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Scalma said:
Why? Is it really crazy to expect a 20 year old (or however old Meyers was) to eventually mature mentally? He was a kid. The talent wasn't hard to spot, and it was definitely lottery worthy. It's easy to say it wasn't in hindsight.
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His pre-draft tapes showed obvious flaws that needed LOTS of work; even on the most basic level. Just like DraftExpress noted, very accurately I might add.

I mean fuck: he can't even set a goddamn screen properly, and gets confused when he sees the painted area on the court. I still maintain that he was drafted WAY too high. Low first to high 2nd round is where he belongs.

But okay....fair enough: all things being in hindsight. In hindsight, he should have stayed in college for 2 more years and worked on his game. I think that would have benefitted him greatly.

trailblazer18 said:
Henson is about the only other big worth anything (again besides Draymond) that was picked behind him. A few other guards/forwards that still play in the league and are decent, but not bigs. So the pick was probably right, just hasn't worked out.
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In hindsight, what about Miles Plumlee? I haven't followed his career at all, so I have no idea how he turned out.
 
jlprk said:
I don't blame Oshey for drafting Leonard. I blame Olshey for not recognizing by the middle of his second year that he would wind up like he did, and not trading him when he could still get a 1st-round pick for him.

By the middle of his second year, I was posting that we should trade him before his value diminished further. There were already posters here arguing with me that we could no longer get a 1st for him. (Of course, there were the usual sleepy homers like eBlazer and Shilly who always oppose change and said, give him another 8 years.)

That's how far ahead of Olshey this board is. Like Pritchard, Olshey moves as fast as molasses. This is why I liked Trader Bob. He was always ahead of the curve, not behind it.
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You like Whitsitt? We hadn't noticed.
 
It seemed like he was getting a little bit better working with Kim Hughes a few years ago, but since he got fired Myers has gotten progressively worse. It's probably too late for Meyers but they really need to bring in a dedicated big man coach, especially if they draft a couple.
 
santeesioux said:
It seemed like he was getting a little bit better working with Kim Hughes a few years ago, but since he got fired Myers has gotten progressively worse. It's probably too late for Meyers but they really need to bring in a dedicated big man coach, especially if they draft a couple.
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I wonder if Walton would be up for the job?
 
Blazers Roy said:
I think the most important thing to remember about Meyers is that it's not his fault.
It's not his fault that Neil over-payed for what he brings to the table and it's not his fault that Stotts gets wet from big guys shooting threes.

Leonard showcased his abilities and inconsistencies for a few years and Neil decided he wants more of it.
What was Meyers suppose to do? not take the money? become a different player?
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Great. Now I got the scene from Good Will Hunting in my head.
 
Sinobas, I did listen to the entire New Contract video and there are notable points. Meyers impresses me as a sincere team player who is humble, not overconfident, and quick to praise other team members. He is grateful to be a Blazer and eager to contribute. Meyers' highly positive comments about Dame, CJ, and Allen show great respect and camaraderie that would be welcome on any team.

Listening carefully, you can hear that negative thoughts about the Blazers do in fact bother Meyers. The unfortunate confounding of his potential as a big Center assigned to primarily forward duties has been a factor. With the obvious success of Nurkic in running the paint after screens as the model, Meyers has the opportunity to further develop the high percentage close shot talents--dunk, layup, hook, and rebound--that are nascent from his college days and first year as a Blazer. This is where Meyers can contribute as I visualize these last 4 regular season games.

Remembering Meyers at his best in defending against Cousins, Adams, and other bigs, and giving him the assignment to shoot at least 8 shots per game, I think that Meyers can contribute to the Blazers making the playoffs.

If we choose to emphasize what is possible, and to optimize the probability for success for the Blazers, let's try being positive!
 
Mediocre Man said:
A friend of mine, that works for a different NBA team, thinks Meyers should get hypnotherapy. He thinks he has some skill, but mentally it's not clicking. He believes it is anxiety based......For whatever that's worth
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I think that he hears all the negativity from the fan-base. This dude would struggle mentally without any negativity, which he even recognizes and openly talks about.

