Would you trade Aldridge for Harden + Ibaka + Perkins?

[Mediocre Man]

Yet.

He learns to dribble the ball/take it to the rim with any efficiency and he will be.

Very well could be, yes

 

[Natebishop3]

Whatever happened to not helping a division rival?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Whatever happened to not helping a division rival?

I guess when we can actually rival them, we can look at that philosophy?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

The other thing about a trade like this: either
(a) OKC (assuming they don't come back from 3-1 down this year) never do win a title, in which case, YAY!, or
(b) They (pretty much inevitably) do, in which case we don't need to feel as bad, because we can still have residual warm feelings for Aldridge.

 

[Mediocre Man]

The other thing about a trade like this: either
(a) OKC (assuming they don't come back from 3-1 down this year) never do win a title, in which case, YAY!, or
(b) They (pretty much inevitably) do, in which case we don't need to feel as bad, because we can still have residual warm feelings for Aldridge.

A feel good story if I ever heard one

 

[mook]

Yeah, hard to see how anyone in the Northwest could feel bad about Aldridge and Durant winning a championship playing for the Thunder.

 

[HailBlazers]

Yeah, hard to see how anyone in the Northwest could feel bad about Aldridge and Durant winning a championship playing for the Thunder.

lol, riiiight.


On the flip side, how in the heck did the Blazers not Pair LMA and Durant, alumni from the same college together.

 

[Natebishop3]

Yeah, hard to see how anyone in the Northwest could feel bad about Aldridge and Durant winning a championship playing for the Thunder.

Feel-good story of the year in the NW!

 

[mook]

If I were the Thunder, I'd trade Harden because he's the most marketable to a sad sack franchise (like ours) trying to gain relevancy and a bigger fan base. You can trade him for more and give up less (because Durant and Westbrook can pick up some of the slack, and Ibaka may grow as a scorer too).

They're very good at spotting young gems (and facing some tough financial issues) so I would think they would be that rare contending team that is willing to look at draft picks/youth. I'd give up Freeland, Williams and our two first rounders for him, but I doubt that'd be enough.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

There's no way OKC trades Harden, Ibaka and Perkins for Aldridge, it's pointless to talk about. I just still can't believe some people would trade Aldridge straight up for Harden.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

There's no way OKC trades Harden, Ibaka and Perkins for Aldridge, it's pointless to talk about. I just still can't believe some people would trade Aldridge straight up for Harden.

Neither of those trades would happen. But I'm sure they are fun to think about.

Blazer fans are in for a stretch of low-grade mediocrity like hasn't been seen since 79-89. The climate of the NBA right now and P.A.'s unwillingness to spend Portland out of the "Small Market Team" hole makes me very pessimistic about the near- and mid-long term future of the franchise. No, I don't think they are going to move, I don't think Paul will sell (right now, anyway), but I think the sell-out streak ends this coming year, and we settle in for several years of fighting for the 8th spot in the playoffs, or missing and getting a low-level lottery pick, free agents won't touch them, and the lack of team talent precludes any trades that would launch the team upwards. If LaMarcus is smart, he'd realize this and demand a trade to a team that has some vision and potential, if not a "right now" contender. All in all... it's gonna be a tough rest of the decade for us.

 

[PapaG]

1. We don't have ANY "superstars".
2. Harden is not a "role player."

Other than that, your comment applies.

The NBA Finals have shown that Harden is a role player. 4 NBA Finals games - 3 times held to single digit scoring, yet people want to trade him straight up for LMA.

It's why nobody should take any basketball discussion here seriously. We all have opinions, but some are just so laughably stupid, they are painful. Everybody here has had stupid ideas, myself included, by the way.

 

[MickZagger]

At 22 years old Harden has been to the Finals. At 22, Roy was in college at Washington.

At 22, Harden had a PER of over 20 on a team that went to the Finals.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

They're very good at spotting young gems (and facing some tough financial issues) so I would think they would be that rare contending team that is willing to look at draft picks/youth. I'd give up Freeland, Williams and our two first rounders for him, but I doubt that'd be enough.

Um, you would be correct.

I'm pretty sure the Thunder don't do anything yet (even assuming they don't make a comeback) because they don't have to. Teams never seem to trade good players until they're absolutely forced to, and Harden isn't even a RFA until next summer. But they've got to know that somebody is clearing cap space to make a run at him.

 

[PapaG]

At 22 years old Harden has been to the Finals. At 22, Roy was in college at Washington.

