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Siakam is trending because of all the Warriors trade talks. (7/Wiseman) Maybe Dame knows something we don't, or maybe he's just interested that Siakam may be available...
Ya my first thought was the trending topic.

But that idea not just 7/wiseman, but also would have to send wiggins out. while he is maple jordan in theory, i highly doubt that contract would appeal to toronto.

I wonder if we can do something with Nurk and bunch of assets for Siakam. Need to find a multi-team deal. Pascal would be a great big man next to Simmons.
 
Ya my first thought was the trending topic.

But that idea not just 7/wiseman, but also would have to send wiggins out. while he is maple jordan in theory, i highly doubt that contract would appeal to toronto.

I wonder if we can do something with Nurk and bunch of assets for Siakam. Need to find a multi-team deal. Pascal would be a great big man next to Simmons.

Only two years left on Wiggins deal. What's the point of taking Nurk if they think he's an asset? They will need to re-sign him. He's on Siakam's timeline in terms of age but not better. Bunch of other assets also means trying to fill the 15 million salary difference. DJ + Nas at the very least.
 
Still too much.
Yeh, i would probably go one less draft pick. Would like to not trade Little but I think they would insist on him being included. I really wish Stotts had played Little more so we would know better what we have.
 
According to the trade you can get Simmons for CJ straight up. I would definitely do that.
Yeah my point was more that if it costs slightly more to get Simmons (CJ + Change) I’d much prefer that.

CJ for Simmons seems obvious.

I’m not even high on Simmons but Siakam is not worth CJ, Nas and 2 firsts. I’d honestly hang up the phone if that’s what it took. Probably while laughing.
 
Siakam >>> Simmons
I’m not even a Simmons fan — he’s a better player — and in my opinion it’s actually not that close. One is a 3x all star; one is 1x. Siakam can shoot better, sure, but Simmons literally does everything else better.

Simmons is also younger.

Has a higher OWS and DWS on lower usage, also.
 
Nurk/RoCo/2 1st(future) for Pascal works financially.

CJ to Indy for Turner/LeVert also works.

Dame
Powell/Simons
LeVert/Nas
Siakam
Turner/Collins

Is that better than what we have?
 
I’m not even a Simmons fan — he’s a better player — and in my opinion it’s actually not that close. One is a 3x all star; one is 1x. Siakam can shoot better, sure, but Simmons literally does everything else better.

Simmons is also younger.

Has a higher OWS and DWS on lower usage, also.
I want a #2 who won't wilter in the playoffs and can play off Dame.
 
I want a #2 who won't wilter in the playoffs and can play off Dame.
CJ McCollum historically has been better in the playoffs than Pascal Siakam. Ben Simmons has been better too.

Ben Simmons has been *much better* than Siakam, actually.

But ok.
 
CJ McCollum historically has been better in the playoffs than Pascal Siakam. Ben Simmons has been better too.

Ben Simmons has been *much better* than Siakam, actually.

But ok.
Meh, Siakam is 10x the defender that C.J. is and is a much better playmaker for his position. He's struggled as the #1 but he wouldn't have to be the #1 in Portland. Saying that Ben Simmons has been a better playoff performer than Siakam is false. Siakam played like a #2 on a team that won a championship. Simmons can't get out of the 2nd Round as the #2 or the #3 and this past season played like he was a G-Leaguer who just got called up and wasn't ready for the bright lights.

But if you can sell Toronto on Simmons > Siakam then we could save a future 1st.
 
Bring in a veteran true PG off the bench and let Ant develop into the Seth Curry SG role, but with way more athleticism, that fits his game. He’s not a PG and refusing addressing that this off-season is crucial and a fireable miss as I see it.

Re-sign Powell. Jody has the dough to cover the tax.

Not sure who’s available in a trade of CJ or Nurkic so for now, the above two things are the bare minimum.
 
Here's my shot. If Boston is still open you send them a 1st round pick plus an opted in DJJ (for salary purposes, plus maybe Boston finds a use for him he is young), for Smart the 2022 1st round pick with Lottery protection. Then use Billups pull and LA's impending humiliating loss to the Suns, to get Montrezel Harrell to seek greener pastures in the NW. Don't extend QO to Zach and let him walk and pay Montrezel Zach's salary plus whatever more we can afford after re-signing powell. You also let Melo and Kanter walk. I'd resign Melo for a Vet min if he understands his role will be extremely limited.

Finally, the centerpiece (which you do first) a trade of CJ for Simmons that you can bid up to CJ + Little + 2024 Pick Top 8 protected. Heck, you can make it unprotected if need be, but I'd try to have my price at about what I show below.


