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Rastapopoulos said:
It's true that you couldn't really play him and Leonard at the same time (without being killed). He would probably work best in Memphis, as they have kind of a unique style.
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I think he would be good in Philly too as they need a floor spacer really bad but they already have Saric.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Delon Wright getting more love. Kevon Looney too.
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Neil is going to earn his money this summer for sure. He needs to come through for us. I have gone on record as liking Delon based on our need for D, and how he would fit with CJ and Dame, but damn there are some other intriguing option out there and Looney is one of them. UCLA player often bloom in the NBA after their 1-2 year college careers. They are often highly rated out of HS. Looney is no exception.
 
I'm not sold on Looney. He reminds me of Darius Miles.
 
MickZagger said:
I'm not sold on Looney. He reminds me of Darius Miles.
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A Darius Miles without the injuries, the off court issues, and the pouting on the court sounds pretty good to me. To be honest I am not completely convinced he is our best option, but I like his 7'1" wing span and his athletic ability. With all the stretch 4's around it would be nice to have someone with his ability to defend them on the perimeter. He can guard a couple of positions. I would not be pissed if they called his name at 23. But he does come with a risk since he is only 19 and still needs to improve his shot.
 
Again props on the terrific research. Did we arrive at a consensus as to the type of player most likely to pan out?

Reading about these guys more, I'm getting intrigued by Justin Anderson. These solid jack of all trades kinda guys from big programs always interest me late in the first round, but Rasta's first two posts in this thread suggest that you're more likely to find success if you go international or swing for the fences on a guy that has dropped.

So... Upshaw? He apparently has SERIOUS character issues. It's not just weed like Klay, et al.
Hernangomes perhaps? Or Wright? nbadraft.net has him dropping to 27.
 
Here's what nbadraft had on Butler:

Strengths: A well-rounded forward with great qualities for a future role-player ... Solid athlete with nice overall quickness ... Great length ... Extremely active on both ends of the court ... Impressive player in transition ... Uses his good strength and body control to finish plays around the rim ... Doesn't need to dominate the basketball to be effective offensively ... Shows good instincts cutting to the rim ... Catches the defense off-guard with a lot of backdoor cuts ... Confident spot-up shooter, that does a lot of damage in the mid-range ... Developed a solid pull up jumpshot as a senior ... Aggressive when looking for contact ... Shot 6.5 free throws a game in the 2010-2011 season on a very respectable 78.3% clip ... An efficient passer (1.59 assist/turnover) that has the ability to make the simple plays to set up his teammates ... Highly unselfish ... Makes a big impact on the offensive glass, keeping possessions alive and getting a lot of tip-ins ... Tough defender with all the tools needed to become very valuable in this area ... Gets a lot of deflections with his long arms ... Smart kid with a good head on his shoulders and a strong work-ethic ...

Weaknesses: Good all-around player, but lacks any one great skill... Fits the "jack of all trades, master of none" mold ... Not a stand-out athlete ... Hasn't proven that he can consistently create offense for himself ... Not an isolation player, feeds off the play of his teammates ... Could really open up his game by adding range to his jump shot ... Hasn't shown that he can be a consistent threat from behind the arc ...
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Anderson:

Strengths: Smart player with a good basketball IQ ... Physical specimen (6-foot-6, 225-pound frame) ... NBA-ready body and good size ... Possesses elite athleticism and has good length (6’11 wingspan) ... Outstanding leaper ... Skilled and explosive wing player ... Does a little bit of everything ... Is tireless, a hard worker and has a high motor ... Versatile and well-rounded player (could play either SG or SF at the next level) ... Strong and powerful ... A slasher ... Capable of scoring the ball from the 3-point line, mid-range, and in the paint ... Improved drastically from the 3-point line this past season (29 percent as a sophomore and 45 percent as a junior) ... Scored very well in a low scoring offense ... Good catch and shooter ... Can space the floor ... Improving mid-range jumper ... Has good mechanics and elevation on his jumper ... Smooth and fluid release ... Generates most of his offensive opportunities within the flow of offense ... Has shown the ability to muscle his way to the rim and finish strong ... Absorbs body contact from defenders in the paint ... Can play above the rim ... More of a straight line drive and finisher ... Has a quick first step that allows him to effectively attack closeouts ... Can knock down clutch shots ... Strong with the ball in transition and can finish ... Runs well on fast breaks ... Unselfish teammate who is willing to pass ... Above average passer ... Best at passing when he finds teammates in transition by drawing defenders into the paint and passing the ball to open players at the basket ... He can pass the ball effectively around the perimeter, dish to teammates of the dribble, and make post-entry passes ... Stout defensive player who gives great effort ... Versatile defender ... Can guard multiple positions ... Has the strength to defend bigger players in the post ... Has the foot speed and quickness to defend quicker players on the perimeter ... Great lateral quickness ... Impressive shot blocker for his size (really good at chasing down blocks on the break) ... Upper body strength allows him to run through screens ... He can secure rebounds in traffic ... Can play the passing lanes effectively with his length ... Frequently rises above the rim for putback dunks ... Does not shy away from contact ... Can body up big men inside and outside the paint ...

