Event 2018 NBA Draft

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Reep said:
My worst nightmare of Draft Night: "With the 24th pick, Portland selects Grayson Allen". Might be followed closely by picking Simons in the first round.
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Nah, Simons is much better than Grayson Allen. I can't stand that dude.
 
BonesJones said:
Huh? By shooting pocket do you mean set point?
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My coaches always said shot pocket in reference to where you start your shooting motion. So for most guys it starts about chest level maybe slightly lower, but the idea when passing to a jump shooter is his job is to already have his hands in position to start the motion and his feet / legs as well, but the pass should hit him in his hands so he doesn’t have to do any extra motions to get into his shot. Maybe My terminology is off?
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
My coaches always said shot pocket in reference to where you start your shooting motion. So for most guys it starts about chest level maybe slightly lower, but the idea when passing to a jump shooter is his job is to already have his hands in position to start the motion and his feet / legs as well, but the pass should hit him in his hands so he doesn’t have to do any extra motions to get into his shot. Maybe My terminology is off?
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You're correct, I understand you now. Think is, most guys shot pocket involves their shooting hand on top of the ball to start, and it's very difficult to catch a ball in that manner, so most of the time players will dip to get to their shot pocket and up through their shot line and it helps them with their rhythm.
 
BonesJones said:
Nah, Simons is much better than Grayson Allen. I can't stand that dude.
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Agreed, but I don't want Simons at 24. Feels like a huge reach on a player with a long road to usefulness who is a bit undersized as well. Allen to me would be the Nolan Smith of this draft.
 
Reep said:
Agreed, but I don't want Simons at 24. Feels like a huge reach on a player with a long road to usefulness who is a bit undersized as well. Allen to me would be the Nolan Smith of this draft.
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One 'Nolan Smith' per 20 years is more than enough.
 
Reep said:
Agreed, but I don't want Simons at 24. Feels like a huge reach on a player with a long road to usefulness who is a bit undersized as well. Allen to me would be the Nolan Smith of this draft.
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The forum has kinda changed my mind on him tbh. His upside is pretty high for someone available there.
 
BonesJones said:
The forum has kinda changed my mind on him tbh. His upside is pretty high for someone available there.
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Simons is reminiscent of Austin Rivers or Lou Williams as a player with a point guard size, but a shooting guard’s skill set.
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Simons will be like Rivers or Williams in two years if we are lucky. How many point guard sized shooting guards do we need? If we traded CJ for someone else or 2-4 lottery pick then I could see it. But, otherwise . . .
 
Reep said:
Simons will be like Rivers or Williams in two years if we are lucky. How many point guard sized shooting guards do we need? If we traded CJ for someone else or 2-4 lottery pick then I could see it. But, otherwise . . .
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Hes taller and more athletic than Lou, and definitely more athletic than Rivers. There's so many guards around #24 that it'll be hard not to take one.
 
BonesJones said:
Hes taller and more athletic than Lou, and definitely more athletic than Rivers. There's so many guards around #24 that it'll be hard not to take one.
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Agreed. I'm still holding out that Neil has someone he likes in the 15-20 range, and can work some magic to get there. Not too excited about who is available at 24, but 15-20 there will be some players that could really help.
 
glazeduck said:
CHRIST ALMIGHTY! @BonesJones can you seriously not go one fucking day without overtaking a thread (or the whole damn board) with a petty, pointless argument?

This isn't a contest. You don't win anything by always having the last word. You're entitled to your own opinion, so is Dviss, but what the hell does this have to do with the NBA draft and why does it need an entire page worth of posts about it?!?

JUST LET SOME OF THESE THINGS GO DUDE. PLEASE!
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Right????
 
BonesJones said:
What's funny is, I've heard Dviss say that as much as anyone. Nobody says anything. The moment I say it (in a respectful manner), I get bashed.
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What are you talking about? Heard me say what?
 
I only see one similarity between Nolan smith and Grayson Allen - Duke. Allen is far more athletic and much stronger than Nolan Smith.
 
BonesJones said:
He said "So much wrong with this post".. so I responded in kind? Maybe I was more blunt but he basically implied I didn't know what I was talking about since there was so much wrong in my post. Sorry...
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Don't be so sensitive man... You took what I said and amplified it 100x. It wasn't that serious.

The logistical fact is any movement of the ball away from the rim during your shooting motion is a waste of time.
 
dviss1 said:
Don't be so sensitive man... You took what I said and amplified it 100x. It wasn't that serious.

The logistical fact is any movement of the ball away from the rim during your shooting motion is a waste of time.
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Do you have a dip in your shot? I'm honestly just curious and I don't remember. Not looking to argue haha.
 
calvin natt said:
I only see one similarity between Nolan smith and Grayson Allen - Duke. Allen is far more athletic and much stronger than Nolan Smith.
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I think it is more the intangibles, or lack thereof. They were both great college players, who don't have the physical attributes or skills to be at the same level in the NBA. Only coincidence they played for the same team. I liked Allen in college, but don't see him on a roster in the NBA in a few years. He isn't a PG and he is undersized on both ends for SG. He is a very poor man's Patty C.
 
KeepOnRollin said:
Example of what people are talking about. HCPs post was nothing about you and you go make it... Why?
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I just posted it so that he won't complain because he always does, and I don't think he wants me predicting his moves before he makes them! Haha.
 
I don’t really read or participate in the annual draft day stuff. It’s all guesses anyway. A giant crapshoot. So I may have missed this on here, but did anybody mention how Mr. Allen didn’t attend any of the workouts? Never happened before.
 
HCP said:
I don’t really read or participate in the annual draft day stuff. It’s all guesses anyway. A giant crapshoot. So I may have missed this on here, but did anybody mention how Mr. Allen didn’t attend any of the workouts? Never happened before.
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Pick is getting traded
 
BonesJones said:
Do you have a dip in your shot? I'm honestly just curious and I don't remember. Not looking to argue haha.
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Not sure it matters, if he does or not he’s probably not judged at his job by how well he can get his shot off vs nba athletes heh. Guys in the draft will be judged by if they can get their shot off or not. Anyways I don’t want to get to involved with this discussion, I have more than likely never seen him shoot.
 
Gronk Brady said:
Yes, so let me hear about some deals involving Blazers that fell thru to know Neil is trying...
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You actually think I share shit on here that I know or hear about over the course of the year? I actually hope we do nothing and bring back the exact same team just to see you have to copy and paste your shit show posts until NEXT draft.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Not sure it matters, if he does or not he’s probably not judged at his job by how well he can get his shot off vs nba athletes heh. Guys in the draft will be judged by if they can get their shot off or not. Anyways I don’t want to get to involved with this discussion, I have more than likely never seen him shoot.
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I have I just forgot so I asked! If I see him dip the ball this weekend I'm gonna be on his ass!!!! Haha. Jk.

I just view it as a windup. Big dips are definitely bad but little baby ones are fine. Just my thoughts. It's an interesting discussion.
 
HCP said:
You actually think I share shit on here that I know or hear about over the course of the year? I actually hope we do nothing and bring back the exact same team just to see you have to copy and paste your shit show posts until NEXT draft.
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Not talking about you... just in general... there are 2 sides to every trade... so even if Neil is tight lipped, the other side can leak info... I’m just saying I’d be happy to hear Blazers mentioned in a rumor to show effort... because where there is smoke there is usually fire in terms of discussions at least
 
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