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Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
Green Room Invites: Davis, Robinson, Beal, Kidd Gilchrist, Barnes, Lillard, Waiters, Lamb, Drummond, Rivers, Henson, Zeller, Leonard
 
Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
Still waiting on Green Room Invites/Not Invited: Marshall, Sullinger, Ross, Harkless, Moultrie, Perry Jones, Terrence Jones, everyone else.
 
More and more I'm thinking Lillard is the guy (all things considered).

You're going to need scorers to beat OKC, and I'm not convinced Lillard can't be a playmakers for others as well.
 
At 11, he might be worth the risk. Is he really any worse a gamble than Drummond?

Well, taking Drummond @ 6 is a higher risk (mainly because of opportunity cost) than taking PJ III @ 11. Besides, Drummond at least has a defined position and isn't deluded into thinking he's a wing. Unlike PJ III.
 
Can we please buy a late first and take wroten

I don't know if Wroten is the guy I would target, but I am all in favor of buying another pick. This is the kind of draft where the guy available at 20 could be just as good as the guy at 11. There are so many guys like Terrence and Terrence who could slip, yet turn out to be decent NBA players.
 
I'd look at MN's pick (Crawford S&T? they have interest) and target Moe Harkless.
 
More and more I'm thinking Lillard is the guy (all things considered).

You're going to need scorers to beat OKC, and I'm not convinced Lillard can't be a playmakers for others as well.

The internal struggle I have with taking Lillard at No. 6 is that he could potentially be there at No. 11. I'm not against Lillard at No. 6, but if you're split on picking him or someone else, you have to consider taking the other person, and see if Lillard slides to No. 11. This is why I'm glad I'm not the person making the selections - of course, those guys are more comfortable because they have the book on every potential selection.

But I am certainly interested in Lillard as a Blazer, and would not be disappointed with the pick.
 
The internal struggle I have with taking Lillard at No. 6 is that he could potentially be there at No. 11. I'm not against Lillard at No. 6, but if you're split on picking him or someone else, you have to consider taking the other person, and see if Lillard slides to No. 11. This is why I'm glad I'm not the person making the selections - of course, those guys are more comfortable because they have the book on every potential selection.

But I am certainly interested in Lillard as a Blazer, and would not be disappointed with the pick.
Team needs as of right now show Toronto, Detroit maybe and NO as all needing a PG. I'm not sure he would make it to #11, and I'm not sure who is better at #6?
 
Team needs as of right now show Toronto, Detroit maybe and NO as all needing a PG. I'm not sure he would make it to #11, and I'm not sure who is better at #6?

That's why I say it's a struggle. If T-Rob, MKG, or Beal are at #6 (all unlikely), I'd take one of those over Lillard. Barnes, maybe. Drummond, I'm more leaning towards Lillard.
 
A couple things:

Leonard > Zeller...Easily.

I'd rather pick up a later pick and take Plumlee over Zeller.
 
The internal struggle I have with taking Lillard at No. 6 is that he could potentially be there at No. 11. I'm not against Lillard at No. 6, but if you're split on picking him or someone else, you have to consider taking the other person, and see if Lillard slides to No. 11. This is why I'm glad I'm not the person making the selections - of course, those guys are more comfortable because they have the book on every potential selection.

But I am certainly interested in Lillard as a Blazer, and would not be disappointed with the pick.

The thing that doesn't make me worry so much about Lillard is he seems to get "it". Seems like a good dude that could be very coachable, and not just a guy that will pout if he's asked to do more than just score (cough Jamal Crawford cough).

I can see your point on trying to get him at 11, but if you like him enough, it's a little risky to take that chance.

The Blazers should take who they have on the top of their board of who's available at #6.

Could be Lillard

Could be Drummond
 
A couple things:

Leonard > Zeller...Easily.

Ha! We actually agree on something. His upside alone is why you take him over Zeller. Though, he looks like he's going to be a very good weakside shotblocker his post defense is a long way away.
 
The thing that doesn't make me worry so much about Lillard is he seems to get "it". Seems like a good dude that could be very coachable, and not just a guy that will pout if he's asked to do more than just score (cough Jamal Crawford cough).

I can see your point on trying to get him at 11, but if you like him enough, it's a little risky to take that chance.

The Blazers should take who they have on the top of their board of who's available at #6.

Could be Lillard

Could be Drummond

Agreed. And it's pretty clear that Lillard WANTS to be in Portland. There's something to be said for that. His work ethic and drive will keep him becoming a bust. Can't say whether or not he'll be an all-star, but he has enough in him to avoid the bust label.
 
Team needs as of right now show Toronto, Detroit maybe and NO as all needing a PG. I'm not sure he would make it to #11, and I'm not sure who is better at #6?

I agree. I highly doubt Lillard will still be available at #11.

I like Lillards chances at being a big impact player over MKG, Beal, Barnes, or Drummond.
 
Harkless is looking like he is going to go in the lottery,an outside chance he may even go top 10....

Depending on what SAC or HOU? does at #5...there is a chance one of Robinson, MKG or Barnes is there at #6...

If they were not, I would rather see POR take Rivers or Waiters at #6.....
 
I agree. I highly doubt Lillard will still be available at #11.

I like Lillards chances at being a big impact player over MKG, Beal, Barnes, or Drummond.

It's hard not to like Lillard's confidence and drive. And the thing is.... these guards who have his type of marketability and personality.... I hate to say that it contributes to their on-court performance, but it takes a certain type of player to be so well-rounded and have that personality and off-court persona, which he seems to have. I'm really not trying to talk him up, but some of the videos I've seen (LicensetoLillard, various interviews, etc).... There's something to be said for that.
 
A reason to stay away from Lamb?

There had been some whispers over the weekend that Lamb, who hadn't worked out for teams since suffering an ankle sprain in Toronto earlier this month had a shoulder issue; his right shoulder had popped out once in high school. But a thorough vetting by the league's doctors, according to a source close to Lamb, gave Lamb the thumbs -- or shoulders -- up. He will have to strengthen the shoulder and keep working at it throughout his career, but he will not require surgery

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The injury that doctors have flagged is to his right shooting shoulder and there is concern that it could recur during his career. One team we spoke with said they felt he could slide right out of the lottery and into the teens. We consider Lamb to be the SG prospect with the most long term potential. But this shoulder injury combined with his ankle injury and inability to work out for teams before today (Portland) could cost him on draft night.
 
Portland could go in any direction. League sources maintain the Blazers are shopping the second of their two first-rounders, the 11th pick overall, in search of young assets in return. But at six, the Blazers have needs across the board. Lillard would make an awful lot of sense here if he's not taken by Sacramento, but the Blazers, who still need to replace the retired Brandon Roy, might not be able to pass on Waiters.
-D.Aldridge
 
The more I watch Lillard, the more I think of a prime Gilbert Arenas with more size and less of a bonehead.

Yes, please.

I will be really disappointed if he's available and we take Waiters or Rivers over him.
 
If we leave Lillard on the board to take Waiters, I will genuinely be pissed. I know we don't have the full books on all these guys, but this is about as obvious as it gets.
 
The more I watch Lillard, the more I think of a prime Gilbert Arenas with more size and less of a bonehead.

Yes, please.

I will be really disappointed if he's available and we take Waiters or Rivers over him.

I don't get why we'd take Rivers over Lillard. Of Lillard, Waiters, and Rivers, Rivers is the one I most expect to be available at #11.
 
On what Lillard wants to improve on..."My defense, I'm from Oakland, in Oakland we lock people up, thats what we do".
 
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