Rumor Woj says the Blazers are one of the teams most interested in a wing upgrade at the deadline

[riverman]

Don't share this shit

c'mon Bones....you post millions of trade ideas....BGD can post his anytime.....you don't get to dictate these things to posters man..you can disagree without this stuff without the rudeness eh

 

[dviss1]

And severely undersized as a 6’5” SF... the last thing this team needs is to get smaller around the McLillard backcourt

He's just not a winner either. He had 20 in a loss to Phoenix the other day.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

He's just not a winner either. He had 20 in a loss to Phoenix the other day.

That seems kinda unfair. Shabazz just had 21 in a loss to the Hawks on 12/30; are we calling him "not a winner" as well?

 

[dviss1]

That seems kinda unfair. Shabazz just had 21 in a loss to the Hawks on 12/30; are we calling him "not a winner" as well?

That's plenty fair. First off, Shabazz won a National title while being the best player on the team. Can't use that label on him ever.

With regard to Kent, I'm only mentioning this game but there are plenty more if you go down his game log:

 

[PtldPlatypus]

That's plenty fair. First off, Shabazz won a National title while being the best player on the team. Can't use that label on him ever.

With regard to Kent, I'm only mentioning this game but there are plenty more if you go down his game log:

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Yeah--he's on a terrible team with a terrible roster. I'm sure there will be plenty of games in which he plays well in a loss. To saddle him with the "not a winner" label simply because his best teammates left assigns way more of the blame to him than he deserves, IMO. There's a lot more wrong with that squad than Bazemore.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Highly overpaid for his production and doesn't play much D at all.

OK, I'm sure you're right. A couple of years ago he had a reputation as a very good defender.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

c'mon Bones....you post millions of trade ideas....BGD can post his anytime.....you don't get to dictate these things to posters man..you can disagree without this stuff without the rudeness eh

Perhaps, but you're leaving out the possibility that BGD's express purpose of his "trade ideas" is rudeness - which I find somewhat likely.

 

[dviss1]

OK, I'm sure you're right. A couple of years ago he had a reputation as a very good defender.

Well, in college he was the National Defensive Player of the Year in 2010. He also has a Drtg of 107.

He just doesn't pass the eye test with me.

 

[Scalma]

Bazemore has a wingspan of 6’11 1/2. Hardly undersized.

 

[BonesJones]

c'mon Bones....you post millions of trade ideas....BGD can post his anytime.....you don't get to dictate these things to posters man..you can disagree without this stuff without the rudeness eh

Yeah I just hate writers that are paid to come up with trade scenarios that are absolutely horrible.

 

[BonesJones]

We need wing help in a desperate way

Meyers doesn't play because he's a sieve on defense. Is Myopic any better?

Mirotic? Yes. He's average to above average on that end. Right now we need scoring more than anything.

 

[Gronk Brady]

Bazemore has a wingspan of 6’11 1/2. Hardly undersized.

Aminu has a 7’2” wingspan so maybe we can start him at center

 

[Scalma]

Well, in college he was the National Defensive Player of the Year in 2010. He also has a Drtg of 107.

He just doesn't pass the eye test with me.

Probably because you’ve never seen him play. Bazemore has always been known for his defense going back to his college days. A better argument would be his contract.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Mirotic? Yes. He's average to above average on that end. Right now we need scoring more than anything.

We have scoring. I'm not sure we'r utilizing it correctly. Another stretch 4 won't solve that....IMO

 

[Scalma]

Aminu has a 7’2” wingspan so maybe we can start him at center

If he was 20 pounds heavier, you probably could.

Actually that’d be fun to think about.

 

[BonesJones]

We have scoring. I'm not sure we'r utilizing it correctly. Another stretch 4 won't solve that....IMO

Do we though? We only have one non-guard that plays consistently and shoots the ball well (Aminu). We could definitely use another, especially if he's not hurting us on defense.

I agree with you that we need a good wing first, however there's not many available, so I think Mirotic is a good Plan B.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Do we though? We only have one non-guard that plays consistently and shoots the ball well (Aminu). We could definitely use another, especially if he's not hurting us on defense.

I agree with you that we need a good wing first, however there's not many available, so I think Mirotic is a good Plan B.

I disagree, but it's awezome to have an actual conversation about it.

I like Mirotic, but I just don't think he'd be an upgrade. Aminu, as you mentioned, is doing well at the 4. Collins shows flashes of helping too.

 

[BonesJones]

I disagree, but it's awezome to have an actual conversation about it.

I like Mirotic, but I just don't think he'd be an upgrade. Aminu, as you mentioned, is doing well at the 4. Collins shows flashes of helping too.

I would expect more Aminu ast SF to clear time for Mirotic. I'd actually like an Aminu/Mirotic/Nurk pairing. I think it's somewhat likely we trade Davis so Collins could take over that backup C spot with Mirotic, Aminu, and Vonleh playing the 4 with Aminu playing some 3.

It's also likely well need to slide Aminu to the 3 part time if we trade Bazz, unless we get another guard in return.

 

[dviss1]

Probably because you’ve never seen him play. Bazemore has always been known for his defense going back to his college days. A better argument would be his contract.

No. I've seen Bazemore play a good amount. I watch a lot of NBA. That plus how much I ref easily equals 500+ games per year that I watch or officiate.

I've been watching a lot of game replays of PHI, MIL, BOS, NYK, CLE. Of course I watch our games too.

Again, on the NBA level, he doesn't pass my eye test.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Probably because you’ve never seen him play. Bazemore has always been known for his defense going back to his college days. A better argument would be his contract.

Bazemore is a good 3 point shooter. If he's a good defensive player, then that's exactly what I want - a 3 and D guy. I'm more interested in Bazemore than Mirotic: Nurk/Collins/Bazemore/CJ/Lillard is a very good defensive team.

 

[Scalma]

No. I've seen Bazemore play a good amount. I watch a lot of NBA. That plus how much I ref easily equals 500+ games per year that I watch or officiate.

I've been watching a lot of game replays of PHI, MIL, BOS, NYK, CLE. Of course I watch our games too.

Again, on the NBA level, he doesn't pass my eye test.

But why? You brought up his defensive rating, but it’s still better than Connaughton, who’s at 110. And Bazemore is not part of a very good defensive team either, so I think it’s more noteworthy.

 

[dviss1]

But why? You brought up his defensive rating, but it’s still better than Connaughton, who’s at 110. And Bazemore is not part of a very good defensive team either, so I think it’s more noteworthy.

Sure but I didn't use that as a reason why Pat is better or worse. Maybe I misspoke when I said he "doesn't play much D at all" and should've said his D isn't worth his check.

 

[Scalma]

Sure but I didn't use that as a reason why Pat is better or worse. Maybe I misspoke when I said he "doesn't play much D at all" and should've said his D isn't worth his check.

That’s fair.

I don’t like his contract either.