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Another possibility is to do a 3-way with the Knicks and Pelicans where we get Zion, who doesn't want to be there (but will he want to be in Portland tho). :NOTMARIS:

If I'm trading Dame, I'm only looking to trade for top 3 draft picks within the last 5 years. That Wiggins/Wisemen is intriguing to me, if we can stack that with more young assets.

Trade CJ, Roco and Nurk for more young assets too. Keep Simons.
 
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I don’t think it needs to be blown up even if you trade Dame. You have a relatively decent nucleus. Trading dame for someone like Barrett (NY) and draft picks then hope you get lucky on some draft picks. Need to optimize those draft picks, got to be lottery picks. That might mean getting third team involved and more assets
 
1 Eye Jack said:
I don’t think it needs to be blown up even if you trade Dame. You have a relatively decent nucleus. Trading dame for someone like Barrett (NY) and draft picks then hope you get lucky on some draft picks. Need to optimize those draft picks, got to be lottery picks. That might mean getting third team involved and more assets
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Dame for RJ Barrett and draft picks the Knicks have is not even close to what we can get for him. Also I'm not down and I don't think the fan base is cool with taking a far lesser player for Dame, some picks that will be virtually second rounders and rolling with what we currently have. What we currently with Dame is not good enough. If Dame goes, it will be for a lot more than you're suggesting and we will need this team blown up.
 
Natebishop3 said:
They should just run the NBA like a fantasy league. Put all the players back into a pool at the beginning of each season and re-draft. How much more interesting would the league be?
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i like that! Hard cap every team every year and they are allowed to spend how they want, all one year contracts. Players can bet on themselves by denying the draft and accompanied contract offer by going back in the pool in hopes of being drafted later but for more money.
It might make the draft more interesting than the games themselves though!
 
Trade CJ for Simmons

Send Nurkic and Collins to Golden State for Wiseman and #7 pick (select best PF stud available)

re-Sign Powell, Kanter and Melo

seek a free agent wing - Grant

Dame / Ant / Vet point
Powell / Lou Williams / Ellesby
Grant / Little
Simmons / RoCo / Melo / Rookie #7 pick
Wiseman/ Kanter / Rookie

Melo will play some spot minutes - maybe even as Player-coach! Key here is Melo Can teach the youngins
 
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BoomChakaLaka said:
Trade CJ for Simmons

Send Nurkic and Collins to Golden State for Wiseman and #7 pick (select best PF stud available)

re-Sign Powell, Kanter and Melo

seek a free agent wing - Grant

Dame / Ant / Vet point
Powell / Lou Williams / Ellesby
Grant / Little
Simmons / RoCo / Melo / Rookie #7 pick
Wiseman/ Kanter / Rookie

Melo will play some spot minutes - maybe even as Player-coach! Key here is Melo Can teach the youngins
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What Grant?
 
Question: if Dame does get traded, do we go back to saying Drexler is the greatest Blazer? (After all, he's still ahead of Dame on Win Scores, and he will have been a Blazer longer.)
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
Trade CJ for Simmons
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This just ain't going to happen. Philly would rather hold on to Simmons than not get a superstar in return. Philly wants to win in the East and they've got to go through Brooklyn - there's no way you do that with Embiid as your only star. (Remember: Simmons has been an All-Star at least twice, while CJ hasn't, and is a good deal older.)
 
Mediocre Man said:
Dame to GS for Wiggins, Wiseman, 7, 14

CJ to Philly for Simmons

Nurk and Leaf to NY for Barrett and 21 (Chris Duarte)

7 and 14 for 4 (Jalen Suggs)

Wiseman
Simmons
Wiggins
Barrett
Suggs
Simons
Nas
Duarte

Nice young core
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how long before they blow it up again though?
 
