Zach Collins Dislocated Shoulder

[B-Roy]

I get that, but I think people are reading way too much into it. It could be as simple as a doctor saying I don't see any significant damage, but I'd like another set of images just to confirm it. You don't issue a statement on a timeline until the medical team is confidant that they have all of the information that they need to make a solid recommendation. OTOH, worst case, if Zach needs surgery and misses a good chunk or all of the rest of the season, that simply pushes Olshey to make a trade for a more established PF, which is something that a lot of folks around here favor anyway.

The way I look at it is, if its good news, it would have been out. So it's probably not good news, or at least not ideal news.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Further testing is never good, considering they've had the MRI results for days now. If it was good news, it would be out, you never hold good news.

Yeah but if it was bad news they would know too. This to me looks like it is somewhere in between.

 

[tlongII]

The way I look at it is, if its good news, it would have been out. So it's probably not good news, or at least not ideal news.

I understand your point of view, but if it was serious I would have expected Zach to fly back to PDX immediately for treatment. Keeping him with the team on the road trip makes no sense if he's seriously hurt.

 

[e_blazer]

I'm just in the wait an see mode. If it's a bigger injury, it sucks for Zach, but Olshey has options. It's not a Curry-type situation.

 

[Labinot41]

When they bring Moses back from the G league, it'll tell me it's going to be awhile...what a great move to pick him up from preseason. Might need the kid sooner than planned

If this dude plays the Blazers are in trouble.

 

[Dougnsalem]

TRADE COLLINS! TRADE WHITESIDE! They both are injury prone cripples! Let's do like BGD wants, and get Kevin Love. He NEVER gets injured!


(That doesn't really need green font, does it???)

 

[stampedehero]

Fortunately he is young. When he gets back an awkward thrust for a rebound can put him back on the bench. Hope Not.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I understand your point of view, but if it was serious I would have expected Zach to fly back to PDX immediately for treatment. Keeping him with the team on the road trip makes no sense if he's seriously hurt.

I think there's a few things here, it could be serious but also not require surgery, which they may have said it's an injury that will just require it to be stabalized and it needs "rest" so flying home wont do any good. It could also be not all that serious. I still haven't heard anything concrete about it.

 

[BigGameDamian]

They've got to know what's going on. I think they are trying to figure out the best way to tell the fans that he's done.

 

[B-Roy]

Yeah but if it was bad new they would know too. This to me looks like it is somewhere in between.

Not necessarily. The initial prognosis may be really bad and they want to see if there is anything that can be done to have him out for less time.

My guess is, he needs surgery, but they are looking for second opinions to see if he can rest it off for a few weeks and not require surgery which would put him out months.

 

[Dougnsalem]

They've got to know what's going on. I think they are trying to figure out the best way to tell the fans that he's done.

Ok Nancy, you're back on ignore.....

Lol

 

[theprunetang]

The long wait for news is because they have already cut Zach's arm off with a bone saw, and just aren't sure how to tell us yet. Facts.

 

[Orion Bailey]

So which is it?

This is pretty bad news imo. He's out for awhile...

IM crying....

They've got to know what's going on. I think they are trying to figure out the best way to tell the fans that he's done.

Dude!........You don't speak these things. They come to fruition. You have been around longer than me and should know this!

 

[julius]

They've got to know what's going on. I think they are trying to figure out the best way to tell the fans that he's done.

My guess is they're waiting to tell us fans Damian drinks like a fish first.

 

[riverman]

The long wait for news is because they have already cut Zach's arm off with a bone saw, and just aren't sure how to tell us yet. Facts.

The new titanium one is going to rock though...Zach will morph slowly into Robocop

 

[HailBlazers]

The new titanium one is going to rock though...Zach will morph slowly into Robocop

And Blast Out Corruption in the NBA officiating ranks. The Hardens of the world will be toast.

 

[B-Roy]

If this is Zachs first dislocation he definitely has a torn labrum. It’s the ligament that connects the shoulder joint to the arm. The only question is how severe. They have had the MRI results for half a week already, and it probably shows a tear. The second opinion is most likely trying to determine how bad it is and whether or not surgery is needed.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/shoulder-labrum-tear

 

[BonesJones]

Further testing is never good, considering they've had the MRI results for days now. If it was good news, it would be out, you never hold good news.

