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B-Roy said:
Really hope people are prepared when the inevitable 7 for Grant happens. We'll probably get a second or a late first or something else in the deal and people will justify it as being enough value to make up the difference (it's not).
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I'm not down of Cronin like you and a lot of people are. I was happy with the deadline deals even though I thought he might have been able to do a little better than he did. It's pretty obvious that Seattle insisted Cornin's Job 1 was to dismantle the dead-end roster while cutting current and future payroll. He hit his marks and that's very likely why the Vulcans gave him a 4 year contract

but I will be down on him if it's the #7 + the TPE for Grant. That's a massive overpay in my view and if that's what Detroit is demanding he should tell them to pound sand, then fuck off, then drop dead
 
wizenheimer said:
I'm not down of Cronin like you and a lot of people are. I was happy with the deadline deals even though I thought he might have been able to do a little better than he did. It's pretty obvious that Seattle insisted Cornin's Job 1 was to dismantle the dead-end roster while cutting current and future payroll. He hit his marks and that's very likely why the Vulcans gave him a 4 year contract

but I will be down on him if it's the #7 + the TPE for Grant. That's a massive overpay in my view and if that's what Detroit is demanding he should tell them to pound sand, then fuck off, then drop dead
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I just expect disappointment at this point.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'm not down of Cronin like you and a lot of people are. I was happy with the deadline deals even though I thought he might have been able to do a little better than he did. It's pretty obvious that Seattle insisted Cornin's Job 1 was to dismantle the dead-end roster while cutting current and future payroll. He hit his marks and that's very likely why the Vulcans gave him a 4 year contract

but I will be down on him if it's the #7 + the TPE for Grant. That's a massive overpay in my view and if that's what Detroit is demanding he should tell them to pound sand, then fuck off, then drop dead
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Then be resuscitated, and fuck off again.

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blazerkor said:
Almost all of me wants us to build around Dame and even more of me expects that's what's going to happen. So I still think we'll trade 7 either for a vet forward and a mid first rounder in this draft or for two mid firsts. I still think trading 7 for Wood and 17 and then trading 17 and either a future second or more likely (smh) the Bucks 2025 first for Grant is both a great outcome for us and a likely one.

There's this other part of me that thinks we could trade Dame to the Kings, they would send us 4 and send Fox, Harkless and their 2024 first to OKC, the Thunder would send us picks 12 and 30. This would leave us with picks 4, 7, 12 and 30 in the first round and potentially 60M in cap space if we signed our 36th pick to a rookie min contract, signed pick 57 to a two way deal and let Bledsoe, Hart and Nurk walk.

Let's assume that we use the cap space to acquire both Miles Bridges and Deandre Ayton. Assuming we could get both of them in free agency I would draft Sharpe with pick 4. I would take the best PF available at 7... if Murray slipped to that spot then him, if not Murray then Sochran. At 12 we'd just take the BPA and let's say that's Dieng. At 30 and 36 we would need a backup PG and backup Big. I say that's Cockburn (I've just been dying to post anything with Cockburn in it this entire off season but I'd actually go with Orlando Robinson [pick 30] because he's more mobile, still huge and spreads the floor with the three) and Nemhard (pick 36).

I think the roster of Ant, Sharpe, Bridges, Sochran, Ayton, Dieng, Nas, Justise, Robinson, Nemhard, Trendon, Keon, Greg and Didi would be really fun to watch and would have a great chance to get into the playoffs and make some noise as soon as next season and obviously would be built for the future.
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Only thing I don't like about that is us sending same to the kings where he has zero chance of winning a ring ....
 
Dyson Daniels, G/F, G League Ignite
If there was ever actually any doubt, we can put it to rest: Daniels is a lock to come off the board in the top 10, and it may come sooner than you think. Daniels has occupied the No. 8 spot on my big board since its first iteration in December, and much of the NBA shares that affinity. He measured out well at 6' 7.5" in shoes with a 6' 10.5" wingspan, shot the ball better than some expected at his pro day, and was widely regarded as an impressive interview. Daniels’s positional versatility, maturity and productive year in the G League would all seem to be excellent indicators of continued success. He’d have a real chance to start immediately on many lottery teams.