Step 1: CJ/Simmons Trade

Step 2: Nurk+Pick/Charlotte #11/Wood+Augustin Trade
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Step 3: DJJ/Thad Young Trade
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Step 3: Re-sign
* Norm - 4/$90M
* Zach - 2/Minimum (~$4M)
* Kanter - 2/$10M

Step 4: Sign
* Cousins - 1/Minimum
* Ennis III - 3/$10M (part of Tax MLE)
* Alec Burks (or Garrett Temple) - 3/$10M (remaining part of Tax MLE)

Roster:
PG: Dame, Augustin, Simons
SG: Norm, Burks, Elleby
SF: Simmons, Ennis, Little
PF: RoCo, Young, Zach
C: Wood, Kanter, Cousins

Pick up a couple of UDFA for 2-way contracts or purchased 2nd Rounders. (McKinley Wright [PG], Charles Bassey [C], EJ Onu [PF], Quentin Grimes [SG])
 

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EL PRESIDENTE said:
The only way to build is through the draft. Stack draft picks, short contracts, and tank the fuck out for about 5-6 years.
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This is how it's done. Trade for loads of high draft picks and pay to bring in the best talent evaluators and GM.

If you make thw mistake of trading Dame.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Make a trade that somehow involves either Houston or OKC and get as many of their picks as possible.
Does Houston want Simmons? Dame to Philly, Simmons to Houston, we get the #2 (and maybe Matisse Thybulle).
Does OKC want Simmons? Will they give up SGA? No? Okay, be prepared to give up a fuckton of picks, starting with the #6 (Scottie Barnes?) along with this
(Philly also gives up an unprotected first or two):
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Yes, I know, Kemba - ugh. But he used to put up eerily similar stats to Dame (at least at the starts of seasons), so we hold on to him to flip him in February or thereabouts. Ditto for CJ, UNLESS the Rockets give us the #2 as part of this (perhaps we give them the #6, but hold out for a lesser pick or two):
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Then we get a trio of young defensive studs (Thybulle, Dort, Tate) plus the #2 (I'd take Mobley) and suddenly you've got the workings of a really stellar defensive team.
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I hate all of those moves (sorry). Setting my personal thoughts aside: do "really stellar defensive teams" win anything in the NBA these days?
 
Ed O said:
I hate all of those moves (sorry). Setting my personal thoughts aside: do "really stellar defensive teams" win anything in the NBA these days?
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There is the fact that the Suns had the third best defensive rating in the league this season and it was basically a tie for second with the Clippers. So I do think having a dominant defense with a good offense can still win chips.
 
Ed O said:
I hate all of those moves (sorry). Setting my personal thoughts aside: do "really stellar defensive teams" win anything in the NBA these days?
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The top 12 teams in Drtg all went to the playoffs.

The finals features 2 teams in the top 10.

Those teams were 9th and 10th, but that is very deceiving, as both were closer to 6th than to 11th.

There was one team who was 29th in Drtg, and they very much underperformed in the playoffs, leading to rifts within the team and organization, including firing their coach.

So, yeah, defense is still pretty damn important.
 
This is my new plan if Dame really requests a trade and remember when he's asked about it he's just going to go back to saying that he's only talking to the team about stuff like that.

If it's true it's a sad day and I put it on Olshey (wasn't supposed to rhyme). That being said the job is now to secure the one generational talent that's actually on the board and more talent with him. Simmons, Shake (others might want Thybulle which is fine) this draft's 28th pick and a future first.

That can only be the first step though. Again only if this is true and Dame is demanding out and who wouldn't want out of this shit show right now, we have to keep going and build a team around Simmons that fits him and his timeline... I would even think about getting players younger and end up with Simmons as the elder statesman. CJ will have to go and the Knicks make the most sense but I would do it for picks, all picks. I think CJ would yield the 19th, 21st and 31st.

Then Nurk should be placed somewhere else because him and Simmons together is a non starter. Charlotte could actually renounce their capholds on Zeller and Biz and just send back picks. I think we could get the 11th pick in this draft for Nurk and a future first.

RoCo should yield a prospect and a pick from a contender.

