With the #7 pick, the Portland Trail Blazers select....

[LayneStaley]

Duren makes the most since, we haven’t had an athletic big like that in a very long time. He fills a need and a wish(from Dame). Why would we draft small at 7 when size is a major weakness. Sharpe, Mathurin, Griffin all feel repetitive to me. We have zero physicality on this team, none. Draft Duren and watch him destroy the offensive glass and protect the middle.

 

[Hoopguru]

Good evaluation of Duren

https://www.detroitbadboys.com/plat...-every-shot-assist-turnover-steal-and-rebound

 

[swish3]

Draft Keegan Murray at 7. He is a success machine who played with great determination to win the Big 10 for Iowa! He will be excellent in continuing to develop (as he did from his freshman to his sophomore year) and bringing the energy level that Chauncey needs to contend.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Draft Keegan Murray at 7. He is a success machine who played with great determination to win the Big 10 for Iowa! He will be excellent in continuing to develop (as he did from his freshman to his sophomore year) and bringing the energy level that Chauncey needs to contend.

He’d be a good fit, but there are a few boxes he doesn’t check

1. Not a high risk guy that Cronin likes

2. Won’t be there at 7

 

[Blazinaway]

Draft Keegan Murray at 7. He is a success machine who played with great determination to win the Big 10 for Iowa! He will be excellent in continuing to develop (as he did from his freshman to his sophomore year) and bringing the energy level that Chauncey needs to contend.

would love to draft him there, he might not be there

 

[Blazinaway]

My pick is still Duren, especially now that we’re at 7.

I have changed my mind, going Mark Willams over Duren, incredible measurements from combine, 2" more standing reach than Gobert,! likely better mobility and he has great timing, could be looking at a multiple DPOY or all league Defensive C, and has already proven himself in college ball. Not saying we draft a C but if we did I'd take him over Duren and am hearing a lot more Top 10 talk about Williams.

 

[Ripcity4life77]

I have an idea but not sure it's possible so any CBA people chime in if my idea is DOA on arrival for that fact.

Can the Blazers trade a lesser contract player for a TPE and a pick like let's say a team only 1 to 2 spots ahead of the Blazers have a TPE that could handle -- example w/o destination team ---

-- Blazers trade Keon Johnson and 7th pick for pick # and a TPE

Only mention it cause let's say the Blazers fall in love with Murrey from Iowa so try and trade ahead of the team prolly going to select him

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I have an idea but not sure it's possible so any CBA people chime in if my idea is DOA on arrival for that fact.

Can the Blazers trade a lesser contract player for a TPE and a pick like let's say a team only 1 to 2 spots ahead of the Blazers have a TPE that could handle -- example w/o destination team ---

-- Blazers trade Keon Johnson and 7th pick for pick # and a TPE

Only mention it cause let's say the Blazers fall in love with Murrey from Iowa so try and trade ahead of the team prolly going to select him

Well, the Pistons don't have any TPE's, so we wouldn't be able to make such a deal with them. The Kings at 4 have a $4M TPE, but I don't think Keon would be enough to justify a 3 spot swap.

But to answer simply, yes that could happen.

 

[Hoopguru]

I have changed my mind, going Mark Willams over Duren, incredible measurements from combine, 2" more standing reach than Gobert,! likely better mobility and he has great timing, could be looking at a multiple DPOY or all league Defensive C, and has already proven himself in college ball. Not saying we draft a C but if we did I'd take him over Duren and am hearing a lot more Top 10 talk about Williams.

He was one of the most consistent players in the tourney too.

 

[MickZagger]

I have changed my mind, going Mark Willams over Duren, incredible measurements from combine, 2" more standing reach than Gobert,! likely better mobility and he has great timing, could be looking at a multiple DPOY or all league Defensive C, and has already proven himself in college ball. Not saying we draft a C but if we did I'd take him over Duren and am hearing a lot more Top 10 talk about Williams.

Yeah I’m not buying the hype on Duren. He’s a physical freak, but just doesn’t really seem to have a great feel for the game. And unless a center is able to alter the paint with shot blocking ability in todays NBA there is really no need.

 

[theprunetang]

Yeah I’m not buying the hype on Duren. He’s a physical freak, but just doesn’t really seem to have a great feel for the game. And unless a center is able to alter the paint with shot blocking ability in todays NBA there is really no need.

I compare Duren to Mitchell Robinson of the Knicks. That is not a 7th pick.

 

[Propagandist]

I think he could end being as good or even better than Booker yes. He is already better than CJ he just has to maintain it.

This doesn’t seem right.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

This doesn’t seem right.

Yeah, CJ's advanced numbers were better pretty much across the board, even in Ant's "breakout" season. Ant has a better 3P%... that's about it.

 

[wizenheimer]

Yeah, CJ's advanced numbers were better pretty much across the board, even in Ant's "breakout" season. Ant has a better 3P%... that's about it.

agreed

as much as I didn't like CJ's game...or rather, his game mixed with Dame...at least CJ established and proved himself over several hundred games. He had established norms that Ant has only matched for a stretch of a couple of dozen games. And, CJ established those norms while sharing the court with Dame. That's something Ant hasn't done yet, and in fact, when CJ came back from the punctured lung and started alongside Ant, it seemed to knock Ant out of his rhythm quite a bit.

