Zach Collins' old tweets as a kid

[Minstrel]

To be fair to Clippy, in context, I'm pretty sure he meant "your kind" as "chickenshit" or some similar sentiment (because he alleged dviss wouldn't fight him one-on-one, but would join a group pile-on) not as a racial thing. Of course, it's pretty ignorant not to see the racial overtones of a turn of phrase like that.

And to be clear, I'm not calling dviss chickenshit or anything similar. Just pointing out what I think Clippy meant.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Your intentions don't matter. You're still using a term that applies to the homosexual community as an insult.

This 1000x.

Why is it so hard to understand that perpetuating the use of the word gay in a negative context is offensive - and not just to gay people (but ESPECIALLY to them).

BNM

 

[dviss1]

I see how it would which is why I don't use it in front of gay people, you see. There are gays who also use that word in the same way, there are different people out there with different views on words. I don't mean it to harm anybody, it is used in a comical way with close friends away from the public and barely as is, we can agree to disagree.

By the way, I think you provide the most quality posts on here when it comes to basketball. Not trying to suck your dick but they are 10/10 posts, would like again

If you're not going to use it in front of gay people, why use it at all?

 

[Cippy91]

I'm just going to assume he used the wrong you're.

For fucks sake it wasn't racial, you are a professional victim who pulls this bullshit in OT constantly. Here on the forum if you don't agree with us or use words how we want you to, you're a racist homophobic bigot...

That's how this is going right now

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

To be fair to Clippy, in context, I'm pretty sure he meant "your kind" as "chickenshit" or some similar sentiment (because he alleged dviss wouldn't fight him one-on-one, but would join a group pile-on) not as a racial thing. Of course, it's pretty ignorant not to see the racial overtones of a turn of phrase like that.

And to be clear, I'm not calling dviss chickenshit or anything similar. Just pointing out what I think Clippy meant.

I thought he meant SJW, but I don't take kindly to any kind round here so whatever

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Not trying to suck your dick

 

[Scalma]

That's great you think I'm that, I don't care one bit

You don't care yet you've spent half of this thread trying to convince everyone you're not that.

 

[Cippy91]

Your intentions don't matter. You're still using a term that applies to the homosexual community as an insult.

If it became widespread among young people to seriously use "white" to mean "pathetic," I have no doubt that you'd start screaming about how racist that is that, jesus, looks like white people really are the oppressed group in this country. So much for "progressives respecting other people," etc. Even if one of those people said, "Hey man, I don't mean it to be a racist."

It's easy not to give a shit when it doesn't affect you negatively.

To be honest words don't really affect me much. I can get called anything, I don't care. It's how it's used that determines the care. If I see a gay person or person of color getting slurs thrown at them, I'm standing up for them no doubt but other than that, I choose to go a different route. I'm not here to virtue signal and try to police people's words and thoughts. That's wrong and personally I think you guys kinda ganging up is wrong but it's whatever at the end of the day you have never me me or know me but if you did your perspective would change

 

[Cippy91]

You don't care yet you've spent half of this thread trying to convince everyone you're not that.

Well yeah I'm gonna stand up for myself, not just gonna be quiet like a bitch

 

[Boob-No-More]

I see how it would which is why I don't use it in front of gay people, you see.

But if you only use it around your non-gay friends and they only use it around their non-gay friends, who only use it around their non-gay friends, etc. you are all guilty of perpetuating the use of the word gay as an insult. At, some point it becomes widespread enough that it becomes common usage.

If you want to call your friends stupid, why not call them stupid, or dumb or dip shit or fuck stick, or any of the other hundreds of words or phrases that mean ignorant without being offensive and degrading to an entire segment of the population?

BNM

 

[PtldPlatypus]

To be honest words don't really affect me much. I can get called anything, I don't care. It's how it's used that determines the care. If I see a gay person or person of color getting slurs thrown at them, I'm standing up for them no doubt but other than that, I choose to go a different route. I'm not here to virtue signal and try to police people's words and thoughts. That's wrong and personally I think you guys kinda ganging up is wrong but it's whatever at the end of the day you have never me me or know me but if you did your perspective would change

Knowing you wouldn't change whether or not I think use of the word gay as a pejorative--even in close company--is kind, responsible, or mature. My own brother does the same, and I find it unacceptable from him as well.

And I'm a religious conservative, mind you, not a "progressive" or "SJW" at all.

 

[Minstrel]

I thought he meant SJW

Oh yeah, that actually sounds even more plausible.

 

[Cippy91]

But if you only use it around your non-gay friends and they only use it around their non-gay friends, who only use it around their non-gay friends, etc. you are all guilty of perpetuating the use of the word gay as an insult. At, some point it becomes widespread enough that it becomes common usage.

If you want to call your friends stupid, why not call them stupid, or dumb or dip shit or fuck stick, or any of the other hundreds of words or phrases that mean ignorant without being offensive and degrading to an entire segment of the population?

BNM

Because it's not directed at anybody gay or even used in the right form to affect a gay person. Look, I don't know what you want me to do here

 

[SlyPokerDog]

not just gonna be quiet like a bitch

Oh god, please stop. I'm begging you. Please, please stop. You just keep doubling down and losing.

 

[Scalma]

Well yeah I'm gonna stand up for myself, not just gonna be quiet like a bitch

Oh ok so you do care then. Cool.