So after all of that we would end up with Ant, Shake, Simmons, Nas, DJJ (he would opt in) and CJE on the roster who with Simmons trade kicker would take up about 55M of the cap. We would have picks 11, 21, 28 and 31 and whatever pick we got for RoCo. I would draft Kai Jones to start at C with 11 and with the rest of the picks we'd just get the best shooter/athletes we could while filling positions. All of the picks and the prospect we got for RoCo would probably be about 22M hat would put us at 76M. That would give us enough cap space to sign John Collins to a max deal. We could sign Nerlens Noel with a good chunk of the MLE. The fact is our roster would look something like:

Ant, Shake, Simmons, Collins, Kai Jones, DJJ, Noel, CJE, the prospect and pick from RoCo and picks 21, 28 and 31 and two two-way players. That team would make the playoffs next season without a doubt and be scary to play but more scary they'd just get better and better.
 
blazerkor said:
This is my new plan if Dame really requests a trade and remember when he's asked about it he's just going to go back to saying that he's only talking to the team about stuff like that.

If it's true it's a sad day and I put it on Olshey (wasn't supposed to rhyme). That being said the job is now to secure the one generational talent that's actually on the board and more talent with him. Simmons, Shake (others might want Thybulle which is fine) this draft's 28th pick and a future first.

That can only be the first step though. Again only if this is true and Dame is demanding out and who wouldn't want out of this shit show right now, we have to keep going and build a team around Simmons that fits him and his timeline... I would even think about getting players younger and end up with Simmons as the elder statesman. CJ will have to go and the Knicks make the most sense but I would do it for picks, all picks. I think CJ would yield the 19th, 21st and 31st.

Then Nurk should be placed somewhere else because him and Simmons together is a non starter. Charlotte could actually renounce their capholds on Zeller and Biz and just send back picks. I think we could get the 11th pick in this draft for Nurk and a future first.

RoCo should yield a prospect and a pick from a contender.

So after all of that we would end up with Ant, Shake, Simmons, Nas, DJJ (he would opt in) and CJE on the roster who with Simmons trade kicker would take up about 55M of the cap. We would have picks 11, 21, 28 and 31 and whatever pick we got for RoCo. I would draft Kai Jones to start at C with 11 and with the rest of the picks we'd just get the best shooter/athletes we could while filling positions. All of the picks and the prospect we got for RoCo would probably be about 22M hat would put us at 76M. That would give us enough cap space to sign John Collins to a max deal. We could sign Nerlens Noel with a good chunk of the MLE. The fact is our roster would look something like:

Ant, Shake, Simmons, Collins, Kai Jones, DJJ, Noel, CJE, the prospect and pick from RoCo and picks 21, 28 and 31 and two two-way players. That team would make the playoffs next season without a doubt and be scary to play but more scary they'd just get better and better.
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We'd need to draft a leader, cuz I don't see one in the guys we would be retaining. And i would worry about having Simmons on a team without a strong leader.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
We'd need to draft a leader, cuz I don't see one in the guys we would be retaining. And i would worry about having Simmons on a team without a strong leader.
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Well, that's a lot of picks so we could probably find a pretty high character guy that's been team captain a bunch of times but if we did those moves, we would be so young that Chauncey, one of the better leaders I've seen in basketball, would be teaching these young men how to lead.
 
Well, if Dame leaves, we have no choice but to blow it all up. Fire Olshey, make Jody sell the team, start fresh.
 
Just going to bump this one instead of creating a new one.

What are people thinking? This is assuming that Dame asks out.

Here would be my rebuild:

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And then I would take one of those picks and package it with this

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Re-sign Grant for the $130 over 5 years.

Scoot/Dinwiddie
Sharpe/Harris/Rupert
OG/Thybulle/Murray
Grant/Thad/Clowney/Walker
Claxton/Eubanks/Watford

We would still need a power forward of the future. OG is only 25 so he still fits the timeline.

Players I would be looking to move or cut:
Grant
Dinwiddie
Harris
Thad
Keon Johnson
Knox
 
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