But with negativity, I think he's just mentally wasted. You can see how much anger is within him when he argues calls. He looks pissed off out of his mind.

I think that a byproduct of this anger is him getting himself hyped up whenever he does something good. It's almost like a good play is a relief to him because he's so stressed out. For guys like Dame, good plays are normal. But for Meyers, his mind is in such bad shape and without confidence, that one good play is a big deal for him. It's also likely that Meyers is compensating for his cratering self-confidence with cockiness. That cockiness, combined with the fact that he knows the fanbase hates on him constantly, would lead me to believe the story @TBpup relayed to the forum the other day. If it's true, I don't blame him, and I don't think it's because he's an asshole, I just think the situation has made him mentally fucked.

I think he wants to be well for the fanbase, but knows the fanbase can't stand him, which sucks to want to please people who hate on you. Hell, I can't stand some of the mistakes he makes, but the way some people react about those mistakes lead him to make even more, because some of the shit people post is too much. We've nicknamed him "butters" and make fun of his facial expressions and looks all the time.

I feel bad for the dude. His mentality is probably permanently fucked. It's his own problems combined with being the fanbases whipping boy.

He needs to get traded. Maybe go home to Chicago (close enough) and play 25 minutes a game for the rebuilding Bulls after they trade Jimmy Butler.
 
Mediocre Man said:
A friend of mine, that works for a different NBA team, thinks Meyers should get hypnotherapy. He thinks he has some skill, but mentally it's not clicking. He believes it is anxiety based......For whatever that's worth
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Oh, I totally believe that. You can tell he so very badly wants to do the right thing so people won't hate him. And it's that very desire that's fucking up his ability to play. For whatever reason, he's always drawn more criticism than other players in his position, and he knows it and can hear it in the crowd's disappointment every time he misses a shot or defensive assignment. There's an audible groan whenever he does something that doesn't turn out positive. And yet he watches Aminu consistently turn the ball over in crunch time, but the crowd still loves the guy. That'd be pretty demoralizing for a guy like Meyers.
 
blue9 said:
Oh, I totally believe that. You can tell he so very badly wants to do the right thing so people won't hate him. And it's that very desire that's fucking up his ability to play. For whatever reason, he's always drawn more criticism than other players in his position, and he knows it and can hear it in the crowd's disappointment every time he misses a shot or defensive assignment. There's an audible groan whenever he does something that doesn't turn out positive. And yet he watches Aminu consistently turn the ball over in crunch time, but the crowd still loves the guy. That'd be pretty demoralizing for a guy like Meyers.
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If he is indeed reading these forums - he realizes we do laugh at Aminu consistently. lol.
 
BonesJones said:
I think that he hears all the negativity from the fan-base. This dude would struggle mentally without any negativity, which he even recognizes and openly talks about.

But with negativity, I think he's just mentally wasted. You can see how much anger is within him when he argues calls. He looks pissed off out of his mind.

I think that a byproduct of this anger is him getting himself hyped up whenever he does something good. It's almost like a good play is a relief to him because he's so stressed out. For guys like Dame, good plays are normal. But for Meyers, his mind is in such bad shape and without confidence, that one good play is a big deal for him. It's also likely that Meyers is compensating for his cratering self-confidence with cockiness. That cockiness, combined with the fact that he knows the fanbase hates on him constantly, would lead me to believe the story @TBpup relayed to the forum the other day. If it's true, I don't blame him, and I don't think it's because he's an asshole, I just think the situation has made him mentally fucked.

I think he wants to be well for the fanbase, but knows the fanbase can't stand him, which sucks to want to please people who hate on you. Hell, I can't stand some of the mistakes he makes, but the way some people react about those mistakes lead him to make even more, because some of the shit people post is too much. We've nicknamed him "butters" and make fun of his facial expressions and looks all the time.

I feel bad for the dude. His mentality is probably permanently fucked. It's his own problems combined with being the fanbases whipping boy.