Shaedon Sharpe, SG, Kentucky | Freshman
As I mentioned in Thursday’s column, Sharpe’s name continued to come up in conversation around the combine for various reasons: most of the NBA seems convinced he’ll come off the board in the first six or seven picks, it’s just unclear at this point which teams will actually be comfortable taking the plunge. Sharpe’s overall talent level is obvious, but there were mixed opinions on his pro day. Some teams were put off by the fact he spent much of his allotted time operating at a pretty casual speed. And while his time at Kentucky presumably helped behind the scenes, for better or worse, Sharpe will be the first lottery pick to make the jump to the NBA without logging a college or professional minute since Thon Maker in 2016.

Jeremy Sochan, F, Baylor | Freshman
I thought Sochan had a really impressive pro day on Thursday, showcasing his physicality, skill level and energy in a setting where sometimes that’s a little bit harder to do than you think. He went hard for his entire time, looked to be in excellent shape, and moves exceptionally well for his size. There’s variance of opinion around the NBA on his jump shot, and Sochan didn’t shoot it great in that workout, but his mechanics are workable. I came away feeling fairly good about the chances that he eventually becomes a consistent threat from distance.

Similar to Daniels, Sochan is a versatile, tough player who has quietly gathered quite a bit of support around the NBA. He has interviewed well and impressed on the intangibles front. If he's a capable floor spacer who can defend multiple positions and play with his type of competitive mettle, that's a starting-caliber player with upside. His offensive game needs a lot of fleshing out, but you can squint and see how it all might work. There’s a pretty real chance he goes in the top 10, and if he doesn’t, I wouldn’t expect him to fall much further.

https://www.si.com/.amp/nba/2022/05...-dyson-daniels-shaedon-sharpe-andrew-nembhard
 
Predator said:
NO. JULIUS. RANDLE.
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I don't know how we'd get a better player than that with what we have to offer. Let alone 2 players as good as Randle and Grant... both of whom can play very good defense... both of who have had their shot at being the #1 guy and might be looking to prove some people wrong.

I'm struggling to think of a way to add more talent with what we have to offer, other than just getting lucky at #7. And that will just be one player.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I don't know how we'd get a better player than that with what we have to offer. Let alone 2 players as good as Randle and Grant... both of whom can play very good defense... both of who have had their shot at being the #1 guy and might be looking to prove some people wrong.

I'm struggling to think of a way to add more talent with what we have to offer, other than just getting lucky at #7. And that will just be one player.
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Well, the bolded isn’t necessarily a good thing in my opinion.

I want nothing to do with J Randle unless he has a late career epiphany ala Memphis Grizzlies Z-Bo.

Draft someone @ 7.
Trade Bucks first + A couple seconds + Keon or (whatever) for Jerami Grant.

Grant/Daniels. (Probably most upside combo).
Grant/Sochan. (Probably my favorite combo).
Grant/Eason. (Not my favorite combo).

Admittedly, I am not very high on Randle, so I would rather take a risk than get him, but he did have an all-star season… so… hard to argue that.
 
Predator said:
Well, the bolded isn’t necessarily a good thing in my opinion.

I want nothing to do with J Randle unless he has a late career epiphany ala Memphis Grizzlies Z-Bo.

Draft someone @ 7.
Trade Bucks first + A couple seconds + Keon or (whatever) for Jerami Grant.

Grant/Daniels. (Probably most upside combo).
Grant/Sochan. (Probably my favorite combo).
Grant/Eason. (Not my favorite combo).

Admittedly, I am not very high on Randle, so I would rather take a risk than get him, but he did have an all-star season… so… hard to argue that.
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2nd team all-nba, and played some very good defense. He would immediately be our 2nd best player, and Dame opens a LOT of space in the middle for a bruiser like that to attack the rack.

I hear you, though. It would be nice to strike it rich in the draft with a guy we don't have to pay a ton for a few years. I wonder if we could get Jerami Grant for the deal you proposed?
 
Phatguysrule said:
2nd team all-nba, and played some very good defense. He would immediately be our 2nd best player, and Dame opens a LOT of space in the middle for a bruiser like that to attack the rack.

I hear you, though. It would be nice to strike it rich in the draft with a guy we don't have to pay a ton for a few years. I wonder if we could get Jerami Grant for the deal you proposed?
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Julius Randle is not a better overall basketball player than Nurkic, except maybe in a game of one on one. Is it a coincidence he’s made the playoffs once in his career? He’s not a winning player, and I’ve wanted to like him for years. Cool stats tho!
 
