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There was a time, maybe a year or so ago, when everyone, regardless of political affiliation or religion, could agree there were two groups of people who were beyond the pale of any decent society.

Child molesters and Nazis.

Welcome to today's Republican Party. You know, I'm old enough to remember decent, principled Republican politicians.
 
RNC reinstates support for Moore after Trump endorsement

The Republican National Committee is reinstating its support of Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore after initially cutting ties over allegations of sexual misconduct, two sources confirmed to The Hill Monday.

Breitbart News first reported that the RNC had decided to step back into the race just hours after President Trump fully endorsed the controversial candidate.

"We can confirm our involvement in the Alabama Senate race," an RNC official told The Hill.

A second source close to the RNC told The Hill that "the Breitbart story is real.”

Trump endorsed Moore in a tweet to his millions of followers, as well as in a follow-up call aboard Air Force One, in which the president said, "Go get 'em, Roy."

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/363239-rnc-reverses-will-support-moore-in-alabama
 
barfo said:
Hah. Chalk one up for the good guys.

barfo
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We did that on Nov. 8, 2016. :cheers:

They dodged this bullet, but 2 of their original Moore accusers appear to be lying, so... :dunno:
 
SlyPokerDog said:
DeVine, speaking to Breitbart News from Thailand via Skype, said that his estimation was “based off just my experience with people,” and not any specific evidence that Nelson was being dishonest.​
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Well, it's like Johnny Cochran always said: "If some guy in Thailand has a hunch, you gotta acquit"

barfo
 
In Alabama, the heart of Trump country, many think he's backing the wrong candidate in Senate race

resident Trump will swoop into Alabama on Friday to bolster the campaign of Sen. Luther Strange, a soft-spoken former state attorney general now in danger of losing the seat he was tapped to fill just months ago after Jeff Sessions joined the administration.

But in this conservative state that overwhelmingly supported Trump and prides itself as the heart of Old Dixie, some think the president is backing the wrong man. And they’re not sure his visit will help.

Voter enthusiasm instead runs high for the more Trump-like candidate, Roy Moore, the state’s polarizing former chief justice. His far-right, Bible-quoting views twice resulted in him being forced off the bench for defying higher court decisions, including the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in favor of gay marriage. Die-hard supporters have no doubt he will be just as unwavering if they send him to Washington.

The GOP establishment has poured millions of dollars into Strange’s campaign, much from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s aligned Senate Leadership Fund.

But a rival group, run by allies of Stephen K. Bannon, the former Trump advisor, backs Moore, turning Tuesday’s GOP runoff into a trial run for several upcoming outsider-versus-establishment contests to be waged in Arizona, Nevada and other states ahead of the 2018 midterm election.

The race also marks a new kind of power struggle for the hearts and minds of Trump voters — one that pits Bannon, an influential figure in the president’s campaign, against Trump himself.

Trump’s endorsement was once seen as making Strange a shoo-in for the job. But now it’s unclear whether voter loyalty to the president can overcome skepticism about “Big Luther,” as Alabamans call the 6-foot-9 senator.

“I was a big Trump supporter -- and still am -- but he's wrong on this one,” said Jeff Hopper, a gun rights activist who brought his family to hear Moore speak at a Christian high school in Florence, Ala., where cotton grows in fields along the highway.

“Quite frankly I’m a little bit disappointed that Donald Trump has decided to come out on his side.”

Despite Trump’s endorsement, which Strange has made a central part of his campaign, many voters here view him as an uninspiring mainstream politician being forced on them by McConnell and others.

It didn’t help that Strange was appointed by former Gov. Robert Bentley, who at the time was embroiled in an ethics scandal that many believed Strange’s public integrity unit was investigating. Bentley avoided impeachment by resigning soon after Strange’s appointment.

The temporary appointment to Sessions’ old Senate seat was intended to give Strange a head start in the race. Instead it has tarnished his image.

Moore, on the other hand, appeals to Bannon’s preference for disrupters like Trump. Now that Bannon has left the White House and resumed his war on the Washington establishment at the Breitbart News website, helping Moore also gives Bannon another opportunity to frustrate McConnell and other GOP leaders. Bannon and Moore met recently in Washington.

“This is a real opportunity to set the tone for the Trump coalition of candidates,” said Eric Beach, a GOP operative from California who runs the pro-Trump Great America Alliance and its PAC.

The group recently hired a top Bannon aide as a senior advisor and is running TV ads supporting Moore and bashing Strange. It is launching a Sarah Palin-headlined bus tour ahead of Tuesday’s vote.

Strategists say the bruising battle may create an opening for Democrat Doug Jones, the former U.S. attorney in Birmingham, who reinvestigated the 16th Street Baptist Church bombing in 1963 and won convictions against two former Ku Klux Klan members decades after that pivotal moment in the civil rights movement. It would be a stunning turn of events in red-state Alabama.

“Anything’s possible,” said Sen. Richard C. Shelby, who was the state’s last Democrat elected to the Senate in 1992 before he switched to the Republican Party.

