we could afford. Is Olshey savvy enough to convince them to take McCollum/TRob/#1?

Now Afflalo would be the "slam dunk" acquisition! He can take it inside, post up, shoot from the perimeter and defend somewhat efficiently. I would give up McCollum, Crabbe, and T. Rob for him. And if Denver really wanted to play hardball, I would even give them our first rounder to boot

 

[magnifier661]

What about Kevin Martin. I'm sure we could get him from MIN for a combination of young player(s), expiring contract(s) and draft pick(s). He's a very good shooter, has improved his 3-point shooting in recent years, slashes, gets to the line and makes his FTs. The guy can still light it up - he scored 37 in his last game prior to the wrist injury. The timing is good as it looks like he's healed and ready to come back:

"Kevin Martin (wrist) and Nikola Pekovic (ankle) were full participants in practice on Monday.
It's clear that Martin's wrist injury is healthy and he should be ready to go soon. There is talk of Martin going through a D-League stint, but the loss of Shabazz Muhammad (abdominal) may change that. If Martin is available, he's worth a look in standard leagues. Jan 12 - 2:36 PM"

He seems to have fallen off the map in MIN, but the season before last he came off the bench and averaged 14 ppg for OKC. Last year he averaged 19.1 ppg and was averaging 20.4ppg through nine games this year before the injury. He continues to average over 20 PTS/36 for his career. I'd love to see him in an instant offense off the bench role. He'd certainly address our bench scoring issue. And, I bet he'd embrace that role, on a contender, as opposed to rotting away in the arctic loserville of MIN.

The ONLY drawback is the length of his contract. The dollars are reasonable (~$7 million/year), but it runs through 2016-17 (player option).

BNM

He is another player I would be seriously open to. I think getting to the line and slashing is so important. We really only have Lillard with that capability right now. We need just one more player to help from the bench

 

[GoBlazersGo]

Now Afflalo would be the "slam dunk" acquisition! He can take it inside, post up, shoot from the perimeter and defend somewhat efficiently. I would give up McCollum, Crabbe, and T. Rob for him. And if Denver really wanted to play hardball, I would even give them our first rounder to boot

Would love to see Olshey make a move for Afflalo! I'd definitely give up Robinson, McCollum OR Crabbe, & our first rounder to get it done.

I think Afflalo would be a STRONG addition... it'd basically be like adding a Wesley Matthews to our bench

 

[Boob-No-More]

Kevin Martin gets hurt a lot and really doesn't shoot as well as he used to (some might be the injuries). I think if Olshey wants to dip into the cap space next year that he goes real big instead of a tweak. Otherwise he doesn't dip into the cap space at all imo.

He mostly suffers nagging injuries when asked to start and play a lot of minutes. He was healthy and played 77 games for OKC two seasons ago at 27.7 MPG - more than he'd be asked to do in Portland. Last year, he was a starter and averaged 32.0 MPG in 68 games for MIN - again WAY more minutes than he'd be required to play in POR.

His 3-point shooting has actually improved with age. Coming off the bench in OKC, he averaged 14.0 ppg on 10.1 FGA. That's pretty damn efficient. Last year, he was 19.1 ppg on 15.0 FGA and this year (I know, limited sample size), he was a very impressive 20.4 ppg on 13.3 FGA. For the last 2+ seasons (one coming off the bench on a contender) he's averaged 1.33 PTS/FGA. Just to give you an idea how efficient that is, Damian Lillard and, to a lesser extent, Wesley Matthews are both having break out seasons. Dame is currently averaging 1.36 PTS/FGA and Wes is averaging 1.32. So, Martin gives us another scorer that's every bit as efficient as our starting backcourt, and is WAY more efficient than Batum (1.04 PTS/FGA or any guard/wing we currently have coming off our bench). I'd LOVE to see that kind of scoring efficiency off our bench.

He also has the length to back up both the 2 and 3 positions - which is exactly what he did in OKC.

We're in win now mode. We have a window. I say we add Martin now, keep our core together, resign them all next summer, which will put us over the cap, and then use the MLE next summer to add another piece to the bench. And, if we make a deep playoff run this season, ring shopping veterans will be lining up to take our MLE.

BNM

 

[Scalma]

I'm down for martin. I'm guessing any possible trade would involve some combination of the same players/draft pick so I'm on board with any of it

 

[magnifier661]

So I looked and I think Denver would consider this deal, with the addition of our first rounder.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=oh2yd76

As for the K-Mart concept... I think Minny would rather have Crabbe, McCollum and T. Rob. I don't think they need the first rounder in this scenario.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=q24h9ln

 

[magnifier661]

He mostly suffers nagging injuries when asked to start and play a lot of minutes. He was healthy and played 77 games for OKC two seasons ago at 27.7 MPG - more than he'd be asked to do in Portland. Last year, he was a starter and averaged 32.0 MPG in 68 games for MIN - again WAY more minutes than he'd be required to play in POR.

