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We have a couple combo guards in the G league......by next season they may be in game shape for the roster
 
CJ/Dame is not the problem. We can win title with that back court if we put the right guys around them. People say defense is the problem but our defense has been good this year. Trading CJ gives us a major hole arc SG unless Pat C is ready. People keep saying we should trade CJ for two way SF but PG, Durant, and Kawhi aren't available.

How is Mirotic's defense? We already 2 way stretch PF that can shoot. Aminu off bench? Then where does Collins get minutes?
 
KingSpeed said:
CJ/Dame is not the problem. We can win title with that back court if we put the right guys around them. People say defense is the problem but our defense has been good this year. Trading CJ gives us a major hole arc SG unless Pat C is ready. People keep saying we should trade CJ for two way SF but PG, Durant, and Kawhi aren't available.

How is Mirotic's defense? We already 2 way stretch PF that can shoot. Aminu off bench? Then where does Collins get minutes?
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CJ/Dame is clearly the problem. We have one of the deepest rosters in the NBA. Stop making excuses for them. The good news is it’s an easy problem to fix... they just need to erase their ISO ball mentality and play as a team... or else both are high value tradeable assets. It’s easy to blame to role players, but it’s hard for anyone to perform when they are not involved in the offense... put Dame in one of the bench players roles and he would struggle as well. Dame and CJ control whether we are 8th seed and 1st rd elimination or top 4 with a legit chance... it’s all about dropping their ego and letting the game come naturally within Stotts system.
 
Because we won't get back the value you want (or in the position we want) I don't see us trading CJ unless it is to rebuild. Not sure POR could sell a rebuild to Dame so I don't see CJ traded for a year in a half at least. Maybe at that point a stud SF will emerge that we could trade him for. I just don't see that player right now.
 
A run of bad games and everyone will be on the block again....winning makes everybody look good.....the question is do you sell high on a guy or not....how good are our G league players....lot of ifs around this time of year but not a lot of available SFs in the league unless you pony up a CJ type talent in a trade
 
Gronk Brady said:
CJ/Dame is clearly the problem. We have one of the deepest rosters in the NBA.
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I agree. We are better when Lillard or McCollum is out, as long as we have Napier. I watched the Jazz for a couple of games before they had injuries, and came running back to the Blazers. I found that other frontcourts are running on fumes compared to our talent. (Olshey did that by overspending, of course.)
 
jlprk said:
I agree. We are better when Lillard or McCollum is out, as long as we have Napier. I watched the Jazz for a couple of games before they had injuries, and came running back to the Blazers. I found that other frontcourts are running on fumes compared to our talent. (Olshey did that by overspending, of course.)
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Sorry, you have lost your place in line. You're now at the "beginner" fan stage. So before @HCP says it, shut up junior!
 
BigGameDamian said:
Championship quality?
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It's not realistic at all to expect any move to make this group of player a championship team. Year over year improvements to the quality for team is what we should aim for.
 
Gronk Brady said:
CJ/Dame is clearly the problem. We have one of the deepest rosters in the NBA. Stop making excuses for them. The good news is it’s an easy problem to fix... they just need to erase their ISO ball mentality and play as a team... or else both are high value tradeable assets. It’s easy to blame to role players, but it’s hard for anyone to perform when they are not involved in the offense... put Dame in one of the bench players roles and he would struggle as well. Dame and CJ control whether we are 8th seed and 1st rd elimination or top 4 with a legit chance... it’s all about dropping their ego and letting the game come naturally within Stotts system.
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We have a deep roster???

We're starting Evan Turner, playing Pat Connaughron (Who has been playing well but isn't a rotation piece on a contender).

It's funny how Dame and/or CJ is now the problem for the offense, not defense. Dame distributes well, and with a C that finishes well and more shooters, he'd get 7+ assists per game. Dame doesn't play with an ego at all.

This post isn't based on any fact.. Now we have great role players and it's on our stars?
 
Natebishop3 said:
How about.... Fournier/Gordon/Ross for CJ/Leonard/Vonleh?

And then Harkless/Davis/pick for Mirotic?

Dame/Bazz
Turner/Ross
Fournier/Aminu
Gordon/Mirotic
Nurk/Collins
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Orlando isn't gonna trade Gordon to minimally upgrade Fournier.

Those moves are lateral and don't really accomplish anything IMO. If I'm gonna trade CJ I'm trading him for a draft pick. Or I'm gonna keep CJ while trying to upgrade SF.
 