At a Saturday morning meeting of the Baldwin County GOP, just across the bay from the faded charm of downtown Mobile, Strange dutifully checked the boxes of his resume – his work as lead counsel for the Gulf states after the Deepwater Horizon oil spill and creating a public integrity unit that toppled Alabama leaders.

Strange is warm and chatty on a personal level, but as a candidate he’s sometimes what Trump himself might mock as “low-energy,” particularly in comparison to the firebrand Moore. He’s more passionate talking about his grandkids than discussing his support of legislation to make it easier to purchase firearm silencers.

Trump’s blessing is now seen as Strange’s main hope of winning, though recent polling shows the race has narrowed amid attack ads on Moore about the handling of funds related to a religious-liberties charity he ran.

“I cannot be more proud of the endorsement of our president,” Strange told the small crowd. “Every time I see him he asks about how are my great friends in Mobile doing?... He just loves Alabama, wants us to be successful.”

In a tweet Wednesday, Trump said he looked forward to Friday’s rally and added, “I am supporting ‘Big’ Luther Strange because he was so loyal & helpful to me!”

Strange said backlash over his appointment comes mainly from allies of elected officials that his public corruption unit booted from office.

“Clearly there was no impropriety any way, and the facts just kind of speak for themselves,” he said in an interview.

Where Strange has often failed to excite voters, Moore has proved too controversial for many. For some Republicans, almost anyone would be better than Moore.

“I go back to that line in the movie with Marlon Brando on the ship: ‘Let’s just throw the Bible-thumping SOB overboard,’” said Dan Benton, 78, a retired lawyer in Fairhope.

At Moore’s Florence rally, the former judge outlined all the wrongs he sees in Washington and “spiritual wickedness in high places.” He warned of “the awful calamity of abortion and sodomy and perverse behavior and murders and shootings and road rage” as “a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins.”

In response to a question from one of the only African Americans in the audience — who asked when Moore thought America was last “great” -- Moore acknowledged the nation’s history of racial divisions, but said: “I think it was great at the time when families were united — even though we had slavery — they cared for one another…. Our families were strong, our country had a direction.”

Democrats predict the bitter GOP primary, fueled by vicious ad campaigns funded by outside groups, will work in their favor in the December general election.

“Our campaign is right on track,” Jones said in an interview at his campaign headquarters in Birmingham. “As people have seen what has happened in this state, I think they want someone who is not going to embarrass them.”

Moore, though, sees his race as the start of a revival in GOP politics.

“People ask, ‘Well, if you go to Congress are you going to say these things?’” he said. “If I go to Congress why wouldn’t I say these things? … If they don’t want that in Washington, then they better not get me up there.”
 
Please forget for a moment that Roy Moore has been accused of child molestation. Put that at the back of your mind. Now, (you should watch the whole thing cuz it's HILARIOUS) fast forward to 8:01 of Seth Meyers' "A Closer Look":



Thoughts??? I was LEGITIMATELY scared....
 
crandc said:
I'm old enough to remember decent, principled Republican politicians.
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I can top that!
I'm old enough to remember decent, principled Democrat politicians.

What I can't remember is this fellow being accused of this stuff in prior elections. Why did they wait until this one?
 
MarAzul said:
I can top that!
I'm old enough to remember decent, principled Democrat politicians.

What I can't remember is this fellow being accused of this stuff in prior elections. Why did they wait until this one?
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Ummmmm..........maybe because Trump wasn’t president and doing stupid shit that worries (and even terrifies) the part of the population with any intelligence and common sense.......?
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Ummmmm..........maybe because Trump wasn’t president and doing stupid shit that worries (and even terrifies) the part of the population with any intelligence and common sense.......?
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Could be I guess. Although, saving up these charges until Trump arrives seems a stretch.
 
MarAzul said:
What I can't remember is this fellow being accused of this stuff in prior elections. Why did they wait until this one?
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This is the first time he's run for senator. Nobody pays much attention to who gets on the AL supreme court, apparently.

barfo
 
barfo said:
This is the first time he's run for senator. Nobody pays much attention to who gets on the AL supreme court, apparently.

barfo
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Possible. But why would the women who were the victim, feel worse if he runs for Senate when they could have stopped him from being a judge?
 
MarAzul said:
Possible. But why would the women who were the victim, feel worse if he runs for Senate when they could have stopped him from being a judge?
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I think you know the answer to that.

barfo
 
ripcityboy said:
Anybody remember the Goldshmidt fiasco that came out years ago? Girl was 13 when he had a relationship with her and later killed herself. He must have called in a lot of favors to bury that shit.
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She died, but I don't think she killed herself. Report I saw says she died at 49 after a long illness.

barfo
 
MarAzul said:
Interesting. Everyone knows what barfo knows.
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And barfo knows what everyone knows.

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The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
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Ah, give or take a night or two
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Without your clothes
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Old Black Joe's still pickin' cotton
For your ribbons and bows
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That will disclose
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To the beach of Malibu
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Take one last look at this Sacred Heart
Before it blows
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barfo
 
barfo said:
But that isn't supposed to be announced until tomorrow morning...

barfo
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It'll be two years before Jones gets to the senate. This is going to get ugly. There are already accusations of fraud. Apparently they let black people vote. This is a bad thing in Alabama and Marzyland.
 
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