He needs to get traded. Maybe go home to Chicago (close enough) and play 25 minutes a game for the rebuilding Bulls after they trade Jimmy Butler.
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I'm communicating from the other side of the world, but it seems to me that the crowd at the Rose Garden is very nice to Meyers, a far cry from the toxic pool this forum (like any sports forum) can become sometimes.

Honestly, the crowd is asking him to shoot it when he's wide open, they cheer for him when he makes 1 of 3 shots. They even cheered for Lamarcus when he came back for the 1st time lol. Compare that with crowd at MSG:

 
Strenuus said:
If he is indeed reading these forums - he realizes we do laugh at Aminu consistently. lol.
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And yet, so many people still really like him. (Also, I doubt Meyers - or any Blazer - reads the forum.)
 
Blazers Roy said:
I'm communicating from the other side of the world, but it seems to me that the crowd at the Rose Garden is very nice to Meyers, a far cry from the toxic pool this forum (like any sports forum) can become sometimes.

Honestly, the crowd is asking him to shoot it when he's wide open, they cheer for him when he makes 1 of 3 shots. They even cheered for Lamarcus when he came back for the 1st time lol. Compare that with crowd at MSG:

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I've been at a game were there was a large amount of people groaning at him. Those who weren't were booing.

He'd get killed at MSG.
 
blue9 said:
Stotts happened to him. There's still an echo of the old Meyers bouncing around in that walking shell of his. Saw a glimpse of it last night when he posted and hooked in a nice little shot in the paint. But Stotts did what he does with every big guy - he pushed him out to the 3-point line, and so we only see Meyers The Center for one or two plays every 10ish games.

If we had a big man coach Meyers would at least be a rotation player. But because we don't, he is what we see. We've horribly mismanaged his career, and we don't seem to be doing much better with Vonleh. It's a damn good thing we got Nurk after he developed the skill set he currently has.
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Stotts wants him to be Nowitzki. He's really not..........

NotDirk? Noshitski.
 
Meyers The Terrible lived up to his nickname.

I haven't cringed like this whenever a Blazer checked in since ....Nolan Smith.
 
Fez Von Savage said:
Meyers The Terrible lived up to his nickname.

I haven't cringed like this whenever a Blazer checked in since ....Nolan Smith.
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He might not have been an NBA caliber player but N.Smitty seemed like a really good dude and I feel for his life struggles.
 
So, I was just meandering around the salary cap thread, and I saw a number that almost made me puke. It happens every time. 9,904,494.00....

How's that vurp taste???
 
Fez Von Savage said:
Meyers The Terrible lived up to his nickname.

I haven't cringed like this whenever a Blazer checked in since ....Nolan Smith.
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Nolan Smith, Jamal Maglore...who else have I tried to erase from my Blazer memory?
 
"Jamal Maglore"

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Mediocre Man said:
A friend of mine, that works for a different NBA team, thinks Meyers should get hypnotherapy. He thinks he has some skill, but mentally it's not clicking. He believes it is anxiety based......For whatever that's worth
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I have thought the same thing
 
Blazers Roy said:
I'm communicating from the other side of the world, but it seems to me that the crowd at the Rose Garden is very nice to Meyers, a far cry from the toxic pool this forum (like any sports forum) can become sometimes.

Honestly, the crowd is asking him to shoot it when he's wide open, they cheer for him when he makes 1 of 3 shots. They even cheered for Lamarcus when he came back for the 1st time lol. Compare that with crowd at MSG:

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The MODA crowd last night booed Meyers when he missed a shot. Dame missed like 6-8 shots in a row, but the crowd actually booed Meyers for missing a shot he took within the offense, that he would usually make. Yeah, that's gonna help.
 
BBert said:
The MODA crowd last night booed Meyers when he missed a shot. Dame missed like 6-8 shots in a row, but the crowd actually booed Meyers for missing a shot he took within the offense, that he would usually make. Yeah, that's gonna help.
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they didnt boo him for missing a shot. they boo'ed him for missing 3 3's in a row and playing with cinder blocks on his feet on the defense side. he deserves to get boo'ed. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
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