 

[Cippy91]

I thought he meant SJW, but I don't take kindly to any kind round here so whatever

Exactly what I meant, thank god you get it

 

[Cippy91]

Oh god, please stop. I'm begging you. Please, please stop. You just keep doubling down and losing.

Sly look, I'm a bad ass. I double down. Fuck that I am ready to triple down.

 

[Minstrel]

To be honest words don't really affect me much. I can get called anything, I don't care.

You do care. You pretend you don't care, you pretend you don't get upset about things, but you've spent a lot of your time on this forum getting into long fights about what you're called, whether it was from HCP or this discussion where you think (incorrectly) that you're being called a homophobe and you think (correctly) that you're being called ignorant.

I know it's awesome to construct an image around not caring, lol, nothing gets to me, but that clearly isn't you and if things bother you, you should recognize when things bother other people and why.

 

[Cippy91]

Knowing you wouldn't change whether or not I think use of the word gay as a pejorative--even in close company--is kind, responsible, or mature. My own brother does the same, and I find it unacceptable from him as well.

And I'm a religious conservative, mind you, not a "progressive" or "SJW" at all.

Like I said not everybody is gonna agree on everything. I don't understand a lot of shit people do either such as gang up on a guy who isn't homophobic but go after him like he is one but hey that's what people do these days. I could say I totally support gay people and even have a close friend who is gay and it doesn't matter, it isn't what it is. I just don't stand down

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Sly look, I'm a bad ass. I double down. Fuck that I am ready to triple down.

So either you believe that female dogs bark less than male dogs or women don't speak their opinions.

Either opinion doesn't earn you a Bad MoFo wallet.

 

[Scalma]

Like I said not everybody is gonna agree on everything. I don't understand a lot of shit people do either such as gang up on a guy who isn't homophobic but go after him like he is one but hey that's what people do these days. I could say I totally support gay people and even have a close friend who is gay and it doesn't matter, it isn't what it is. I just don't stand down

Are you trolling? Nobody is calling you homophobic. No one.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Because it's not directed at anybody gay or even used in the right form to affect a gay person. Look, I don't know what you want me to do here

I want you to stop using the word gay in an insulting, demeaning, degrading, denigrating, negative way. How was that not obvious? I even gave you a few acceptable alternatives.

BNM

 

[Cippy91]

You do care. You pretend you don't care, you pretend you don't get upset about things, but you've spent a lot of your time on this forum getting into long fights about what you're called, whether it was from HCP or this discussion where you think (incorrectly) that you're being called a homophobe and you think (correctly) that you're being called ignorant.

I know it's awesome to construct an image around not caring, lol, nothing gets to me, but that clearly isn't you and if things bother you, you should recognize when things bother other people and why.

I care to an extent. I don't care what people think of me here but I wanna make shit clear. I care about a lot of shit other than that. I stand up for what I believe in. I mean yeah me using gay even around close friends is probably a bit immature. That's fine, I'm not perfect. However I think the important thing here is I'm not using it to try and hurt actual gay people. I go along with certain rules. If you're cool to me, I'm gonna be cool to you. Dviss has been a problem for me in the past so honestly I don't really care to sit there and be cool with him. HCP as well.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I just don't stand down

Do you think, somehow, that changing one's behavior based on outside information is a form of weakness?

 

[Cippy91]

I want you to stop using the word gay in an insulting, demeaning, degrading, denigrating, negative way. How was that not obvious? I even gave you a few acceptable alternatives.

BNM

You can't stop people from doing these things. How is it affecting you? Do I use it in the forum? You can't control people my friend, I'm sorry. "Gave me alternatives".

Lol yeaaaaahhhhhhh

 

[BBert]

Your intentions don't matter. You're still using a term that applies to the homosexual community as an insult.

If it became widespread among young people to seriously use "white" to mean "pathetic," I have no doubt that you'd start screaming about how racist that is that, jesus, looks like white people really are the oppressed group in this country. So much for "progressives respecting other people," etc. Even if one of those people said, "Hey man, I don't mean it to be a racist."

It's easy not to give a shit when it doesn't affect you negatively.

People already do. Only they use "vanilla".

 

[Boob-No-More]

Like I said not everybody is gonna agree on everything. I don't understand a lot of shit people do either such as gang up on a guy who isn't homophobic but go after him like he is one but hey that's what people do these days. I could say I totally support gay people and even have a close friend who is gay and it doesn't matter, it isn't what it is. I just don't stand down

Again, and this is at least the third time I've said this - no one here has called you homophobic. You continue to get mad and feel attacked by something that hasn't actually happened. You keep throwing that word out like it's some kind of buzzword to make everyone who disagrees with you look like they are narrow minded and make assumptions about you. We don't need to make assumptions. You make your thoughts perfectly clear.

BNM

 

[Cippy91]

Do you think, somehow, that changing one's behavior based on outside information is a form of weakness?

No, I love information. I'm open to it until you start trying to police words and act mightier than thou. I hate that shit and that's what people here are doing, they just don't see it.

 

[Cippy91]

So either you believe that female dogs bark less than male dogs or women don't speak their opinions.

Either opinion doesn't earn you a Bad MoFo wallet.

I love women. Especially my girl. She's dope. I love dogs too

 

[BBert]

I caught that to. I almost responded, but I wasn't sure if he meant, black, old or gay.

BNM

He usually means old. In this case he probably meant overly sensitive Portlandia "snowflakes".