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It really is not the prerogative of straight white men to decide how others fight for their civil rights. Their permission is not needed.
 
crandc said:
It really is not the prerogative of straight white men to decide how others fight for their civil rights. Their permission is not needed.
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sorry.....it's everyone's responsibility and has nothing to do with gender or sexual orientation....and it's not right that white men have all the power in the world...you're right about not needing their permission but I'm a straight white male who's very active in the civil rights cause.....and I' don't need anyone's permission to engage in it either..civil rights is designed to be inclusive...not segregated As a straight white male I claim no authority ...but I'm not going to be excluded from the conversation because of these things..there are plenty of straight white females who are extremely racist out there as well.. there are no doubt racists within the gay community also.....everyone is welcome in my form of protest so long as they are not racist or have bad intentions..we also should be careful not to be sexist toward any sexual orientation including straight males
 
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crandc said:
It really is not the prerogative of straight white men to decide how others fight for their civil rights. Their permission is not needed.
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I'm counting on Joe Biden to pass sweeping reforms for the cause and staff his cabinet with strong women...we should all support this whether Joe is white and straight or not
 
I am not saying everyone can't participate, they should. But the thread was initiated by a person who apparently believes he is the authority who can scold black people for not listening to him.
 
riverman said:
sorry.....it's everyone's responsibility and has nothing to do with gender or sexual orientation....and it's not right that white men have all the power in the world...you're right about not needing their permission but I'm a straight white male who's very active in the civil rights cause.....and I' don't need anyone's permission to engage in it either..civil rights is designed to be inclusive...not segregated As a straight white male I claim no authority ...but I'm not going to be excluded from the conversation because of these things..there are plenty of straight white females who are extremely racist out there as well.. there are no doubt racists within the gay community also.....everyone is welcome in my form of protest so long as they are not racist or have bad intentions..we also should be careful not to be sexist toward any sexual orientation including straight males
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Wow. This is great stuff.
 
Hoopguru said:
We had a peaceful BLM in my suburb community with 2000 marchers and there were zero anarchist in the group to piggy back and h9i jack the event. In front of the courthouse with speakers all very courteous.
If more marches were this way and they purged the trouble makers/thieves/anarchist from their movement it would make a diffrence.
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We’ve had 5 or 6 very peaceful, very successful BLM led marches and protests here in NE Portland. It can be done.
 
riverman said:
They killed John, Bobby, Martin, Fred, Malcolm and many of the leaders of that movement....and when cocaine and disco showed up, the hippies went dancing.....didn't follow through at all..sex drugs and rock and roll became much more important than civil rights sadly...our generation dropped the ball in my view
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Caught me red handed, dammit. So, how did you find out that I once owned a brownish velvet leisure suit? I had the matching cowboy boots and tank top psychedelic shirts. Can't remember the pants but if I saw them again I'm sure I'd either laugh my ass off or run away embarrassed.
 
riverman said:
sorry.....it's everyone's responsibility and has nothing to do with gender or sexual orientation....and it's not right that white men have all the power in the world...you're right about not needing their permission but I'm a straight white male who's very active in the civil rights cause.....and I' don't need anyone's permission to engage in it either..civil rights is designed to be inclusive...not segregated As a straight white male I claim no authority ...but I'm not going to be excluded from the conversation because of these things..there are plenty of straight white females who are extremely racist out there as well.. there are no doubt racists within the gay community also.....everyone is welcome in my form of protest so long as they are not racist or have bad intentions..we also should be careful not to be sexist toward any sexual orientation including straight males
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I don't think that's what she was saying, riverman.
 
Binx said:
Actually, I find the younger generation to be highly racist these days. All you hear from them is how horrible white people are. White people are privileged. White people are ignorant. White people are blind. White people are oppressive. White people are selfish. It’s an all-out assault on whiteness. This is why the statues of white people are being pulled down everywhere—even the statue of Ulysses Grant who won the Civil War that freed the slaves.
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reading your posts i cant fathom how they would ever come to that conclusion....
 
riverman said:
sorry.....it's everyone's responsibility and has nothing to do with gender or sexual orientation....and it's not right that white men have all the power in the world...you're right about not needing their permission but I'm a straight white male who's very active in the civil rights cause.....and I' don't need anyone's permission to engage in it either..civil rights is designed to be inclusive...not segregated As a straight white male I claim no authority ...but I'm not going to be excluded from the conversation because of these things..there are plenty of straight white females who are extremely racist out there as well.. there are no doubt racists within the gay community also.....everyone is welcome in my form of protest so long as they are not racist or have bad intentions..we also should be careful not to be sexist toward any sexual orientation including straight males
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Well said River. I could care less about color, race or religion or sexual preference we need to appreciate and respect people of all walks and culture.
 
I think it's weird that some people are more upset by the NBA allowing players to have those statements on their uniforms, then they are about what the statements are about.
 
I can hear the radio play-by-play already . . .

