Zach Collins' old tweets as a kid

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Five. Fucking. Years. Ago
he was fucking 14.

Seriously every year they should sit all the guys comming in the draft and tell them "go through your whole twitter history and delete all the dumb shit you wrote when you were fucking twelve years old".

That's ridiculous
 
For Jeff Sessions, its criminal.
 
Even in generation snowflake this shouldn't be news.

Every generation is generation snowflake. Think of how badly the previous' generation's feelings have been hurt by the idea of gay rights. Trump is the very epitome of a snowflake and not of this generation. Every generation thinks what they care about matters and what the next generation cares about is stupid. The popularization of the term "snowflake" is all that's new.

As to the original question, I wouldn't say he's a homophobe because he tweeted some homophobic stuff at age 14. It was stupid and immature, but one hopes he's matured since then.
 
Pirates used to call their loot booty! He is now a milionare overnight. Just sayin':mook:
 
Every generation is generation snowflake. Think of how badly the previous' generation's feelings have been hurt by the idea of gay rights. Trump is the very epitome of a snowflake and not of this generation. Every generation thinks what they care about matters and what the next generation cares about is stupid. The popularization of the term "snowflake" is all that's new.

As to the original question, I wouldn't say he's a homophobe because he tweeted some homophobic stuff at age 14. It was stupid and immature, but one hopes he's matured since then.

How many of those generations tried to end free speech and discourse because differing opinions are the same as physical assault? Be specific. I'll wait.
 
How many of those generations tried to end free speech and discourse because differing opinions are the same as physical assault? Be specific. I'll wait.

Every generation has had a deep contempt for people saying things they dislike. No generation, including this one, has "tried to end free speech." But it's largely the older generations (and I, myself, am not part of the current generation) who have tried to block things like gay rights despite it not materially damaging them--it's the ultimate in "my feelings would be hurt, so I want legislation against it." (And you can go back further and apply the same to "anti-miscegenation laws.")
 
Every generation has had a deep contempt for people saying things they dislike. No generation, including this one, has "tried to end free speech." But it's largely the older generations (and I, myself, am not part of the current generation) who have tried to block things like gay rights despite it not materially damaging them--it's the ultimate in "my feelings would be hurt, so I want legislation against it." (And you can go back further and apply the same to "anti-miscegenation laws.")

1) you provided no example as requested;
2) if you believe free speech is not under attack then you are either not paying attention or you are dishonest. See UC Berkeley, Evergreen State College, etc.
 
I'd be more concerned with the words of a 50 year old than a 14 year old.
 
1) you provided no example as requested;

Because I found your premise invalid. I provided examples of older generations trying to legislate away things that make them "feel bad" (which is supposed to be the snowflake thing).

2) if you believe free speech is not under attack then you are either not paying attention or you are dishonest. See UC Berkeley, Evergreen State College, etc.

Conservatives have insisted that "free speech is under attack" on college campuses since at least the 1960s.
 
Anyone who says they didn't use inappropriate words, whether inappropriate words out of context or in correct form, in their youth is a liar. And the older generations, in general, used some of them freely as if it was an accurate or proper way to depict someone.

Let's not be so judgmental with an immature 14-year old.
 
Don't confuse private entities disallowing visitors from speaking as attacking free speech, no one took their free speech away, they took away their platform. No one was threatened by the government or jailed for speaking, they just weren't allowed the stage to present their ideology.

However, a lady was convicted for laughing at Jeff Sessions confirmation hearing, now that is an attack on free speech....just not from the side you'd hoped it to be.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/us/code-pink-sessions-laughter-trial.html
 
Zach's agent needs to be fired. Seriously, one of the first jobs an agent needs to do is go over his client's social media accounts. We're not talking about something that is very hard.

Also the NBA needs to have an intern go over the social media accounts of every player who declares for the draft. Again, not hard.

And if our president gets a pass for saying stupid shit on twitter then a 14yr old should too.
 
Public universities are nor private entities.

As to the original post, meh. There are enough dumb comments made by adults to worry about, teenagers aren't worth the time.
 
Because I found your premise invalid.

How convenient. Strait by the playbook. If you can't support your position, then just claim the premise is invalid. Next step is to call me a Nazi and you can be finished.
 
FYI I'm jumping out of this thread as I really hate this kind of trashing of a person for something they said on social media years ago. I understand it is "news" but i would just as soon see us not trash our own players by promoting crap like this.
 
FYI I'm jumping out of this thread as I really hate this kind of trashing of a person for something they said on social media years ago. I understand it is "news" but i would just as soon see us not trash our own players by promoting crap like this.

Isn't there only one person "trashing" him?
 
How convenient. Strait by the playbook. If you can't support your position, then just claim the premise is invalid.

I supported my position just fine. You're the one who threw out a claim, unsupported by evidence. As Red Rooster noted, a college not offering time for certain points of view is not relevant to free speech, any more than this forum editing posts that don't follow guidelines is "an attack on free speech." Free speech is protection from the government blocking your speech, not private entities.

Further, anecdotal incidents aren't evidence for something as sweeping as "taking away freedom of speech."

Further, what you consider a novel phenomenon is something that conservatives have alleged for decades. Even if you were right (rather than interpreting events through your philosophical filter), it wouldn't be unique to this generation.

Maybe if you actually support your position with evidence, filling in the gigantic logical holes, it wouldn't be labeled "invalid." You can't just toss out a completely unsupported premise, demand the debate assume your premise is true and then sarcastically say that it's "straight out of the playbook" when your premise is taken apart. Not if you want to be taken seriously.
 
FYI I'm jumping out of this thread as I really hate this kind of trashing of a person for something they said on social media years ago.

It's interesting that you'd say this, when you've been primarily arguing with me and I didn't trash him. Perhaps there are other reasons you want to "jump out of this" but that's none of my business.
 

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