With Cho in place and Matthews hopefully official, what now? (1 Viewer)

[Natebishop3]

Do we finally make a trade?

God I hope so...

 

[Mediocre Man]

Do we finally make a trade?

God I hope so...

We certainly need to

 

[THE HCP]

Everybody stays healthy and Cho wins GM of the year!

 

[andalusian]

I think that after all this activity, they need some time off, maybe go to a picnic or something.

 

[Blazer_Hippie]

I think that after all this activity, they need some time off, maybe go to a picnic or something.

Picnic at my house...tomorrow!

 

[Natebishop3]

Everybody stays healthy and Cho wins GM of the year!

HCP do you really think we're going into training camp with seven guards?

Roy
Miller
Rudy
Williams
Matthews
Bayless
Johnson
Mills

Yeah, Johnson and Mills aren't under contract, but I think we're going to hold onto one or both of them, seeing as Bayless and Williams aren't really point guards.

 

[THE HCP]

HCP do you really think we're going into training camp with seven guards?

Roy
Miller
Rudy
Williams
Matthews
Bayless
Johnson
Mills

Yeah, Johnson and Mills aren't under contract, but I think we're going to hold onto one or both of them, seeing as Bayless and Williams aren't really point guards.

I honestly think Bayless is going nowhere. He is our backup SG. You can't get anything back for Rudy because he makes so little. Unless a big 3 for 1 type thing. I'm hearing that Nate and the staff are really high on Matthews. I don't really think the rookies have any impact this year whatsoever. I think Armon has impressed, but do you really see him on the court this year? NBDL is calling. Bye Bye Patty!

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I honestly think Bayless is going nowhere. He is our backup SG. You can't get anything back for Rudy because he makes so little. Unless a big 3 for 1 type thing. I'm hearing that Nate and the staff are really high on Matthews. I don't really think the rookies have any impact this year whatsoever. I think Armon has impressed, but do you really see him on the court this year? NBDL is calling. Bye Bye Patty!

Do you think Bayless is better than Matthews? Matthews should be our backup SG and SF. Package Rudy and Bayless and maybe someone else for something. And I think Johnson would be a better backup PG than Bayless.

 

[THE HCP]

Do you think Bayless is better than Matthews? Matthews should be our backup SG and SF. Package Rudy and Bayless and maybe someone else for something. And I think Johnson would be a better backup PG than Bayless.

Yes. If you combined the 2 players he would be perfect! Bayless is an offensive minded balls out player. Matthews more defensive minded. We need both, but doesn't everybody on here complain about us NOT scoring and getting the ball up and down the court? Wes is 6'5", he is NOT a SF!

 

[hasoos]

I think that by having Wes at SF it gives Nate a lot of options. I hate the fact, but it is a fact, that Nate is a matchup coach. The best thing you can do for your matchup coaches is give them options. By having Wes, Batum and Babbit, you have options. Last year with all the injuries and certain players playing like shit, Nate didn't have a lot of options. Now he does.

 

[Natebishop3]

Sorry, but depth can breed discontent. Especially young depth. It's extremely hard to get people to buy into, and Nate was starting to lose control last season until the plague put us in the lurch.

 

[Idog1976]

Do you think Bayless is better than Matthews? Matthews should be our backup SG and SF. Package Rudy and Bayless and maybe someone else for something. And I think Johnson would be a better backup PG than Bayless.

We definitely need a consolidation trade at this point. How that looks is anyone's guess. Seems to me we need another back up 4/5 and of course the ever elusive PGOTF!

 

[Idog1976]

Sorry, but depth can breed discontent. Especially young depth. It's extremely hard to get people to buy into, and Nate was starting to lose control last season until the plague put us in the lurch.

I agree with you. We either need veterans who are on the downslope like Prince that I believed you advocated for in another thread or youngsters who have accepted a role player attitude. One exception would be PG where I think youth is an asset.

 

[hasoos]

Sorry, but depth can breed discontent. Especially young depth. It's extremely hard to get people to buy into, and Nate was starting to lose control last season until the plague put us in the lurch.

Which is why I say you want 7 to 8 good players with some versatile guys who can play multiple positions well, and the rest of the guys are just happy to be in the league. That is how you make a happy team. As opposed to having a spanish guard who plays no positions well, and just bitches all the time, without taking a break from it.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I think that by having Wes at SF it gives Nate a lot of options. I hate the fact, but it is a fact, that Nate is a matchup coach. The best thing you can do for your matchup coaches is give them options. By having Wes, Batum and Babbit, you have options. Last year with all the injuries and certain players playing like shit, Nate didn't have a lot of options. Now he does.

Matchup Coach, my a$$. In the playoffs in Phoenix, they put Nash on Batum. Instead of going to Batum, we struggled. Against Phoenix, we should go straight at Nash, he's really terrible at D. Argggh.

"Thanks for bringing up such a painful memory, next time why don't you just give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice in it, We're Closed!"
(Oops, wrong thread!)

