Would you trade CJ for Doncic? (1 Viewer)

[Lukee]

Hell yes!

 

[Gronk Brady]

I don’t care if he’s my next door neighbor, until he proves he can do it in the NBA it doesn’t really matter to me what he does.
He very well might be a really good NBA player someday.

To me Dame is one of the franchises best players ever in his prime and if you are going to trade CJ for this package you’re basically saying we’re building around Collins and Doncic, which is fine but you might as well trade Dame, because they won’t be competing for anything for at least another 3-5 years and no way Dame sits around and waits that out.

They are NOT competing for anything now as constructed... Doncic and Parsons keep Blazers at least as good as they are now, but with a high upside... Doncic has a very low bust potential... he has been playing against grown men in 2nd best league in the world for years now

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Not saying Luka ends up this way but the scouts say he’s great thing doesn’t mean a lot...
https://www.detroitbadboys.com/2014/9/24/6841293/rip-hamilton-reaction-darko-milicic-2003-nba-draft

Remind me of when Darko won MVP of the Euroleague?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Sergio Rodriguez won it a few years back remind me how great he was...

 

[Gronk Brady]

I don’t care if he’s my next door neighbor, until he proves he can do it in the NBA it doesn’t really matter to me what he does.
He very well might be a really good NBA player someday.

To me Dame is one of the franchises best players ever in his prime and if you are going to trade CJ for this package you’re basically saying we’re building around Collins and Doncic, which is fine but you might as well trade Dame, because they won’t be competing for anything for at least another 3-5 years and no way Dame sits around and waits that out.

You are just failing to understand that you will have to gamble a little bit on the unproven to change things with this team... no one is giving up even an equal talent to CJ with more size to play SF of PF... 6’3” undersized SG are the easiest type of player to find... the difference between CJ and many gaurds that come out of draft is a coach giving them a green light to shoot... you are basically saying keep things status quo since you are not willing to take any risk

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

You are just failing to understand that you will have to gamble a little bit on the unproven to change things with this team... no one is giving up even an equal talent to CJ with more size to play SF of PF... 6’3” undersized SG are the easiest type of player to find... the difference between CJ and many gaurds that come out of draft is a coach giving them a green light to shoot... you are basically saying keep things status quo since you are not willing to take any risk

Willing to take risks, but not this one. It's easy to say take risks, but when / if it doesn't work we'd all be here to tell NO how stupid it was to take to the risk.

 

[Gronk Brady]

Willing to take risks, but not this one. It's easy to say take risks, but when / if it doesn't work we'd all be here to tell NO how stupid it was to take to the risk.

No, I would respect Neil for going for it... the reason most people hate on Neil is for playing it safe for a team just good enough to make playoffs so they can sell tickets

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

No, I would respect Neil for going for it... the reason most people hate on Neil is for playing it safe for a team just good enough to make playoffs so they can sell tickets

Right so if they did, this Doncic turns out to be not that good, Parsons stays down on the end of the bench next to Meyers, and the Blazers win 30 games, people would be so thrilled he took the risk on the Blazers way to winning 35 games.

 

[riverman]

No matter how good the kid is....I don't see the Blazers banking on a rookie this season...I thought the kid said he wanted to stay in Europe another year?

 

[Gronk Brady]

Right so if they did, this Doncic turns out to be not that good, Parsons stays down on the end of the bench next to Meyers, and the Blazers win 30 games, people would be so thrilled he took the risk on the Blazers way to winning 35 games.

So if they stand pat next year with Dame and CJ and win 42 games and lose in 1st rd again will people will be thrilled? What’s your point, anything can happen either way... it’s a matter of trying something new vs trying to force the issue with something you know doesn’t work

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Sergio Rodriguez won it a few years back remind me how great he was...

Was he 19 at the time?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

No matter how good the kid is....I don't see the Blazers banking on a rookie this season...I thought the kid said he wanted to stay in Europe another year?

That would be so funny / sad if they traded CJ for him and he stayed in Europe another year (this isn't likely though).

 

[Gronk Brady]

That would be so funny / sad if they traded CJ for him and he stayed in Europe another year (this isn't likely though).

Yeah that would be so funny if he stayed in Europe another year and Blazers got another lottery pick to go with Doncic and Collins, building a true contender 3 years out when Warriors start to fade... so funny

 

[Rastapopoulos]

No matter how good the kid is....I don't see the Blazers banking on a rookie this season...

You're probably right, but I'm asking what YOU would do. (Personally, I would be amazed if Doncic was available at #4 - although....)

I thought the kid said he wanted to stay in Europe another year?

I will bet you any money you like that he is playing in the NBA this coming season.

 

[rotary111]

Right so if they did, this Doncic turns out to be not that good, Parsons stays down on the end of the bench next to Meyers, and the Blazers win 30 games, people would be so thrilled he took the risk on the Blazers way to winning 35 games.

I respect your opinion. We could be wrong about Luka.