His 3-point shooting has actually improved with age. Coming off the bench in OKC, he averaged 14.0 ppg on 10.1 FGA. That's pretty damn efficient. Last year, he was 19.1 ppg on 15.0 FGA and this year (I know, limited sample size), he was a very impressive 20.4 ppg on 13.3 FGA. For the last 2+ seasons (one coming off the bench on a contender) he's averaged 1.33 PTS/FGA. Just to give you an idea how efficient that is, Damian Lillard and, to a lesser extent, Wesley Matthews are both having break out seasons. Dame is currently averaging 1.36 PTS/FGA and Wes is averaging 1.32. So, Martin gives us another scorer that's every bit as efficient as our starting backcourt, and is WAY more efficient than Batum (1.04 PTS/FGA or any guard/wing we currently have coming off our bench). I'd LOVE to see that kind of scoring efficiency off our bench.

He also has the length to back up both the 2 and 3 positions - which is exactly what he did in OKC.

We're in win now mode. We have a window. I say we add Martin now, keep our core together, resign them all next summer, which will put us over the cap, and then use the MLE next summer to add another piece to the bench. And, if we make a deep playoff run this season, ring shopping veterans will be lining up to take our MLE.

BNM

What really jumps out at me more than his shooting is his attempts at the line. Even this season (small sample size obviously), he's averaging 5.3 attempts per game. He has a career line of 6 a game, so this isn't anything out of the norm. What this means is him having the ability to get to the line and draw fouls. Something our team isn't efficient in as a team. Doing this can give us points when shots aren't falling. And I wouldn't be surprised if he could be a 12 point scorer off the bench on 10-12 FGA per game.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

For the record I am down with Martin. He gets banged up a lot though.

I rank them Martin > Afflalo > Stay Pat > Chandler

Afflalo is real close to Martin though due to not getting as injured and his contract ending 1 year sooner.

 

[magnifier661]

For the record I am down with Martin. He gets banged up a lot though.

I rank them Martin > Afflalo > Stay Pat > Chandler

Afflalo is real close to Martin though due to not getting as injured and his contract ending 1 year sooner.

Also, Afflalo has played on an inside out pass friendly offense in Orlando.

 

[Pinwheel1]

What about Kevin Martin.

The ONLY drawback is the length of his contract. The dollars are reasonable (~$7 million/year), but it runs through 2016-17 (player option).

BNM

I am a little surprised to see he is turning 32 in 3 weeks. I would have guest 28 or 29. I actually like that his contract runs for another 2 years. I don't want to trade young players for a half year rental. But he sure lit it up the last two games he played back in November. His defense still sucks though. I would rather commit minutes to to Crabbe.

 

[Schilly]

I think with the additions Houston and Memphis have made.... and waiting to see how Waiters works in OKC too, Portland needs to seriously considering making a consolidation trade for a 6th man.

 

[magnifier661]

I am a little surprised to see he is turning 32 in 3 weeks. I would have guest 28 or 29. I actually like that his contract runs for another 2 years. I don't want to trade young players for a half year rental. But he sure lit it up the last two games he played back in November. His defense still sucks though. I would rather commit minutes to to Crabbe.

I agree. I think this summer won't really be anything "WOW" in terms of acquisitions. Maybe an MLE player and resigning all the current talent. I am all on board with that. Having Afflalo or Martin locked for another year would be a Godsend actually.

 

[magnifier661]

Another thing that would be cool with getting Martin. He has played for Houston and OKC. I think he would take extra effort to show them what they are missing.

 

[santeesioux]

What is Kevin Martin's contract situation?

 

[Scalma]

Order of preference for me: Afflalo, Chandler, Martin. If Martin was younger/more durable he'd be higher.

 

[magnifier661]

What is Kevin Martin's contract situation?

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/minnesota.htm

2014/15: 6.79 mil
2015/16: 7.09 mil
2016/17: 7.3 mil

 

[santeesioux]

I thought it would be more than that, actually.

 

[magnifier661]

I thought it would be more than that, actually.

Yeah it's exactly the same contract as Afflalo, with the exception of a "team option" after this season.

 

[Eastoff]

Yeah it's exactly the same contract as Afflalo, with the exception of a "team option" after this season.

It looks like gold to me.

 

[magnifier661]

It looks like gold to me.

Yeah, 7-8 mil for a legit 6th man is definitely reasonable. This could be the start of the open wallet Allen Blazers!

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

K-Mart has missed a ton of games over his career.

Over the 840 possible games he has played 629 of them, and he is 31.

 

[tester551]

He's playing in 75% of the games. Not great, but not terrible either.

 

[Boob-No-More]

K-Mart has missed a ton of games over his career.

Over the 840 possible games he has played 629 of them, and he is 31.

Did you miss the part where he played 77 games at 27.2 MPG the season before last and 68 games at 32.0 MPG last season. The guy breaks down with nagging, non-career threatening injuries if he's called on to play too many minutes. Give him 20 minutes off the bench and he'll be fine.

In spite of his age, his production remains as high as ever. He has averaged 20.9 PTS/36 for his career, was at 21.5 PTS/36 last season and 24.7 PTS/36 this year (small sample size) before the wrist injury. We're not looking for a No. 1 option, or even a starter. We need a guy who can give us reliable bench scoring and Martin can do that.

BNM

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Missing a quarter of your career is a pretty big red flag, especially after 30.

Wilson Chandler's injuries concern me as well.

I'm just a spurned Blazer fan though...