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Cho said that we are still "one or two pieces away" from competing for a championship. So, to answer the OP, more trades are apparently up next.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Cho said that we are still "one or two pieces away" from competing for a championship. So, to answer the OP, more trades are apparently up next.

I am so happy we have someone who isn't so attached to his guys.

 

[RoyToy]

Cho said that we are still "one or two pieces away" from competing for a championship. So, to answer the OP, more trades are apparently up next.

He also basically said he isn't going to trade just to trade and make moves.

 

[Blazinaway]

Do you think Bayless is better than Matthews? Matthews should be our backup SG and SF. Package Rudy and Bayless and maybe someone else for something. And I think Johnson would be a better backup PG than Bayless.

Rudy and bayless for Turiaf, there a backup PF/C

 

[craigehlo]

He also basically said he isn't going to trade just to trade and make moves.

Which is the oldest cliche in the book. It's a throw away quote.

He going to be working hard to upgrade at PG.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I am so happy we have someone who isn't so attached to his guys.

Apparently, he's developed advanced computer modeling software to do player evaluation, which I assume he'll use to evaluate our current players.....

or he'll just look at their PER

 

[hasoos]

Matchup Coach, my a$$. In the playoffs in Phoenix, they put Nash on Batum. Instead of going to Batum, we struggled. Against Phoenix, we should go straight at Nash, he's really terrible at D. Argggh.

"Thanks for bringing up such a painful memory, next time why don't you just give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice in it, We're Closed!"
(Oops, wrong thread!)

Matchup coaches react to what others do, not dictate the matchups. They are reactors. The Avory Johnsons as opposed to the Don Nelsons. Nate put Batum out there in reaction to what Steve Nash was doing. Now if Nate was a coach that dictated, rather than reacted, he would have done something like going big in order to make Phoenix adjust. But he couldn't, because Batum had pretty much no experience as being a focal part of the offense. Slash? Yes. Catch and shoot? Yes. Main ball handler, post up opposing PG, etc? Never in the NBA before the playoffs last year. Fat chance of it happening in the playoffs under Nate.

 

[RoyToy]

Which is the oldest cliche in the book. It's a throw away quote.

He going to be working hard to upgrade at PG.

Saying it is one thing, yes. Let's hope he actually believes in it.

 

[mook]

Matchup coaches react to what others do, not dictate the matchups. They are reactors. The Avory Johnsons as opposed to the Don Nelsons. Nate put Batum out there in reaction to what Steve Nash was doing. Now if Nate was a coach that dictated, rather than reacted, he would have done something like going big in order to make Phoenix adjust. But he couldn't, because Batum had pretty much no experience as being a focal part of the offense. Slash? Yes. Catch and shoot? Yes. Main ball handler, post up opposing PG, etc? Never in the NBA before the playoffs last year. Fat chance of it happening in the playoffs under Nate.

Yep, when Batum came back from injury last year, he needed about 10 games just to get back in rhythm. Then there were only 27 or so games left in the season, and it's a little late in the year to start throwing wrinkles into the offense. So Batum never really had a chance to develop his offensive game last year.

Then the playoffs came around and Batum is basically playing with one shoulder. And he's trying to guard an elite point guard on the defensive end. And that's the time we should decide to start making him a key part of the offense?

I really don't think it was bad coaching that kept us from exploiting Nash. It was just tough circumstances.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Yep, when Batum came back from injury last year, he needed about 10 games just to get back in rhythm. Then there were only 27 or so games left in the season, and it's a little late in the year to start throwing wrinkles into the offense. So Batum never really had a chance to develop his offensive game last year.

Then the playoffs came around and Batum is basically playing with one shoulder. And he's trying to guard an elite point guard on the defensive end. And that's the time we should decide to start making him a key part of the offense?

I really don't think it was bad coaching that kept us from exploiting Nash. It was just tough circumstances.

That's cool, as long as Batum is being asked to do thing this offseason to change that.

 

[BGrantFan]

Apparently, he's developed advanced computer modeling software to do player evaluation, which I assume he'll use to evaluate our current players.....

or he'll just look at their PER

How many titles did this guy win as an assistant GM? Did his computer models tell him that Presti should draft Kevin Durant over Al Horford?

 

[BGrantFan]

Did Cho's trusty software tell him that Robert Swift was the pick over Al Jefferson and Josh Smith?

I'm fascinated by his software!

 

[Mediocre Man]

Did Cho's trusty software tell him that Robert Swift was the pick over Al Jefferson and Josh Smith?

I'm fascinated by his software!

No kidding. Thank God KP never made a draft mistake.

 

[RoyToy]

No kidding. Thank God KP never made a draft mistake.

This thread is about Rich Cho?

 

[Wizard Mentor]

How many titles did this guy win as an assistant GM? Did his computer models tell him that Presti should draft Kevin Durant over Al Horford?

Thank you for you eloquent elucidation on the merits of computer-based vs. subjective modeling of nba draft candidates.
/sarcasm