I disagree. They're probably trying to determine if he needs surgery or not. If he needed surgery they would've done the surgery already and wouldn't be waiting.

 

[BonesJones]

If this is Zachs first dislocation he definitely has a torn labrum. It’s the ligament that connects the shoulder joint to the arm. The only question is how severe. They have had the MRI results for half a week already, and it probably shows a tear. The second opinion is most likely trying to determine how bad it is and whether or not surgery is needed.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/shoulder-labrum-tear

Why's it "definite"?

 

[B-Roy]

Why's it "definite"?

Well for one you can’t really dislocate your shoulder without tearing your labrum to some degree.

 

[BonesJones]

They've got to know what's going on. I think they are trying to figure out the best way to tell the fans that he's done.

That's the most ridiculous "guess" in this thread.

We just saw Nurk snap his leg in half. There is no "best way to tell the fans". They'd have to tell us at some point anyway. And they'd do as they've always done, which is state his injury and recovery timeline.

 

[BonesJones]

Well for one you can’t really dislocate your shoulder without tearing your labrum to some degree.

It's not unheard of though, and everything I've read is that a dislocated shoulder is likely to "damage" the labrum in some way, not definitively tear it.

It also might've only been a partial dislocation, which increases the likelihood the labrum is fine.

 

[kjironman1]

My guess is they're waiting to tell us fans Damian drinks like a fish first.

 

[B-Roy]

It's not unheard of though, and everything I've read is that a dislocated shoulder is likely to "damage" the labrum in some way, not definitively tear it.

It also might've only been a partial dislocation, which increases the likelihood the labrum is fine.

from what I’ve read, If it’s a full dislocation, there’s an extremely high chance the labrum is injured. If it’s a partial dislocation, there’s a chance it’s not injured. Fairly sure Zachs was a full dislocation although I forgot where I saw that.

even if it’s torn, surgery many not be required. Which is probably what they’re trying to determine right now. It depends on how severely it’s torn.

 

[kjironman1]

The new titanium one is going to rock though...Zach will morph slowly into Robocop

The Nerds around here would prefer a Borg technology i'm sure.

 

[BonesJones]

The shoulder "went back in pretty cleanly" which means it may have only been partial or may not have damaged his labrum. Usually a labrum tear includes "catching of the shoulder", but Collins said his range of motion was pretty good after the game, which says to me that there's a definite chance the labrum isn't torn and that the only reason his range of motion wasn't completely fine was because of swelling in his shoulder.

 

[BonesJones]

from what I’ve read, If it’s a full dislocation, there’s an extremely high chance the labrum is injured. If it’s a partial dislocation, there’s a chance it’s not injured. Fairly sure Zachs was a full dislocation although I forgot where I saw that.

even if it’s torn, surgery many not be required. Which is probably what they’re trying to determine right now. It depends on how severely it’s torn.

I haven't seen anything like that. I'm just reading up and it's not impossible to fully dislocated your shoulder without damaging the labrum.

I'm assuming there's some damage though, and they're trying to determine the extent and the best course of action moving forward.

 

[B-Roy]

I haven't seen anything like that. I'm just reading up and it's not impossible to fully dislocated your shoulder without damaging the labrum.

I'm assuming there's some damage though, and they're trying to determine the extent and the best course of action moving forward.

I’m not saying it’s not possible. None of us are doctors here. But just from the information we have:

An MRI has been done, and it would show if there’s ligament damage.

if there’s no ligament damage it’s just a pain tolerance thing, which they should announce him as day to day or out for a few weeks.

it’s been 4 days since the MRI and no word - that leads me to believe the MRI has revealed at least some ligament damage.

yes they’re trying to determine the best course of action. Either way he’s looking to be out for awhile and we’re definitely not in the most optimal scenario.

 

[kjironman1]

I haven't seen anything like that. I'm just reading up and it's not impossible to fully dislocated your shoulder without damaging the labrum.

I'm assuming there's some damage though, and they're trying to determine the extent and the best course of action moving forward.

Well that is pretty much what they have said. There is obviously a shoulder injury and "...they will continue to monitor it to determine the extent of the injury". I'm with ya on this.

 

[hoopsjock]

For the record, I fully dislocated my shoulder playing football back in college. It went back in clean and was sore for about a month, no tears at all or any other damage. That was about 17-18 years ago and I haven't had a single issue with it since. I may have just gotten super lucky though.