Phatguysrule said:
2nd team all-nba, and played some very good defense. He would immediately be our 2nd best player, and Dame opens a LOT of space in the middle for a bruiser like that to attack the rack.

I hear you, though. It would be nice to strike it rich in the draft with a guy we don't have to pay a ton for a few years. I wonder if we could get Jerami Grant for the deal you proposed?
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Yeah, he would be a talent upgrade for sure.
But he is a complete knucklehead who has quit on his team *multiple* times.
I have one rule: If you ever openly quit on your team, I don’t want you on my team.
That might be a risk worth taking with Dame + Billups though. You’ve got me thinking now.

And I doubt we could get Grant for that package, but it’s possible. He would have to Ben Simmons his way to Portland.

Although if you trade 7 for Randle + 11 you might be able to get Eason, Sochan, or Mathurin.
 
Scalma said:
Julius Randle is not a better overall basketball player than Nurkic, except maybe in a game of one on one. Is it a coincidence he’s made the playoffs once in his career? He’s not a winning player, and I’ve wanted to like him for years. Cool stats tho!
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Ok, another Nurk in the lineup but more mobile. And we get bigger with Jeremi Grant at SF.

Now we can go Dame/Simons with Hart, Grant, Randle, and Nurk.

With the proper scheme, that is a very good defensive team. And still very dangerous at the offensive end as well.

I think that would be a very interesting team to watch. It has to be better than any other team we've put around Dame.
 
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Phatguysrule said:
Ok, another Nurk in the lineup but more mobile. And we get bigger with Jeremi Grant at SF.

Now we can go Dame/Simons with Hart, Grant, Randle, and Nurk.

With the proper scheme, that is a very good defensive team. And still very dangerous at the offensive end as well.

I think that would be a very interesting team to watch. It has to be better than any other team we've put around Dame.
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Along with Nas, Winslow and Watford for depth, plus possibly an MLE guy like Bamba or Warren or Smith.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Ok, another Nurk in the lineup but more mobile. And we get bigger with Jeremi Grant at SF.

Now we can go Dame/Simons with Hart, Grant, Randle, and Nurk.

With the proper scheme, that is a very good defensive team. And still very dangerous at the offensive end as well.

I think that would be a very interesting team to watch. It has to be better than any other team we've put around Dame.
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It'd be intriguing for sure but idk, I would probably target someone other than Randle. I’m also a big Watford guy too, and think he could be good enough to start. He’s like the opposite of Randle. Not as talented, but makes so many winning plays.
 
Scalma said:
It'd be intriguing for sure but idk, I would probably target someone other than Randle. I’m also a big Watford guy too, and think he could be good enough to start. He’s like the opposite of Randle. Not as talented, but makes so many winning plays.
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Sounds like a solid backup. We have to understand that we're not going get the cream of the crop. Anybody we get will be a bit of a gamble.
 
if the Blazers can Parley the #7 into Grant and Randle they did well as long as trading the pick is the gauge

same way if was 7 + EBEC + filler for Collins and Grant

or for Grant and Christian Wood

again, if the Pistons won't accept a 16th or 17th pick for Grant they can fuck off
 
AmirIcon said:
Grant > Randle for the Blazers. I wouldn't do either of the trades.
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I think the pick is getting traded. What else can we get that is better than those 2 players?

Because of we can get more talent and better balanced than that sign me up.
 
wizenheimer said:
if the Blazers can Parley the #7 into Grant and Randle they did well as long as trading the pick is the gauge

same way if was 7 + EBEC + filler for Collins and Grant

or for Grant and Christian Wood

again, if the Pistons won't accept a 16th or 17th pick for Grant they can fuck off
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So trade 11 back for 16/17 and then swap it for Grant?

Sounds good.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I think the pick is getting traded. What else can we get that is better than those 2 players?

Because of we can get more talent and better balanced than that sign me up.
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No way can the Blazers afford both. And I don't think Blazers fans understand how much they're going to hate Randle. Knicks fans want him gone for a reason.

Trading 7 for another lotto pick + Grant is fine. They should be shooting for Ayton and Bridges. I would rather have Collins than Randle.
 
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