PG: Lillard/Smart/Ant
SG: Powell/Ant/CJ2
SF: Simmons/RoCo/Powell
PF: RoCo/Harrell/Melo on vet min?
C: Nurk/Harrell/Giles

That team is switchable, long, feisty and able to defend and rebound. They also can definitely score with Dame, Nurk, Powell, Simmons, Ant, Smart (clutch buckets) and Harrell cleaning up around the rim.


Thoughts?

CJ for Simmons and get Smart.jpg
 
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Here's my shot. If Boston is still open you send them a 1st round pick plus an opted in DJJ (for salary purposes, plus maybe Boston finds a use for him he is young), for Smart the 2022 1st round pick with Lottery protection. Then use Billups pull and LA's impending humiliating loss to the Suns, to get Montrezel Harrell to seek greener pastures in the NW. Don't extend QO to Zach and let him walk and pay Montrezel Zach's salary plus whatever more we can afford after re-signing powell. You also let Melo and Kanter walk. I'd resign Melo for a Vet min if he understands his role will be extremely limited.

Finally, the centerpiece (which you do first) a trade of CJ for Simmons that you can bid up to CJ + Little + 2024 Pick Top 8 protected. Heck, you can make it unprotected if need be, but I'd try to have my price at about what I show below.


PG: Lillard/Smart/Ant
SG: Powell/Ant/CJ2
SF: Simmons/RoCo/Powell
PF: RoCo/Harrell/Melo on vet min?
C: Nurk/Harrell/Giles

That team is switchable, long, feisty and able to defend and rebound. They also can definitely score with Dame, Nurk, Powell, Simmons, Ant, Smart (clutch buckets) and Harrell cleaning up around the rim.


Thoughts?

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This is really good. The only problem I have with it is that Nurk doesn't spread the floor... if somehow he did get to where he could knock down 2 out of 5 open threes a game, then I would love this roster. The way it stands, if we trade for Simmons which I am all for, then we should trade Nurk realizing that Simmons gives us some flexibility on what we can take back because he can play any position on the court.
 
This is really good. The only problem I have with it is that Nurk doesn't spread the floor... if somehow he did get to where he could knock down 2 out of 5 open threes a game, then I would love this roster. The way it stands, if we trade for Simmons which I am all for, then we should trade Nurk realizing that Simmons gives us some flexibility on what we can take back because he can play any position on the court.
I agree about Trading Nurk. I mean if we could swap him and assets for Myles Turner I'd make that happen, or John Collins even. Wait can Collins hit a 3? I honestly don't know and more importantly, I'm too lazy to look.

Swapping Nurk for a modern stretch 4 or 5. Keep in mind you can play Simmons 1-5 which is a HUGE part of why I want him. Having a godlike player who can play the 1-5 is such a luxury and fills so many holes.You can even play Simmons at Center and I think we need to consider that if we trade Nurk.

Here's Simmons (for the doubters if there are any here) going for a near trip dub of 42 points 12 rebounds and 9 assists. He was playing out of position at center going up against league laughing stock defense of the pitiful Utah Jazz. Him doing this to Rudy Gobert means take it with a grain of salt, that guy is a sieve on defense. ;)

 
This is really good. The only problem I have with it is that Nurk doesn't spread the floor... if somehow he did get to where he could knock down 2 out of 5 open threes a game, then I would love this roster. The way it stands, if we trade for Simmons which I am all for, then we should trade Nurk realizing that Simmons gives us some flexibility on what we can take back because he can play any position on the court.

Is it crazy I kinda want a Gallinari type next to RoCo and Simmons? You know who would be insane next to Simmons and Lillard? KAT. With his 3pt shooting and RoCo, Powell and Simmons defense plus Lillard? How do you stop that? But yeah no idea how you pull that off. That's the ultimate for a big next to Simmons, but not sure who fits the bill of a 3 and D PF or C?
 
Is it crazy I kinda want a Gallinari type next to RoCo and Simmons? You know who would be insane next to Simmons and Lillard? KAT. With his 3pt shooting and RoCo, Powell and Simmons defense plus Lillard? How do you stop that? But yeah no idea how you pull that off. That's the ultimate for a big next to Simmons, but not sure who fits the bill of a 3 and D PF or C?
Yeah, KAT would be phenomenal. I think Chris Boucher fits. I floated the idea of trading Nurk for him and Baynes. Start Boucher.
 
Given the press conference today I would be surprised if Nurk is traded or Simmons is brought in. It sounds like they want the offense to run through Nurk more and adding Simmons would be counter to that.

I would be more looking at someone like Harrison Barnes who can play off the ball or create if needed. Well rounded player who is probably easier to obtain.
 