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-nikola-mirotic-tyreke-evans-more?share=other


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    Atlanta Hawks Receive: C Ed Davis, PF/C Meyers Leonard, 2018 first-round pick (top-16 protected), 2019 second-round pick (via Lakers or Timberwolves)

    Portland Trail Blazers Receive: SG/SF Kent Bazemore, PF Luke Babbitt

    Pretty much every team hoping to make a splash this season is chasing wings on the trade market, according to Wojnarowski. Among them: the Blazers, who are, somewhat quietly, occupying the Western Conference's No. 5 seed despite Damian Lillardmissing games with calf issues and generally lackluster offensive returns.

    Finding switchable three-and-D talents on reasonable contracts is a difficult venture. Not only are they in high demand, but they're also in short supply, because teams that employ Trevor Arizas and Khris Middletons aren't looking to move them.

    That leaves the Blazers, among many others, to surf the slightly overpriced market. And that, in turn, leads us to Kent Bazemore, one of the league's few "expendable" wings, per Wojnarowski.

    Basketball Insiders' Steve Kyler reported in December the "right combination of ending contracts and a first-round pick, even one highly protected, might be enough" for the Atlanta Hawks to part with Bazemore. This deal should do the trick.

    Taking on the remaining three years (including this one) and $31.8 million of Meyers Leonard's deal doesn't spell good times, but his commitment pales in comparison to the $54.3 million Bazemore is owed through 2019-20 (player option). Plus, at 25, Leonard's a better fit for their rebuilding timeline. There might also be something to Leonard-John Collins frontcourt pairings.

    Ed Davis wouldn't have a future in Atlanta, but he comes off the books after this summer, so it doesn't matter. Adding another first-round choice to the cupboard would give the Hawks six, including their own, over the next two drafts.

    Footing the bill for Bazemore while forking over a pick would sting the Blazers, but they're committed to winning now. He'd diversify their pedestrian offense as a secondary playmaker and spot-up marksman without compromising the defense, and his contract expires at the same time as Maurice Harkless and Evan Turner's deals.

    Grabbing Luke Babbitt in the process would be an under-the-radar steal. He's drilling 43.2 percent of his three-point attempts and could hold up as a full-time small-ball 4.
 
BonesJones said:
We have a deep roster???

We're starting Evan Turner, playing Pat Connaughron (Who has been playing well but isn't a rotation piece on a contender).

It's funny how Dame and/or CJ is now the problem for the offense, not defense. Dame distributes well, and with a C that finishes well and more shooters, he'd get 7+ assists per game. Dame doesn't play with an ego at all.

This post isn't based on any fact.. Now we have great role players and it's on our stars?
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Evan Turner started on a competitive Celtics team that dealt th Warriors one of their 9 losses two seasons ago. And I think Pat could absolutely be in the rotation on Spurs and Warriors. Is Nick Young better than Pat? But no, we're not deep. I agree with that.
 
KingSpeed said:
Evan Turner started on a competitive Celtics team that dealt th Warriors one of their 9 losses two seasons ago. And I think Pat could absolutely be in the rotation on Spurs and Warriors. Is Nick Young better than Pat? But no, we're not deep. I agree with that.
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Yeah, in a season that was an abboration for Turner. And the Warriors are trash right? So who cares that he beat them?

Nick Young is definitely better than Pat.
 
BigGameDamian said:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-nikola-mirotic-tyreke-evans-more?share=other


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    Atlanta Hawks Receive: C Ed Davis, PF/C Meyers Leonard, 2018 first-round pick (top-16 protected), 2019 second-round pick (via Lakers or Timberwolves)

    Portland Trail Blazers Receive: SG/SF Kent Bazemore, PF Luke Babbitt

    Pretty much every team hoping to make a splash this season is chasing wings on the trade market, according to Wojnarowski. Among them: the Blazers, who are, somewhat quietly, occupying the Western Conference's No. 5 seed despite Damian Lillardmissing games with calf issues and generally lackluster offensive returns.

    Finding switchable three-and-D talents on reasonable contracts is a difficult venture. Not only are they in high demand, but they're also in short supply, because teams that employ Trevor Arizas and Khris Middletons aren't looking to move them.

    That leaves the Blazers, among many others, to surf the slightly overpriced market. And that, in turn, leads us to Kent Bazemore, one of the league's few "expendable" wings, per Wojnarowski.

