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HCP said:
Is it me or has all the talk of Jeremy Lamb completely stopped since the interviews he gave at the combine in Chicago? Even slipped to 13 in the latest Mock by Ford.
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After hearing him talk and come off so poorly and disengaged I think even his most ardent supporters are having second thoughts. As for where he'll actually end up and how he'll do in the pros is anybody's guess, but he kind of failed the "how to win friends and influence people" test.
 
Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
The 46 video interviews we conducted at the NBA Combine are all organized neatly right here for your viewing pleasure:
 
HCP said:
I wouldn't mind taking him at 11. I would be very content with a starting backcourt of Lillard/Lamb on opening night.
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To me it's a bit strange to be talking about drafting a PG and SG and having them BOTH start. Lillard I can see starting asuming we don't bring back any of last years PG's except Nolan, but Lamb would have to beat out Wes AND Ewill which IMO he is not good enough to do, "at least" his first year and maybe longer than that.
 
I haven't been following this much but do I have this right:

If the philosophy is BPA, Blazers do not pick Lillard with the 6th pick. If they do draft Lillard at #6, then they are really drafting based on position need?
 
Blazinaway said:
To me it's a bit strange to be talking about drafting a PG and SG and having them BOTH start. Lillard I can see starting asuming we don't bring back any of last years PG's except Nolan, but Lamb would have to beat out Wes AND Ewill which IMO he is not good enough to do, "at least" his first year and maybe longer than that.
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I agree. I don't think there is one rookie out there other than Davis and as you say a PG that would start next year at least at the beginning of the season. But that is OK as long as they get adequate minutes. But guys like MKG, Beal, Drummond, Barnes , Lillard, Marshall, could all contribute early on.
 
Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
For those wanting to take a deeper look at Evan Fournier, here is 47 minutes of game action from this past season:
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
I haven't been following this much but do I have this right:

If the philosophy is BPA, Blazers do not pick Lillard with the 6th pick. If they do draft Lillard at #6, then they are really drafting based on position need?
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Depending on the model used to predict the actual best players available, Lillard is as high as #6 on the list anyway... so one could say that Lillard at #6 isn't a reach for a position, but BPA.

That said, there's plenty of people who disagree with that assessment, and will grumble about Lillard at 6. I've swung around to kind of being on the fence; I bet he'll be a good player, and a starter in the league, but he'd have to overachieve a bit to be the PGOTF that we always need.
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
I haven't been following this much but do I have this right:

If the philosophy is BPA, Blazers do not pick Lillard with the 6th pick. If they do draft Lillard at #6, then they are really drafting based on position need?
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Unless you are all-knowing, this is not necessarily true. If Davis, Robinson, Beal, Barnes and MKG are gone by 6, and Drummond shows not motor or desire in workouts, then I think you could easily make the case that Lillard would be BPA. Who would you put clearly above him?
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
I haven't been following this much but do I have this right:

If the philosophy is BPA, Blazers do not pick Lillard with the 6th pick. If they do draft Lillard at #6, then they are really drafting based on position need?
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Lillard has been flying up the draft boards, so if Olshey and company like him, the 6th pick isn't really a reach for him. Olshey said they have it down to maybe 3-4 guys at each draft slot, so if, for example, Lillard, Barnes, PJ 3 are all in the same tier, and best available according to the Blazers, then Lillard would be the right pick because he trumps the other two because he plays a position of need
 
Is a guy being compared to George Hill really the 6th best player in this draft though?
 
Blaze01 said:
40% from the field 25% from 3pt range is not going to get it done...


Yeah, small little details....
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There are some guys who make careers off numbers slightly better than that.
If that's an off-night, that's not a terrible off-night (the 25% from 3 is).
 
Thanks for the responses. That helps clear it up for me. I haven't been following all this and the little I have I didn't see Lillard in a top 6 list (I have seen him picked in a mock draft at 6 but haven't seen him in a top 6 list which led to my confusion)

But what I read is there is an argument he is the BPA at #6 or that there is little separation between the BPA at that pick. Makes sense.
 
Sam Amick ‏@sam_amick
Draft notes: Is UNC's John Henson Anthony Davis Lite or just too light? Big week for Wizards & the Miles Plumlee rise -http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/06/14/henson.nba.draft.notes/index.html


Plumlee will be better that Leonard. You heard it here first
 
Hollinger's chat going on right now: http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/44214

Some draft related bits (and more).

Greg (Switzerland)

You are the Portland's GM. What is your plan for this offseason (Trade, Draft, Free Agency)?
John Hollinger (12:09 PM)

I don't think it's a rebuild, but I do think they'll go younger -- use the draft picks, bring in Claver and Freeland from Europe to shore up the bench and go after a young free-agent point guard. Dragic is obviously a key name, but they also could try to trade for Kyle Lowry if Houston keeps Dragic. I'd expect Jamal Crawford and Raymond Felton are long gone, I think they'll keep Batum, I think they'll explore Wes Matthews' trade value but not necessarily do anything. Most interesting variable is the coach.
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Joe (FL)

Re: Portland's point guard search. Is Lillard a possibility at 6? Cheaper than Lowry or Dragic...
John Hollinger (12:14 PM)

A lot of Lillard talk for Portland at both 6 and 11. Personally I'm pretty lukewarm on the guy, and historically rookie point guards take a beating.
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Paul (Portland, OR)

John, you say Portland's most interesting variable is the coach. Who would YOU want to see as Portland's coach?
John Hollinger (12:17 PM)

Stan Van Gundy, but unfortunately his irreverence will not sit well with the Vulcans. They prefer a guy who won't make waves in the Nate McMillan mold.
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Most interesting variable is the coach.
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Not according to the front office. I mean it's not like any of the free agents are going to care about who their coach is, and what system they run......Right?
 
Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
Big workouts today: Beal w/ Wizards. Drummond w/ Kings. Barnes, Rivers & Lamb w/ Raptors. Sullinger, Henson & Teague w/ Warriors.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Not according to the front office. I mean it's not like any of the free agents are going to care about who their coach is, and what system they run......Right?
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I counter your sarcasm with bitterness: sure it matters, but only in teams they'd seriously consider. We will be unaffected either way.

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Mediocre Man said:
Sam Amick ‏@sam_amick
Draft notes: Is UNC's John Henson Anthony Davis Lite or just too light? Big week for Wizards & the Miles Plumlee rise -http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/06/14/henson.nba.draft.notes/index.html


Plumlee will be better that Leonard. You heard it here first
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Can you throw up a bio on him in that thread?
 
Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider
Here's some video from what I'm told was a stellar workout for @Dame_Lillard in Sacramento on Wed.
 
Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
Thomas Robinson: "I don't feel that I'm wrong for saying that I also could be the #1 pick."
 
That's crazy. The parallels of the rise of Westbrook! Deja vu.

Maybe we can re-draft Bayless as a consolation prize again.
 
It sucks that we won't be able to get him at 6. :sigh:

Man, today's just been a shitshow of bad news for me.
 
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