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After watching the trial for the last couple of days i'm not shocked he got off. It pretty much came down to did he kill Martin in cold blood or not and there wasn't enough evidence to say that Zimmerman wasn't in physical danger when he shot the kid.
Zimmerman deserved to get his ass kicked for trying to be a wanna be cop in a situation that didn't call for it and Martin didn't deserve to be shot and killed but the trial wasn't about those two issues it was about if Zimmerman killed Martin in cold blood and it doesn't seem like it.
 
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Can you guys please discuss your opinions on this without insulting each other and me.
 
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Rhal said:
After watching the trial for the last couple of days i'm not shocked he got off. It pretty much came down to did he kill Martin in cold blood or not and there wasn't enough evidence to say that Zimmerman wasn't in physical danger when he shot the kid.
Zimmerman deserved to get his ass kicked for trying to be a wanna be cop in a situation that didn't call for it and Martin didn't deserve to be shot and killed but the trial wasn't about those two issues it was about if Zimmerman killed Martin in cold blood and it doesn't seem like it.
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The main parts of this aren't even about race to me (unlike pigs like PapaG) or Obama (....), etc. It's not even my main point.

It's the fact that one person was able to hide behind the law and pretend like his life was in danger and shoot another guy that was only kicking his ass.

I will never buy that his life was in danger. He was getting his ass kicked for being creepy and stalking the wrong kid and suffered maybe a broken nose and minor lacerations on the back of his head.

It's ridiculous.
 
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RoyToy said:
The main parts of this aren't even about race (unlike pigs like SlyPokerDog) or Obama (....), etc. It's not even my main point.

It's the fact that one person was able to hide behind the law and pretend like his life was in danger and shoot another guy that was only kicking his ass.

I will never buy that his life was in danger. He was getting his ass kicked for being creepy and stalking the wrong kid and suffered maybe a broken nose and minor lacerations on the back of his head.

It's ridiculous.
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You haven't had shit to say about his trial until tonight. It was a race-based trial from Day One. It's the only reason it went to trail. Thanks for calling SlyPokerDog a "pig", that's something we can both agree on.
 
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RoyToy said:
The main parts of this aren't even about race to me (unlike pigs like SlyPokerDog) or Obama (....), etc. It's not even my main point.

It's the fact that one person was able to hide behind the law and pretend like his life was in danger and shoot another guy that was only kicking his ass.

I will never buy that his life was in danger. He was getting his ass kicked for being creepy and stalking the wrong kid and suffered maybe a broken nose and minor lacerations on the back of his head.

It's ridiculous.
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The state witness medical examiner was unreliable.
 
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Jump on me and start beating me, and if I had a gun, I'd shoot you too once you grabbed for it.
 
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PapaG said:
Jump on me and start beating me, and if I had a gun, I'd shoot you too once you grabbed for it.
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I, for one, would stop when you had minor lacerations.....possibly a broken nose.
 
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The case wasn't about race. It was about the reasonableness of the stand your ground law.

I have no issue with people defending themselves. If someone breaks into your house or is robbing your place of work.

But if you go chase someone down, and end up shooting them, there is no self defense involved. It's stalking that person.
 
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It wasn't a crime. It was a tragedy. There are no winners here. Not George Zimmerman. Not the Martin family. No one.

It's just a sad situation.
 
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Denny Crane said:
The case wasn't about race. It was about the reasonableness of the stand your ground law.

I have no issue with people defending themselves. If someone breaks into your house or is robbing your place of work.

But if you go chase someone down, and end up shooting them, there is no self defense involved. It's stalking that person.
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Following someone is not a crime.
 
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Actually it is a crime. It's called assault.
 
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I'm waiting for someone to bring up how Zimmerman had Trayvon Martin pinned on the ground, with his gun out. (Zimmerman himself SAID THIS HAPPENED) before the tables turned..
 
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NY GIANTS WR SENDS THREATENING TWEET: 'ZIMMERMAN DOESN'T LAST A YEAR BEFORE THE HOOD CATCHES UP TO HIM'

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How can anyone have such strong opinions and be so assured of their side when so much is unknown?
 
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maxiep said:
Who threw the first punch? It would be tough to charge Trayvon Martin, however.
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I'd say that it would be reasonable for Trayvon to "stand" his ground if you have a guy with a gun chasing after you. Or even, without a gun. Telling you to stop, not to break into houses, etc.
 
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OregonHuskerMan said:
I'm waiting for someone to bring up how Zimmerman had Trayvon Martin pinned on the ground, with his gun out. (Zimmerman himself SAID THIS HAPPENED) before the tables turned..
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Link? You don't know what you're talking about.
 
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OregonHuskerMan said:
I'd say that it would be reasonable for Trayvon to "stand" his ground if you have a guy with a gun chasing after you. Or even, without a gun. Telling you to stop, not to break into houses, etc.
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What? Low Info Amurrrica, right in this guy.
 
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OregonHuskerMan said:
I'd say that it would be reasonable for Trayvon to "stand" his ground if you have a guy with a gun chasing after you. Or even, without a gun. Telling you to stop, not to break into houses, etc.
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Was that what the prosecution argued? Has anyone made that argument? Law isn't something you pull out of your lower intestine.
 
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PapaG said:
Link? You don't know what you're talking about.
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ZIMMERMAN: I was on top of him, straddling him, he was face down, when he kept hitting me in the face it felt like something was in his hands, so I thought he had a weapon, so I grabbed his hands and pushed them away from his body, and I said, "STOP! Don't move." He was saying something like "ahhhh ahhhhh and cursing" and I said, "STOP, don't move" and then somebody came and had a flashlight and I thought was a cop and I said - oh and I still had my gun in my hand as I was holding his hands apart and I said are you a cop he said "no" but I'll call them. I said, "I don't need you to do that I need you to help me restrain this guy."
 
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maxiep said:
Was that what the prosecution argued? Has anyone made that argument? Law isn't something you pull out of your lower intestine.
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Just stating that, if they were both still alive, I don't think "whoever" through the first punch would be acceptable in this case due to stand your ground. He could easily feel his life was in danger (BY A GUN) and punch him - in self defense - and it wouldn't be assault.

Or they could ignore stand your ground. We don't know.
 
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