I would also say that there's a chance with as tough as the west is becoming, that we are fighting for the last spot in the playoffs or worse with the same team next year.

So where are we really? Disagree?

 

[riverman]

You're probably right, but I'm asking what YOU would do. (Personally, I would be amazed if Doncic was available at #4.)


I will bet you any money you like that he is playing in the NBA this coming season.

That would be a zero dollar bet....good to know though.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Yeah that would be so funny if he stayed in Europe another year and Blazers got another lottery pick to go with Doncic and Collins, building a true contender 3 years out when Warriors start to fade... so funny

Ah so we're building now around a guy who's played 0 in the NBA, a guy who's rookie season showed "a bit" of promise, but had a PER of 7.5 and shot less then 40% from the field, and another lottery pick. Sounds like we want to be more like Sacremento than Golden State...

 

[Rastapopoulos]

"Is Doncic the best Euro prospect ever?"

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I respect your opinion. We could be wrong about Luka.

I would also say that there's a chance with as tough as the west is becoming, that we are fighting for the last spot in the playoffs or worse with the same team next year.

So where are we really? Disagree?

I don't know, and you very well could be right, I'm not a proponent of just sticking to CJ and Dame for the heck of it. The margin in the west among the 3-10 teams is razor thin, they could easily not even be in the playoffs year.
I just don't really think this is the deal I'd go for.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

"Is Doncic the best Euro prospect ever?"

I guess it just depends on how good you think Doncic will be, I've watched the highlight video's and youtube, and read probably the same or similar things to what you've seen or watched. I'm not really convinced. You might be, and that's fine. The question was if I'd do the deal and I said no, mainly because I'm not convinced. Saying he's great in Euroleague to me, doesn't necessarily mean he will be great in the NBA, it might be the 2nd best league in the world, but the gap is still pretty big...

 

[Gronk Brady]

Ah so we're building now around a guy who's played 0 in the NBA, a guy who's rookie season showed "a bit" of promise, but had a PER of 7.5 and shot less then 40% from the field, and another lottery pick. Sounds like we want to be more like Sacremento than Golden State...

We would still have Dame and Nurk and Harkless... you make it seem as trading CJ for a young player is going to extremes

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I guess it just depends on how good you think Doncic will be, I've watched the highlight video's and youtube, and read probably the same or similar things to what you've seen or watched. I'm not really convinced. You might be, and that's fine. The question was if I'd do the deal and I said no, mainly because I'm not convinced. Saying he's great in Euroleague to me, doesn't necessarily mean he will be great in the NBA, it might be the 2nd best league in the world, but the gap is still pretty big...

He's played against NBA players too:
This one's in 2016:


This was last Summer:


He scored 27 points against Porzingis and Latvia.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I think worst case scenario for Doncic is Hedo.

 

[riverman]

In answer to the OP...no, I won't trade CJ for the #4 pick....but if I were GM I'd trade him for the Greek Freak or Kawhi Leonard in a heartbeat.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

...and here's Doncic and co beating the Gasols:

 

[Rastapopoulos]

In answer to the OP...no, I won't trade CJ for the #4 pick....but if I were GM I'd trade him for the Greek Freak or Kawhi Leonard in a heartbeat.

Sadly nobody's going to make that offer.

 

[Sarni]

He could go to the Nuggets and play with his buddy Will. That would be a much better team than what we have, minus CJ, plus Doncic.

Spurs are also a good choice, mind the awkwardness with LMA. Tony Parker needs replacing.

He would be a better replacement for Bledsoe at Milwaukie.

There are quite a few teams that Dame can join and elevate them into serious contenders.

Nuggets with Lillard would be nowhere near contenders and to put a package together to get him they would need to gut their roster (Murray, Harris and a pick at the very minimum and that is probably not enough).

Milwaukee have no chance to get him and neither do Spurs. Remember that we would need to accept a trade offer, it’s not as simple as him asking to go somewhere and just joining that team.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I haven't looked into Doncic, yet. However, I'm hearing the same arguments for Doncic that
I was hearing about Ricky Rubio. I wouldn't trade CJ for a young Rubio. Not even for a matured
Rubio.

 

[Sarni]

I haven't looked into Doncic, yet. However, I'm hearing the same arguments for Doncic that
I was hearing about Ricky Rubio. I wouldn't trade CJ for a young Rubio. Not even for a matured
Rubio.

Rubio’s development has been somewhat halted by injuries. Still, the Utah version of Rubio is great and I think next season will be his ultimate breakthrough. His main disadvantage was inability to shoot the ball, he has been getting much better at it recently under Snyder and the rest of his game is great or at least very good.

 

[rotary111]

His court vision and passing are what sets him apart from other players we could bring in.. at least for me. I love the Simmons type of point forwards.

He has that kind of feel to his game. They make everyone better.

@Wizard Mentor..A taller Rubio with an offensive game to go with the bbiq and passing ability.