|0fficial|Meyers The Terrible

[illmatic99]

It is painful to watch him. He puts so much pressure on himself that if he gets scored on or misses a shot, he gets in his head even more and implodes.

WTF happened to this guy? This was his rookie year!

 

[Blazinaway]

It is painful to watch him. He puts so much pressure on himself that if he gets scored on or misses a shot, he gets in his head even more and implodes.

WTF happened to this guy? This was his rookie year!

too many different haircuts did him in - the "Samson effect"

 

[Sarni]

It is painful to watch him. He puts so much pressure on himself that if he gets scored on or misses a shot, he gets in his head even more and implodes.

WTF happened to this guy? This was his rookie year!

Looks like a completely different player.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Looks like a completely different player.

Usually, highlight packages for a player make one hopeful, optimistic. That just makes me sad.

 

[Jade Falcon]

It is painful to watch him. He puts so much pressure on himself that if he gets scored on or misses a shot, he gets in his head even more and implodes.

WTF happened to this guy? This was his rookie year!

Wow! If he was playing like this, his salary would be more than justified.

Yeah, I agree....what the fuck happened to this guy?!

 

[Nikolokolus]

It is painful to watch him. He puts so much pressure on himself that if he gets scored on or misses a shot, he gets in his head even more and implodes.

WTF happened to this guy? This was his rookie year!

He scored a bunch of points in garbage time if I recall (look at the score). Remember Jake Layman's big explosion early in the season? Wanna bet that never happens again?

 

[illmatic99]

He scored a bunch of points in garbage time if I recall (look at the score). Remember Jake Layman's big explosion early in the season? Wanna bet that never happens again?

Who cares if it was garbage time? Look at the confidence though. When was the last time he got a pass on the block and quickly threw up a soft hook shot before the defense could get to him? (That play 7 seconds in was early in the game even).

 

[Nikolokolus]

Who cares if it was garbage time? Look at the confidence though. When was the last time he got a pass on the block and quickly threw up a soft hook shot before the defense could get to him? (That play 7 seconds in was early in the game even).

It's easy to have confidence when nobody is really trying to guard you. Once people started paying him the least bit of attention that confidence evaporated because he doesn't have the goods.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I would like to point out that the only person who has said that Meyers has two herniated discs is Meyers himself.

I wonder if Meyers knows the difference between a bulging disc and herniated disc?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Player A: 12 ppg | 7 rpg | 0.9 bpg <---PER36
8.8 PER | -0.4 VORP |

Player B: 8.6 ppg | 9.9 rpg | 1.2 bpg <---PER36
12.2 PER | 0.0 VORP

Player A is Meyers.

Player B, whose numbers are from his year in Portland, is none other than:

Vlad The Terrible

Meyers The Terrible! New official nickname.​

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Fans ought to have a chance to personally and publicly question Neil's signings - Sean Spicer style.

Making $9.2m this year - MyLo is straight up stealing money.

 

[Strenuus]

Fans ought to have a chance to personally and publicly question Neil's signings - Sean Spicer style.

Making $9.2m this year - MyLo is straight up stealing money.

The only logical reason he re-signed him is because he was his pick. Stubbornness got us 3 more years of this guy (I'm not counting this year since it's almost over) and it sucks.


Considering I highly doubt Meyers is going to change and all of a sudden become a solid rotational guy.... you have to understand that Meyers is going to be a blazer for EIGHT years unless we trade him.

 

[Mediocre Man]

A friend of mine, that works for a different NBA team, thinks Meyers should get hypnotherapy. He thinks he has some skill, but mentally it's not clicking. He believes it is anxiety based......For whatever that's worth

 

[Jade Falcon]

A friend of mine, that works for a different NBA team, thinks Meyers should get hypnotherapy. He thinks he has some skill, but mentally it's not clicking. He believes it is anxiety based......For whatever that's worth

Sure. I mean, hell....we should all try anything at this point. I know a Wiccan couple; family friends of ours. Surely they know some song and dance to rid Meyers of impurities.

Hell, summon me a young priest and an old priest, and I'll perform an exorcism.

"Be gone, shitty skills! I cast you out in the name of Lillard! THE POWER OF NURK COMPELS YOU!"

 

[illmatic99]

A friend of mine, that works for a different NBA team, thinks Meyers should get hypnotherapy. He thinks he has some skill, but mentally it's not clicking. He believes it is anxiety based......For whatever that's worth

Reminds me of Marty.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[blue9]

WTF happened to this guy?

Stotts happened to him. There's still an echo of the old Meyers bouncing around in that walking shell of his. Saw a glimpse of it last night when he posted and hooked in a nice little shot in the paint. But Stotts did what he does with every big guy - he pushed him out to the 3-point line, and so we only see Meyers The Center for one or two plays every 10ish games.

If we had a big man coach Meyers would at least be a rotation player. But because we don't, he is what we see. We've horribly mismanaged his career, and we don't seem to be doing much better with Vonleh. It's a damn good thing we got Nurk after he developed the skill set he currently has.

 

[HailBlazers]

It is painful to watch him. He puts so much pressure on himself that if he gets scored on or misses a shot, he gets in his head even more and implodes.

WTF happened to this guy? This was his rookie year!

ARRRRGGGG so frustrating. Agree @blue9. If he would have focused on mid range game, dunks, and post play he could be a completely different player right now. IE, an actual asset.

 

[Scalma]

ARRRRGGGG so frustrating. Agree @blue9. If he would have focused on mid range game, dunks, and post play he could be a completely different player right now. IE, an actual asset.