    Basketball Insiders' Steve Kyler reported in December the "right combination of ending contracts and a first-round pick, even one highly protected, might be enough" for the Atlanta Hawks to part with Bazemore. This deal should do the trick.

    Taking on the remaining three years (including this one) and $31.8 million of Meyers Leonard's deal doesn't spell good times, but his commitment pales in comparison to the $54.3 million Bazemore is owed through 2019-20 (player option). Plus, at 25, Leonard's a better fit for their rebuilding timeline. There might also be something to Leonard-John Collins frontcourt pairings.

    Ed Davis wouldn't have a future in Atlanta, but he comes off the books after this summer, so it doesn't matter. Adding another first-round choice to the cupboard would give the Hawks six, including their own, over the next two drafts.

    Footing the bill for Bazemore while forking over a pick would sting the Blazers, but they're committed to winning now. He'd diversify their pedestrian offense as a secondary playmaker and spot-up marksman without compromising the defense, and his contract expires at the same time as Maurice Harkless and Evan Turner's deals.

    Grabbing Luke Babbitt in the process would be an under-the-radar steal. He's drilling 43.2 percent of his three-point attempts and could hold up as a full-time small-ball 4.
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Don't share this shit. What a stupid trade idea. Bazemore isn't going to fetch a 1st round pick.
 
BigGameDamian said:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-nikola-mirotic-tyreke-evans-more?share=other


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    Atlanta Hawks Receive: C Ed Davis, PF/C Meyers Leonard, 2018 first-round pick (top-16 protected), 2019 second-round pick (via Lakers or Timberwolves)

    Portland Trail Blazers Receive: SG/SF Kent Bazemore, PF Luke Babbitt

    Pretty much every team hoping to make a splash this season is chasing wings on the trade market, according to Wojnarowski. Among them: the Blazers, who are, somewhat quietly, occupying the Western Conference's No. 5 seed despite Damian Lillardmissing games with calf issues and generally lackluster offensive returns.

    Finding switchable three-and-D talents on reasonable contracts is a difficult venture. Not only are they in high demand, but they're also in short supply, because teams that employ Trevor Arizas and Khris Middletons aren't looking to move them.

    That leaves the Blazers, among many others, to surf the slightly overpriced market. And that, in turn, leads us to Kent Bazemore, one of the league's few "expendable" wings, per Wojnarowski.

    Basketball Insiders' Steve Kyler reported in December the "right combination of ending contracts and a first-round pick, even one highly protected, might be enough" for the Atlanta Hawks to part with Bazemore. This deal should do the trick.

    Taking on the remaining three years (including this one) and $31.8 million of Meyers Leonard's deal doesn't spell good times, but his commitment pales in comparison to the $54.3 million Bazemore is owed through 2019-20 (player option). Plus, at 25, Leonard's a better fit for their rebuilding timeline. There might also be something to Leonard-John Collins frontcourt pairings.

    Ed Davis wouldn't have a future in Atlanta, but he comes off the books after this summer, so it doesn't matter. Adding another first-round choice to the cupboard would give the Hawks six, including their own, over the next two drafts.

    Footing the bill for Bazemore while forking over a pick would sting the Blazers, but they're committed to winning now. He'd diversify their pedestrian offense as a secondary playmaker and spot-up marksman without compromising the defense, and his contract expires at the same time as Maurice Harkless and Evan Turner's deals.

    Grabbing Luke Babbitt in the process would be an under-the-radar steal. He's drilling 43.2 percent of his three-point attempts and could hold up as a full-time small-ball 4.
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I thought the goal was to get under the tax threshold. This deal would put us more than $5 million over the threshold this year and would guarantee we'd become repeat offenders in the very near future. Add in the penalties and Bazemore's $17 million contract would end up cost the team more than $50 million a year in salary and penalties.

Sure, if you can get a Paul George/Jimmy Butler type player you say luxury tax be damned, but Kent Bazemore? I don't think so.

BNM
 
Mediocre Man said:
Meyers, Collins, Aminu...even tbough he's a 3, Vonleh to an extent, Swanigan
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Meyers isn't a 4 and doesn't count because he doesn't play, Vonleh isn't a stretch 4 at all, and Collins is much more than that. So we don't need more shooting...?
 
BonesJones said:
Meyers isn't a 4 and doesn't count because he doesn't play, Vonleh isn't a stretch 4 at all, and Collins is much more than that. So we don't need more shooting...?
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We need wing help in a desperate way

Meyers doesn't play because he's a sieve on defense. Is Myopic any better?
 
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