I'm hopeful for Simons. I'm even hopeful, with some reservations, for a better mesh between Dame and Simons than Dame and CJ ever had. But a 25 game stretch is fairly weak confirmation of an established game. At this point, there's quite a bit of hype behind Ant and it's unclear if the hype is justified

 

[JDC]

I compare Duren to Mitchell Robinson of the Knicks. That is not a 7th pick.

Duren is more skilled facing the basket, much better passer.

 

[tykendo]

I trade Simons/ '25 pick from Bucks in a sign and trade, for Grant and the #5. Simons is the perfect 2 guard next to Cunningham. Grant is no longer in Detroit's plans and makes too much money. He only gets in the way of Stewart & Beys development. Then i draft Keegan Murray with the #5, and Bennedict Mathurin with the #7 pick. You have a lineup of Nurk, Grant/Murray (depending on readiness), Nas, Mathurin, & Dame. You have Hart(6th man, extended minutes), Ingles, and Murray/Grant in your shortened 8 man rotation. Re-sign Eubanks to back up Nurk, and pick between Watford, Winslow, Williams, Elleby, and whoever you sign as a sharpshooter in free agency for the extended rotation during the regular season. The only way i trade the #7 pick is for John Collins, PERIOD! Grant is a nice role player, nothing more.

 

[RR7]

I trade Simons/ '25 pick from Bucks in a sign and trade, for Grant and the #5. Simons is the perfect 2 guard next to Cunningham. Grant is no longer in Detroit's plans and makes too much money. He only gets in the way of Stewart & Beys development. Then i draft Keegan Murray with the #5, and Bennedict Mathurin with the #7 pick. You have a lineup of Nurk, Grant/Murray (depending on readiness), Nas, Mathurin, & Dame. You have Hart(6th man, extended), Ingles, and Murray/Grant in your shortened 8 man rotation. Re-sign Eubanks to back up Nurk, and pick between Watford, Winslow, Williams, Elleby, and whoever you sign as a sharpshooter in free agency for the extended rotation during the regular season. The only way i trade the #7 pick is for John Collins, PERIOD! Grant is a nice role player, nothing more.

Can't S&T Simons until after the draft is over. At that point, it would look like obvious collusion if that swap was made.

 

[tykendo]

Can't S&T Simons until after the draft is over. At that point, it would look like obvious collusion if that swap was made.

I think collusion has been standard operating procedure in the NBA for years.

 

[RR7]

I think collusion has been standard operating procedure in the NBA for years.

Yet you never see a S&T with a recent pick.

 

[tykendo]

A trade of our pick for John Collins couldn't be done either till after as well. But there would be an agreement between the Hawks and Blazers before, and then the Blazers would pick the player the Hawks want at #7.

 

[Natebishop3]

A trade of our pick for John Collins couldn't be done either till after as well.

Why?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Why?

I assume he's referring to the fact that the Stepien rule says we have to make the pick first. But of course, once we make the pick, we could trade it that night.

 

[blazerkor]

I assume he's referring to the fact that the Stepien rule says we have to make the pick first. But of course, once we make the pick, we could trade it that night.

We could even agree to and have the media anounce the trade before the draft, it's done all of the time.

 

[RR7]

A trade of our pick for John Collins couldn't be done either till after as well. But there would be an agreement between the Hawks and Blazers before, and then the Blazers would pick the player the Hawks want at #7.

But Collins is under contract. Simons is not.

 

[wizenheimer]

I assume he's referring to the fact that the Stepien rule says we have to make the pick first. But of course, once we make the pick, we could trade it that night.

also, Bledsoe's salary, even if guaranteed, isn't enough to get the trade done during the draft. After the moratorium it would be enough. Obviously the Blazers could add Brown to the trade and make it work, but the 7 for Collins might be enough on it's own

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

A trade of our pick for John Collins couldn't be done either till after as well. But there would be an agreement between the Hawks and Blazers before, and then the Blazers would pick the player the Hawks want at #7.

Incorrect.
Bledsoe + #7 for Collins +16 could happen today if they wanted.

Bledsoe has a '21-'22 salary of $18.1M. Portland can take back up to an additional $5M in salary.
Collins has a '21-'22 salary of $23.0M - so it barely fits under the criteria.

 

[RR7]

Incorrect.
Bledsoe + #7 for Collins +16 could happen today if they wanted.

Bledsoe has a '21-'22 salary of $18.1M. Portland can take back up to an additional $5M in salary.
Collins has a '21-'22 salary of $23.0M - so it barely fits under the criteria.

Good catch.

 

[wizenheimer]

Incorrect.
Bledsoe + #7 for Collins +16 could happen today if they wanted.

Bledsoe has a '21-'22 salary of $18.1M. Portland can take back up to an additional $5M in salary.
Collins has a '21-'22 salary of $23.0M - so it barely fits under the criteria.

you're right about that....for some dumb reason I was using the formula for a tax-team...125%. But since Blazers aren't a tax-team (and wouldn't be after the trade), they can use 5M

 

[illmatic99]

If Atlanta would consider that, I would do it.

The move 16 + TPE for Grant.

Dame/Ant/Grant/Collins/Nurk

with Hart/Little/Winslow off the bench.

Still have MLE to fill the rest of the roster, that is super enticing.

 

[Natebishop3]

If Atlanta would consider that, I would do it.

The move 16 + TPE for Grant.

Dame/Ant/Grant/Collins/Nurk

with Hart/Little/Winslow off the bench.

Still have MLE to fill the rest of the roster, that is super enticing.

Man... I still just have a hard time seeing that team as a true contender. I don't know. Would we really be better off than maybe hitting big with the 7th pick?