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Fez Hammersticks said:
Chad Ford is already calling Poeltl the biggest sleeper in this draft:

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Ceiling: Pre-injury Bogut.
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I've watched him a few times this year. He seemed a bit raw when I saw him play.
 
Just watched okafor on youtube. Never seen him play at all, from the one video against Boston College he reminded me of Tim Duncan with good free throw shooting.
 
The guy we traded for T-Rob, who only had a few years of organized basketball under his belt at the time, has developed into th best center in the ACB:

From playing sparingly for four years to being arguably the best big man in the ACB 2014-15 so far. Marko Todorovic’s breakout season proves the only thing he needed to blossom into a star was just more playing time.
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Todorovic is a fundamentally sound big man with excellent footwork, a wide array of offensive moves in the post and a soft touch around the basket. A native of Podgorica, his summer workouts with countryman and friend Nikola Mirotic are paying off.

“I guess I’ve improved in many areas (this season) but I’m not very sure in which ones because I didn’t know what my weak points were. In past seasons I used to do things well in practice but then I didn’t play in games, so… This season I’m playing, and that’s the most important thing”, he said in a near-perfect Spanish.
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He was a few years away but he showed an actual skillset - not an athlete that you have to teach to be an actual basketball player (T-Rob).

This is a good example of why I rate Hernangomez highly, he's essentially a more athletic Todorovic.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
So some kid by the name of Xavier Rathan-Mayes scored 30 points in the last 4 mins and 38 seconds of the game but his team (Florida State) still lost!
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Scoring guard from Toronto, best friends with Andrew Wiggins. Stuck between the 1&2 right now but is a magnificent shooter. Wonderful form.
 
He's raw but there are already rumblings that Kennedy Meeks is going to declare this summer.

At 6'9" 270 lbs. he's going to have to become a PF on the next level. A widebody with a soft touch - Randolph-esque post-game. Should be there around our pick. Impressive advanced numbers (34 PER | PER36: 21 PPG | 15 RPG | 2 BPG):

 
I like him, very good hands, good intelligence but he lacks height and athleticism. Probably a Cal Landry type of a decent but undersized big. Should find a place in the NBA.
 
Blazer4ever said:
I like him, very good hands, good intelligence but he lacks height and athleticism. Probably a Cal Landry type of a decent but undersized big. Should find a place in the NBA.
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The skillset is there but he's going to struggle in the NBA.

The player you look at is Z-Bo who was way overweight (270+) and very productive in limited minutes at MSU but was sneaky quick and has a wingspan in the 7'4" range.

Meeks has neither of those attributes. He is a hardworker though - down to 270 from 320. With his ability to score in the post I think he could be a riser on draft day though - mid-20's?
 
Speaking of risers, Robert Upshaw will be the biggest riser on draft day IMO.

Top-10 in PER for centers

Legit C size: 7'0" | 7'4" wingspan

Rim protector: 4.4 BPG in 25 min/per

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Givony and Ford both agree that the 2016 draft is going to be the weakest in "at least a decade".

2015 high school senior class (the backbone of the 2016 lottery) is considered to be one of the weakest in years. 1996 int'l class also poor.
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Malik Pope now rated as a top-5 prospect in next years draft - would've gone late first this year.
 
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Fez Hammersticks said:
Speaking of risers, Robert Upshaw will be the biggest riser on draft day IMO.

Top-10 in PER for centers

Legit C size: 7'0" | 7'4" wingspan

Rim protector: 4.4 BPG in 25 min/per

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Very impressive. Would like to see him against bigger competition to make real judgement but he looks very good in this video. He looks like he has real potential at least. Would like this player for the Blazers.
 
Blazer4ever said:
Very impressive. Would like to see him against bigger competition to make real judgement but he looks very good in this video. He looks like he has real potential at least. Would like this player for the Blazers.
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I probably should've added this little tidbit...

He was dismissed from Fresno for weed.

He was dismissed from UW in January for weed.

Lotto talent, huge risk. Hassan Whiteside meets Larry Sanders.

:smiley-ugh:

I'd still take Hernangomez over him but if he's gone by our pick I'd at least take a look.
 
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I've been watching some Chris Obekpa videos, the dude is a block party... Undersized but the dude is solid, has a Ben Wallace type game.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Speaking of risers, Robert Upshaw will be the biggest riser on draft day IMO.

Top-10 in PER for centers

Legit C size: 7'0" | 7'4" wingspan

Rim protector: 4.4 BPG in 25 min/per

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check out the Poeltl vs. Upshaw video:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jakob-Poeltl-63039/
Basically, Upshaw is really athletic, but is more lackadaisical. Poeltl plays harder and smarter, but not as athletic.

Interesting thing about Poeltl: draftexpress has him going just outside the lottery, nbadraft.net doesn't have him being drafted! There is not a lot of consensus on some players right now. I think a lot will hinge on the NCAA tourney, which Utah will go to this year.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
check out the Poeltl vs. Upshaw video:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jakob-Poeltl-63039/
Basically, Upshaw is really athletic, but is more lackadaisical. Poeltl plays harder and smarter, but not as athletic.

Interesting thing about Poeltl: draftexpress has him going just outside the lottery, nbadraft.net doesn't have him being drafted! There is not a lot of consensus on some players right now. I think a lot will hinge on the NCAA tourney, which Utah will go to this year.
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Poeltl will be out of reach, he's a lock for the lotto.

Hernangomez, btw, has near identical numbers across the board to his teammate P. Kristaps, a lock to be a top-5 pick. They are only separated by a year in age.

Upshaw's pre-draft interviews will be interesting. How can he convince GM's to overlook his weed issues? Dude is an elite rim protector and a legit 7-foot.
 
He was really repetitive but he did drop a sleeper outside Poeltl - Malik Pope:



Believes in a bigger role he'd be a top-10 guy.

A 6'10" wing with range.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
He was really repetitive but he did drop a sleeper outside Poeltl - Malik Pope:



Believes in a bigger role he'd be a top-10 guy.

A 6'10" wing with range.
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He can ball. I followed him closely in high school, he was almost a Zag.
 


Struggled against NBA-caliber length and size but shows a lot of potential.

Meeks is like Z-Bo in a lot of ways. Though, he doesn't have the crazy length of Zach. At his size (6'9.5", 270 lbs.) he is a quick leaper with a soft touch.

WIDE body. Physically I think the best comp is Glen Davis. Talent-wise I think he's Randolph-lite.
 
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Realistic targets, I'd rank them:

#1) Willy Hernangomez


#2) Robert Upshaw
#3) Frank Kaminsky
#4) Christian Wood
#5) Kennedy Meeks
#6) Jake Layman


Buying a second rounder: Mamadou Ndiaye
 
Way too early, but anyone think DWright's brother will be an option with our pick? Lillard was bitching on Twitter about a Duck winning Pac 12 Player of the Year over him...
 
I would've gone Wright:

Young: 19.8 PPG | 4.5 RPG | 3.6 APG | 27 USG% | 22.1 PER

Wright: 15.1 PPG | 5.8 RPG | 5.3 APG | 22 USG% | 30.3 PER

This was a snub.

Fwiw, Delon will be out of reach. We'll pick around 26 and he'll end up in the mid-first area.
 
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