Weaknesses: Jack of all trades, master of none. He’s good at many aspects of the game, but doesn’t excel in one particular area ... Ball-handling abilities can improve ... Lack of ball-handling skills limits his ability to create for himself on offense ... Does not engage his defender with advanced moves or fakes ... Relies on his teammates to get him open looks more than he should ... Has shown his ability to be a playmaker for his teammates, but needs to show that he can do it more often (averaged 1.8 assists per game during collegiate career) ... Needs to continue to work on developing consistency in his jumper. Somewhat unproven ... Lacks a soft touch around the rim ... Needs to work on dribble penetration and finishing at the rim with his right hand more ... Needs to develop a more consistent pull-up game ... Despite his athleticism and length, he hasn’t put up the kind of rebounding numbers one would expect ... Does not get to the free throw line as much ... Sometimes forces up contested or bad shots around the basket ... Would rather use his athleticism to go up for boards than getting in position and boxing out ... Can sometimes get caught sleeping on defense, resulting in him being out of position...
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Seems similar, no? Butler went #30 in 2011.
 
The player that they're calling jack of all trades master of none this time is Bobby Portis. He also has a 30 PER.
 
I was really starting to fall for Vezenkov, just because I love players that are super-smart, even though he has a non-NBA-player's body.
 
I don't know that we can really predict the pick because there'll be a lot of options left in this draft. If you want to go draft-and-stash then Hernangomez is the guy. If he's our pick then the aim is probably to maximize cap room for moves in July. If you want to swing for the fences, then Upshaw is it. If we want a rotation player who will contribute soon, it's probably Anderson. I don't see Delon Wright or Montrezl Harrell myself.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I don't know that we can really predict the pick because there'll be a lot of options left in this draft. If you want to go draft-and-stash then Hernangomez is the guy. If he's our pick then the aim is probably to maximize cap room for moves in July. If you want to swing for the fences, then Upshaw is it. If we want a rotation player who will contribute soon, it's probably Anderson. I don't see Delon Wright or Montrezl Harrell myself.
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You dont like Wright? He would cover CJs deficiencies perfectly. Didnt we just see Shaun Livingston play a pivotal role in the finals? Wright is a lot like him tho
 
Wright's certainly a possibility, but I just don't get that vibe from him. I think he's a "lead guard" - i.e., somebody who needs the ball a lot and isn't one to stand in the corner and bury a three. CJ isn't a PG, but he needs the ball to be effective (mostly) so a "tall PG" playing next to him would have to be low-usage and a spot-up shooter. It helps that Wright is tall and allegedly a good defender, but those aren't the only qualities necessary. (And his own brother was critical of his "handle".)
 
Also: although I like Livingston a lot, he had one of the lowest WARPs on the Warriors in the finals.

 
With all the possible options, why do I have the bad feeling the team is thinking "project big man"??
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I don't know that we can really predict the pick because there'll be a lot of options left in this draft. If you want to go draft-and-stash then Hernangomez is the guy. If he's our pick then the aim is probably to maximize cap room for moves in July. If you want to swing for the fences, then Upshaw is it. If we want a rotation player who will contribute soon, it's probably Anderson. I don't see Delon Wright or Montrezl Harrell myself.
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we would have a half million cap hold on that roster spot instead of paying a rook $1M. $500K won't make the FO draft a stash guy.
 
Harrell is pretty much what we hoped trob would be. If he's there I'd think hard about it because he offers that rebounding and post defense no one else on our bench really does and he could play with Leonard.
 
McCullough would've went higher if he didn't tear his ACL. Still, he's years away from being an impact player. He's a pure PF that currently weighs 199 lbs.

As the draft nears there are only a few fast risers (Brown/Vaughn). I still believe Delon Wright/Willy Hernangomez should be the pick.

....if we don't trade up.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
McCullough would've went higher if he didn't tear his ACL. Still, he's years away from being an impact player. He's a pure PF that currently weighs 199 lbs.

As the draft nears there are only a few fast risers (Brown/Vaughn). I still believe Delon Wright/Willy Hernangomez should be the pick.

....if we don't trade up.
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What about the Turkish dude?
 
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