Given the press conference today I would be surprised if Nurk is traded or Simmons is brought in. It sounds like they want the offense to run through Nurk more and adding Simmons would be counter to that.

I would be more looking at someone like Harrison Barnes who can play off the ball or create if needed. Well rounded player who is probably easier to obtain.
I think that Chauncey was talking about what he would do with what he has today. I don't think he'd turn down a better player and Simmons is better because he thinks Nurk or CJ are good and he can imagine using them better than they've been used.
 
Yeah, KAT would be phenomenal. I think Chris Boucher fits. I floated the idea of trading Nurk for him and Baynes. Start Boucher.
I can't see Toronto dealing Boucher, but yes, swapping CJ and Nurk for Simmons and Boucher--and then using the MLE to sign a vet backup PG--sounds like a home run of an off-season to me.
 
I think that Chauncey was talking about what he would do with what he has today. I don't think he'd turn down a better player and Simmons is better because he thinks Nurk or CJ are good and he can imagine using them better than they've been used.
Yeah that's how I interpreted that part of the press conference as well. Talk about under the microscope. Olshey's words are meaningless, but Billups are tactical as he can't be talking about theoretical trades especially when one of the likely to be traded guys is like RIGHT THERE.

I took nothing away from today's presser other than Blazers claim to have done due diligence as did Disney, ESPN, LA Clippers and whatever the other team was where he flamed out as an FO guy Indy?

Btw Kor, this Boucher guy is intriguing. I don't watch a ton of Eastern conference games as I don't watch a ton of non-Blazers games so some EC guys are off my radar as Boucher appears to be. I LOVE THIS as a follow up trade to Simmons for CJ. BTW, if that CJ for Simmons trade is there and Neil doesn't close it, I want his head on a pike over the Steel Bridge as a warning to the incoming GM to never ever, EVER blow a trade this fucking key and certainly don't miss TWICE on an elite two way wing (blah blah Simmons cant' shoot, yeah he can score though) due to not wanting to throw in our resident wine connoisseur and boundary-defying shooting guard. I will seriously lose my mind. NEIL CLOSE THE FUCKING DEAL!
 
Yeah, KAT would be phenomenal. I think Chris Boucher fits. I floated the idea of trading Nurk for him and Baynes. Start Boucher.

Not a bad idea. Never thought it would happen but Boucher has turned out to be a prototype stretch 4 in this league. Maybe being only 200 lbs helps him stay healthy. No weight on those knees or feet. He can shoot the 3, defend the 3, run the floor, block some shots. But I would rather sign a FA for that position and keep Nurk.
 
Nurk/RoCo/2 1st(future) for Pascal works financially.

CJ to Indy for Turner/LeVert also works.

Dame
Powell/Simons
LeVert/Nas
Siakam
Turner/Collins

Is that better than what we have?

Replacing 80% in f the starting line-up would be a bold move, I’ll give you that
interesting videos:




Trae Young has shown that a floater is now again an offensive weapon in the way the game has evolved and prior to Trae, was there a better player with that shot in the NBA? I’d like to see more of CJ in the pick and roll with that already in his repertoire.

Obviously improving the defense is priority one but taking some offensive pressure off of Dame needs to happen, too.
 
Btw Kor, this Boucher guy is intriguing. I don't watch a ton of Eastern conference games as I don't watch a ton of non-Blazers games so some EC guys are off my radar as Boucher appears to be. !

I know all about Boucher as I'm an Oregon Duck alum and fan.His senior year as a Duck I kind of though he could be an impactful unorthodox NBA big. But the NBA has evolved so rapidly h3's actually one of those 3&D bigs and is very valuable. He can defend inside and on the perimeter. A player who can shoot above 38% on three's, post a 15% rebound rate, and be 3rd in the NBA in blocked-shot percentage has pretty high value

as a Duck fan, I'm still heartbroken that Boucher got injured toward the end of his senior season. The Ducks made it to the final-4 without him, and there they lost by one point to the national champion NC Tarheels because of a missed rebound on a FT. If Boucher hadn't been injured, Oregon would have won the championship
 
interesting videos:




My main takeaway from the second video (I haven't finished it yet and I know this my biggest takeaway) is that Paul Pierce borders on full blown dementia despite being in his 40's. I mean wtf Jalen Rose brings up Rajon Rondo having a broken shot, but then becoming almost a volume 3pt shooters which Rajon Rondo chuckles about and addresses. Then Paul Pierce appears to drool on himself before commenting and then repeats what everyone says and even throws in "Like a Rajon Rondo". It's like, Paul he's literally sitting 6 inches to your left. You either have a CJ-like lack of peripheral vision or a 2 digit IQ.
 

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