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PtldPlatypus said:
There is another ref barely visible in the bottom right corner of the vid who appears to have seen the assault.
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It didn't seem like he had much of a reaction. That is assault. Should be in jail. He looked back to make sure the ref wasn't looking then leveled the other player. I guess he didn't realize the other ref was watching.
 
Both teams should have jumped him and let him know what they think of cheap ass shots like that. I'm not a violent person whatsoever but he wouldn't have walked out of that gym on his own after that move.
 
oldmangrouch said:
At this point in their respective careers, ET is the more valuable player. Hayward also has the distinction of being one of the few NBA players who is more over-paid.
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Their stats are very close in most areas with a slight edge to ET in both assists and most advanced stats:

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However, their contracts are not close:

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BNM
 
Chris Craig said:
It didn't seem like he had much of a reaction. That is assault. Should be in jail. He looked back to make sure the ref wasn't looking then leveled the other player. I guess he didn't realize the other ref was watching.
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And he needs to see a sports therapist or psychologist before getting back on the court (if they allow him to play again).
 
I think it's a bit disingenuous to compare Turner and Hayward after a half quarter of a season where:

1. Hayward is coming off a MAJOR injury
2. Turner is playing better than he has his entire career and is still just an average-below average player

Hayward has a track record of being an all-star/near all-star type player. Of course you can take the stance that he will never be the same type of player and maybe there's some truth to that, but we wouldn't even be discussing this situation if he didn't have these associated risks.

I wouldn't be surprised if it takes Hayward a year or more to return to form or close to it. I think if the option was "turn Turner into Hayward" you definitely have to consider it (not that I think Boston would).
 
Boob-No-More said:
He needs to figure out how to beat the teams they should beat without playing his starters so many minutes. He also needs to learn when to throw in the towel and not continue to play his starters when he's down 20 with 6 minutes left in the game. I thought it was absolute insanity that he played CP3 37 minutes in the game against us. They were down 22 with 5:31 left in the game and D'Antoni didn't pull CP3 until 57 seconds left in the game. What the actual fuck was he trying to accomplish? Keep the point spread under 20 (we won by 19)? There was absolutely no reason CP should have been in the game. He should have pulled him when we went up by 25 with 8:45 left in the game. Those last 8 minutes CP3 played were pointless.

He also played CP3 late into the 4th quarter in a 20-point loss to the Clippers and an 18-point loss to OKC.

Look at the starter's minutes for both teams in the LAC vs. HOU and POR vs. HOU games.

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In both cases, the winning coach was smart enough to rest his starters when he had a big lead. In both cases, D'Antoni continued to play his starters big minutes late into the 4th quarter, in games he had no chance of winning? That's almost criminal given the age and history of his roster. Why, when the other team has a >20 point lead in the 4th quarter, is he not resting his starters and using those minutes to develop the guys he has on the bench? It seems beyond stupid to me.

BNM
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I understand... Thats not my point though. If you were the rockets and your choice was lose or play your starters a lot, you’d probably rather play your starters. Of course Dantoni putting his stars in when down 20 with 3 minutes left os idiotic. My point is just if their only shot to win is to play their stars, then they should play their stars.
Its nice seeing that team come back down from last year, the fact they have to play their stars a ton of minutes is all good news for me.

Edit: I think they destroyed their depth this summer, I dont think their bench is good enough to win them anything. I think their only hope to win is Harden, CP3 and or Gordon having big games. They got rid of all the glue guys...
 
B-Roy said:
I think it's a bit disingenuous to compare Turner and Hayward after a half quarter of a season where:

1. Hayward is coming off a MAJOR injury
2. Turner is playing better than he has his entire career and is still just an average-below average player

Hayward has a track record of being an all-star/near all-star type player. Of course you can take the stance that he will never be the same type of player and maybe there's some truth to that, but we wouldn't even be discussing this situation if he didn't have these associated risks.

I wouldn't be surprised if it takes Hayward a year or more to return to form or close to it. I think if the option was "turn Turner into Hayward" you definitely have to consider it (not that I think Boston would).
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I think the point was money. Hayward is due 67 million over the next two years. (after this season)
ET is owed 18 mil. If I am Boston and liked ET the last time he was there....I make the trade)
 
HCP said:
I feel like I am the LeBron of this forum. Great father/husband. Does tremendous things for the community. Handles his business at work with the best of ‘em.
Yet still is HATED on by most. We accept your HATE. We use it as fuel to better ourselves. We thrive off your HATE!
HATE on crackas..... HATE on!
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Balding badly but in denial... can't hold down a job at the same place for more than 3 years running... ex-bosses write angry notes in Comic Sans after you leave... insists that everybody watch an hour long show about every fucking decision you make...
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think the point was money. Hayward is due 67 million over the next two years. (after this season)
ET is owed 18 mil. If I am Boston I totally do it.
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Neither player, even at their best, is worth their contract. But assuming they are at their best (or close to it), I would still rather have Hayward on his deal than Turner on his. I think most teams in the league would agree as well.
 
dviss1 said:
How did Polish become white?
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Pinwheel1 said:
I think the point was money. Hayward is due 67 million over the next two years. (after this season)
ET is owed 18 mil. If I am Boston and liked ET the last time he was there....I make the trade)
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Bingo. Hayward's contract is grotesque.

I would add that whether the topic is Hayward or Melo, people need to stop worrying about the players they WERE and focus on the players they ARE.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
There is another ref barely visible in the bottom right corner of the vid who appears to have seen the assault.
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And now that I know it was 3 person mechanics, the lead official is doing a GREAT JOB of focusing on his primary area. He should only see that shooter of there are only 2 refs.
 
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The kid who assaulted the other kid has not only been kicked off the team, but kicked out of school. Not even allowed on campus! Other ref saw the punch and kicked him out immediately.
 
Finally watching Doncic. He’s great and bigger than I thought.
 
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