At 22, Harden had a PER of over 20 on a team that went to the Finals.

At 23, Roy was a franchise player. At 24, an All-Star.

Harden is a 6th man who has been shut down in the Finals, and has yet to prove to be a primary scoring option on a nightly basis.

Keep on thinking Harden is Roy, though. That's what I meant when I was talking about stupid ideas.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i wouldnt be shocked to see harden in an all star game in the near future

 

[MickZagger]

At 23, Roy was a franchise player. At 24, an All-Star.

Harden is a 6th man who has been shut down in the Finals, and has yet to prove to be a primary scoring option on a nightly basis.

Keep on thinking Harden is Roy, though. That's what I meant when I was talking about stupid ideas.

You put Harden on that Blazer team at the age of 22 and he's an AS, too. Franchise player is such a relative term. How good of a franchise are we talking about?

 

[RR7]

4 games have defined someone's career at 22. And you call out others for stupidity. unbelievable

 

[PapaG]

i wouldnt be shocked to see harden in an all star game in the near future

I'd be shocked to see him as the franchise player on a 54-win team that has no other All-Stars.

But he's Brandon Roy.

 

[PapaG]

4 games have defined someone's career at 22. And you call out others for stupidity. unbelievable

I think it's stupid to trade Harden straight-up for LMA, and to compare him to Brandon Roy.

What an unbelievably stupid post, if you agree with it.

Harden has been shut the fuck down. He's costing OKC this series.

 

[MickZagger]

He's 22 flippin years old!!! He would be a senior in college this year.

 

[PapaG]

Trading an All-Star/All-NBA player who is entering his prime for a 6th man who has had one 20+ PER year is stupid.

Unbelievable!

 

[PapaG]

He's 22 flippin years old!!! He would be a senior in college this year.

He's a role player who never even gets double-teamed.

Dumbest fans in America - those trading LMA for Harden straight up.

 

[MickZagger]

He's a role player who never even gets double-teamed.

Dumbest fans in America - those trading LMA for Harden straight up.

20 PER is not a role player.

 

[RR7]

He's a role player who never even gets double-teamed.

Dumbest fans in America - those trading LMA for Harden straight up.

Ok, also, sorry, I just read through(you know, readers are leaders and all that stupid shit you spout), and yet this seems to be a strawman you're building, can you direct me to who is wanting to trade LA straight across for Harden?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Ok, also, sorry, I just read through(you know, readers are leaders and all that stupid shit you spout), and yet this seems to be a strawman you're building, can you direct me to who is wanting to trade LA straight across for Harden?

This thread: http://sportstwo.com/threads/215478-What-Would-You-Trade-For-Harden?highlight=harden+aldridge

These posts:

I'd trade anybody on the roster (yes even LMA) but the truth is OKC is going to work out an extension with him this summer; they'll let Ibaka walk or amnesty Perkins before they break up their trio of superstars ... hell even if they were going to break those three up the most likely candidate to get shipped would be Westbrook IMO.

I'd do that deal.

Harden as the #1/#2 guy and I think he'll be as good as Roy was.

 

[RR7]

This thread: http://sportstwo.com/threads/215478-What-Would-You-Trade-For-Harden?highlight=harden+aldridge

These posts:

Thank you. Not sure I saw that one at the time, or read all the way through it if I did. I believe the best way to build in the league is with a guy like Roy. Durant. Wade. James. harden. Kobe. Some of those names don't fit, I know. But basically, a dominant wing who is very good at creating for others as well. I would prefer to build around Harden than I would LMA long term. That being said, I'm also one for maximizing value, and/or buying low, and I would not do a straight up deal of the two when the value favors LMA currently. I said previously I'd do Ibaka and Harden, and I still would, 3 games aren't going to change my mind, just like the playoff games LMA played in this year aren't changing my mind. But I would need added value to do that deal.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I would do Aldridge for Ibaka and Harden as well, and I'm really not a fan of Harden. His production doesn't lie though, and him and Ibaka are exceptionally young.

 

[PapaG]

I would do Aldridge for Ibaka and Harden as well, and I'm really not a fan of Harden. His production doesn't lie though, and him and Ibaka are exceptionally young.

Great idea. Give OKC an All-Star/All-NBA PF to go along with their MVP-level SF and All-NBA/All-Star PG. LMA would be the oldest at age 27. In return, Portland gets a 6th Man and a very limited (but effective in the right role) PF.

 

[MickZagger]

Yeah, cause Harden's going to be a career 6th man...

Derp!