No he wouldn't. It's mainly mental with Leonard, and that's not coachable. That's on Leonard. As a younger player he didn't know any better. He had success in college. He was feeling good. As soon as adversity hit in the NBA he crumbled.

 

[rotary111]

Maybe Papa Nurkic should spend some "quality time" with Biebs.

 

[illmatic99]

I think blaming Terry might be unfounded. Every player has said he is easy to play for and instills confidence and enables them to grow into their roles. We've all been clamoring for Terry to actually rein back the freedom he gives some of his players.

 

[Jade Falcon]

No he wouldn't. It's mainly mental with Leonard, and that's not coachable. That's on Leonard. As a younger player he didn't know any better. He had success in college. He was feeling good. As soon as adversity hit in the NBA he crumbled.

If I understand it correctly, he only played one year of college; his Freshman year, before announcing for the Draft. I could be wrong though...

But if I'm right, it makes it even more astonishing that he was drafted at all.

 

[oldfisherman]

No he wouldn't. It's mainly mental with Leonard, and that's not coachable. That's on Leonard. As a younger player he didn't know any better. He had success in college. He was feeling good. As soon as adversity hit in the NBA he crumbled.

This.
In college, Meyers was the big fish in a little pond. It was easy for him to have his way.
Meyers entered the NBA very cocky. Not sure when and how, but somewhere it was knocked out of him, and his confidence never returned. He is now a slowly sinking ship lost in the fog.

Which reminds me of the "success" in college for many of the kids in this draft class. And how well they might do in the NBA.

 

[trailblazer18]

If I understand it correctly, he only played one year of college; his Freshman year, before announcing for the Draft. I could be wrong though...

But if I'm right, it makes it even more astonishing that he was drafted at all.

Season School Conf G MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2010-11 Illinois Big Ten 33 8.2 0.8 1.8 .483 0.8 1.7 .491 0.0 0.0 .000 0.4 0.5 .706 1.2 0.2 0.2 0.4 0.8 1.5 2.1
2011-12 Illinois Big Ten 32 31.8 5.3 9.1 .584 5.3 8.8 .604 0.0 0.3 .091 2.9 4.0 .732 8.2 1.3 0.5 1.9 2.1 2.9 13.6
Career Illinois 65 19.8 3.0 5.4 .567 3.0 5.2 .585 0.0 0.2 .083 1.6 2.2 .729 4.7 0.7 0.3 1.1 1.4 2.2 7.7

Terrible formatting, sorry. But appears Meyers played for 2 years at Illinois. Decent numbers his Sophomore year, 13pts & 8 rebs.

 

[Nikolokolus]

From draftexpress.com in the lead up to the 2012 draft:

Once he catches the ball on the block, Leonard can be a bit mechanical with his moves, and he lacks great footwork, but his size and length enable him to just go over the top of most defenders at the college level. His go-to move at this stage is a jump hook turning to his left shoulder, which he executes well, but he'll need to continue adding polish to his post game to establish himself as more of a scoring threat, specifically developing more comfort with weak hand and adding counter moves. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Meyers-Leonard-5756/ ©DraftExpress

Where Leonard may need to improve the most, as he's admitted himself, is on the mental part of the game. He seemed to lose his confidence quickly last season, looking tentative, getting easily frustrated and not showing the type of toughness you hope to see from a top-shelf prospect. For him to take the next step in his career, he's going to have overcome that. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Meyers-Leonard-5756/ ©DraftExpress

It's like he got stuck and never moved past his stumbling blocks.

 

[Jade Falcon]

From draftexpress.com in the lead up to the 2012 draft:



It's like he got stuck and never moved past his stumbling blocks.

That is astonishing to me just how accurate and spot on that assessment is. Even more astonishing to me that our GM failed to recognize just how much work he needed, and valued him an 11th pick in the draft.

I want to see what other prospects we passed up in that draft who made it.

 

[Nikolokolus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NBA_draft

Not a lot (besides Draymond who everybody missed on).

 

[Scalma]

That is astonishing to me just how accurate and spot on that assessment is. Even more astonishing to me that our GM failed to recognize just how much work he needed, and valued him an 11th pick in the draft.

I want to see what other prospects we passed up in that draft who made it.

Why? Is it really crazy to expect a 20 year old (or however old Meyers was) to eventually mature mentally? He was a kid. The talent wasn't hard to spot, and it was definitely lottery worthy. It's easy to say it wasn't in hindsight.

 

[Blazers Roy]

I think the most important thing to remember about Meyers is that it's not his fault.
It's not his fault that Neil over-payed for what he brings to the table and it's not his fault that Stotts gets wet from big guys shooting threes.

Leonard showcased his abilities and inconsistencies for a few years and Neil decided he wants more of it.
What was Meyers suppose to do? not take the money? become a different player?

 

[jlprk]

I don't blame Oshey for drafting Leonard. I blame Olshey for not recognizing by the middle of his second year that he would wind up like he did, and not trading him when he could still get a 1st-round pick for him.

By the middle of his second year, I was posting that we should trade him before his value diminished further. There were already posters here arguing with me that we could no longer get a 1st for him. (Of course, there were the usual sleepy homers like eBlazer and Shilly who always oppose change and said, give him another 8 years.)

That's how far ahead of Olshey this board is. Like Pritchard, Olshey moves as fast as molasses. This is why I liked Trader Bob. He was always ahead of the curve, not behind it.