Black Lives Matter passes it to I Can’t Breathe. He dribbles around a screen set by Respect Us, makes his move and takes Justice to the basket! Oh, man, he made Justice look bad. Now it’s Anti-Racist against Stand Up. He runs him over! Did you see that, Dave? Stand Up is on his back! Stand Up, Stand Up! Okay, we have a new player entering the game. I can’t see his jersey. Who is that, Dave? Say Their Names, Bob. That’s what I’m trying to do, Dave! What’s that guy’s name? Say Their Names. That’s what I’m trying to do, Bob! Can you give me a little help?
 
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Binx said:
I can hear the radio play-by-play already. . .

Black Lives Matter passes it to I Can’t Breathe. He dribbles around a screen set by Respect Us, makes his move and takes Justice to the basket! Oh, man, he made Justice look bad. Now it’s Anti-Racist against Stand Up. He runs him over! Did you see that, Dave? Stand Up is on his back! Stand Up, Stand Up! Okay, we have a new player entering the game. I can’t see his jersey. Who is that, Dave? Say Their Names, Bob. That’s what I’m trying to do, Dave! What’s that guy’s name? Say Their Names. That’s what I’m trying to do, Bob! Can you give me a little help?
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Sounds like a really bad Abbott and Costello routine.
 
Binx said:
I can hear the radio play-by-play already . . .

Black Lives Matter passes it to I Can’t Breathe. He dribbles around a screen set by Respect Us, makes his move and takes Justice to the basket! Oh, man, he made Justice look bad. Now it’s Anti-Racist against Stand Up. He runs him over! Did you see that, Dave? Stand Up is on his back! Stand Up, Stand Up! Okay, we have a new player entering the game. I can’t see his jersey. Who is that, Dave? Say Their Names, Bob. That’s what I’m trying to do, Dave! What’s that guy’s name? Say Their Names. That’s what I’m trying to do, Bob! Can you give me a little help?
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Don’t watch.

sounds simple enough
 
Binx said:
I can hear the radio play-by-play already . . .

Black Lives Matter passes it to I Can’t Breathe. He dribbles around a screen set by Respect Us, makes his move and takes Justice to the basket! Oh, man, he made Justice look bad. Now it’s Anti-Racist against Stand Up. He runs him over! Did you see that, Dave? Stand Up is on his back! Stand Up, Stand Up! Okay, we have a new player entering the game. I can’t see his jersey. Who is that, Dave? Say Their Names, Bob. That’s what I’m trying to do, Dave! What’s that guy’s name? Say Their Names. That’s what I’m trying to do, Bob! Can you give me a little help?
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Where were you raised/grew up?
 
Binx said:
Oh, that’s going to unite us! Brilliant move, NBA.
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I asked the Trump supporters on here the same question MANY times and not once have they ever replied, so I'll ask you.......Is it strange for you to have the players of your favorite NBA team have a COMPLETELY different view/opinion on all of this? To know that they don't agree with you AT ALL? You are so emotionally invested in this team that you joined this forum, yet you spew this hate on here that goes against everything they believe in. It must be an odd feeling to root for people that don't share your values.
 
THE HCP said:
I asked the Trump supporters on here the same question MANY times and not once have they ever replied, so I'll ask you.......Is it strange for you to have the players of your favorite NBA team have a COMPLETELY different view/opinion on all of this? To know that they don't agree with you AT ALL? You are so emotionally invested in this team that you joined this forum, yet you spew this hate on here that goes against everything they believe in. It must be an odd feeling to root for people that don't share your values.
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Turns out the world is full of people who all have different opinions on different subjects. Crazy I know. You should re read your post and realize how stupid and exclusive it is. Basketball is a sport and that’s it, period. You think it’s “strange” that people with various opinions all might enjoy the same sport and root for the same team regardless of political ideologies? Scary stuff FAMS!!!
 
jonnyboy said:
Turns out the world is full of people who all have different opinions on different subjects. Crazy I know. You should re read your post and realize how stupid and exclusive it is. Basketball is a sport and that’s it, period. You think it’s “strange” that people with various opinions all might enjoy the same sport and root for the same team regardless of political ideologies? Scary stuff FAMS!!!
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I understand that people have different opinions. Thats not what I asked. I asked what it's like cheering, supporting and rooting for people that have nothing in common with your ideology and beliefs. I don't think I could do that.
 
THE HCP said:
I understand that people have different opinions. Thats not what I asked. I asked what it's like cheering, supporting and rooting for people that have nothing in common with your ideology and beliefs. I don't think I could do that.
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Maybe that’s a problem you should work on? It’s called living on a planet with other humans.
 
THE HCP said:
You are so emotionally invested in this team that you joined this forum, yet you spew this hate on here that goes against everything they believe in.
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Gee, I think I know why those Trump supporters never answered your question. You called them haters right out of the gate. Get a clue.
 
THE HCP said:
It must be an odd feeling to root for people that don't share your values.
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Do you consider yourself a Marxist? If not, how can you root for Black Lives Matter, which is an openly Marxist organization?
 
Binx said:
Do you consider yourself a Marxist? If not, how can you root for Black Lives Matter, which is an openly Marxist organization?
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Nah, I call myself a human being who grew up surrounded by black people and would love to see them treated properly. Not sure what you would call that, but that's what I am. Where did YOU grow up?
 
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