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illmatic99 said:
eh? are you unfamiliar with the economics? this is supply/demand
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underpaying someone is not cool at all

pay people what theyre worth, simple as that

nurk was already underpaid on his previous contract, if they do it again, he should tell them to go fuck themselves
 
Mr. Robot said:
underpaying someone is not cool at all

pay people what theyre worth, simple as that
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when you're dealing with the CBA, the cap, and max contracts, this isn't a free market.

And if we're giving him a deal larger than any other team, how is that not paying him what he's worth?
 
TBpup said:
Slavery? For a volunteer contract signed by someone for double-digit millions of dollars per year....to play a game?

That is a disservice/disrespectful to those who actual suffered through slavery.
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this is modern day slavery

were not gonna pay you what you deserve, but instead were gonna underpay you cause you cant get better offer elsewhere

and of course everyone would expect nurk to perform at his highest level and if he dont, well, lets jsut say comments wouldnt be pretty
 
illmatic99 said:
when you're dealing with the CBA, the cap, and max contracts, this isn't a free market.

And if we're giving him a deal larger than any other team, how is that not paying him what he's worth?
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context matters

some teams dont have money, some teams prefer other type of center, some teams prefer to invest in other positions, some teams already have a center theyre happy with, its really not simple as you put it
 
Mr. Robot said:
this is modern day slavery

were not gonna pay you what you deserve, but instead were gonna underpay you cause you cant get better offer elsewhere

and of course everyone would expect nurk to perform at his highest level and if he dont, well, lets jsut say comments wouldnt be pretty
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It is not slavery simply because he does not have to sign if he does not like it, so stop with this nonsense.
 
I'd be shocked if Nurk signs a team friendly deal. The way he sat out the end of the season seems like he was promised an enticing amount.

If the Blazers need space under the apron or to dip the tax more likely IMO they trade Winslow, Little, trade/stretch EBEC, etc.
 
Mr. Robot said:
this is modern day slavery

were not gonna pay you what you deserve, but instead were gonna underpay you cause you cant get better offer elsewhere

and of course everyone would expect nurk to perform at his highest level and if he dont, well, lets jsut say comments wouldnt be pretty
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I never realized I've been a slave for 20 years.
 
Mr. Robot said:
this is modern day slavery

were not gonna pay you what you deserve, but instead were gonna underpay you cause you cant get better offer elsewhere

and of course everyone would expect nurk to perform at his highest level and if he dont, well, lets jsut say comments wouldnt be pretty
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lol i don't think you have any context on what slavery is. please stop using that term for this situation.
 
Mr. Robot said:
this is modern day slavery

were not gonna pay you what you deserve, but instead were gonna underpay you cause you cant get better offer elsewhere

and of course everyone would expect nurk to perform at his highest level and if he dont, well, lets jsut say comments wouldnt be pretty
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What he deserves? Nurk has averaged 51 games per season in his career. In those games, he seems engaged 1/2 the time. When he is engaged, he is good. But when he is not, it is very frustrating. Also, he has always been a below average efficiency center for his career. There is a reason bigs aren't getting large amounts of money except for the elite bigs. Nurk is a long way from elite. If he was so valuable, there would have been teams lining up to bid on his services.

I appreciate your love for the Beast, but reality has to kick in at some point.
 
nurk is easily worth max contract and some people think ayton is better lol
 
back on topic... here's what the numbers look like now:

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So we have to fit Walker and Nurk into about 16.49 mil to be under the apron. That also allows us to sign a backup C for the BAE, which we might as well do since we're already hard-capped.
 
TBpup said:
What he deserves? Nurk has averaged 51 games per season in his career. In those games, he seems engaged 1/2 the time. When he is engaged, he is good. But when he is not, it is very frustrating. Also, he has always been a below average efficiency center for his career. There is a reason bigs aren't getting large amounts of money except for the elite bigs. Nurk is a long way from elite. If he was so valuable, there would have been teams lining up to bid on his services.

I appreciate your love for the Beast, but reality has to kick in at some point.
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I agree somewhat on Nurk, and you can see some of the same low points with Ayton. Both are pouters when the chips are down. That has to change. I think Nurk is a better value at what he's gonna get paid. Everyone says Phoenix is doing it right, but all of a sudden, their wrong on Ayton. There's a reason they don't want to give him max money, and i don't want the Blazers to either. Re-sign Nurk.
 
Mr. Robot said:
nurk is easily worth max contract
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Mr. Robot said:
context matters

some teams dont have money, some teams prefer other type of center, some teams prefer to invest in other positions, some teams already have a center theyre happy with, its really not simple as you put it
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If teams have centers they're happy with, or prefer a different type of center, or prefer to invest in other positions, then clearly Nurk is not "worth" a max contract to them. That's how labor for hire works. Nurk is "worth" whatever is is able to garner from those to whom he desires to sell his services.
 
Nurk is simply holding out for someone to offer him 80/4
 
Mitchell Robinson got 4/60 so yeah...Nurk gonna be waiting a very long time for 4/80 :dunno:
 
AmirIcon said:
I love Nurk, but Ayton is better in everything besides passing. And he doesn't have the injury history and is younger.
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makes you wonder why contending phoenix suns dont want to give him max contract

they obviously think they can contend without ayton and with some other center how will earn much less
 
tykendo said:
I agree somewhat on Nurk, and you can see some of the same low points with Ayton. Both are pouters when the chips are down. That has to change. I think Nurk is a better value at what he's gonna get paid. Everyone says Phoenix is doing it right, but all of a sudden, their wrong on Ayton. There's a reason they don't want to give him max money, and i don't want the Blazers to either. Re-sign Nurk.
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Perfectly reasonable. Ayton does have some concerning 'traits' and I would be very wary of giving him a max or close to it.
 
tykendo said:
Everyone says Phoenix is doing it right, but all of a sudden, their wrong on Ayton. There's a reason they don't want to give him max money
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Who says the Suns are doing it right? They're notoriously cheap and didn't want to give the qualifying offer to their other lottery pick, Jalen Smith. They don't have more than a handful of scouts because they're cheap.

I'm not one to want to put your resources in a center, but when they're as good as Ayton, at his age and potential, you do it.

All day long.
 
AmirIcon said:
I love Nurk, but Ayton is better in everything besides passing. And he doesn't have the injury history and is younger.
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We have a better chance of Durant being acquired, than overpaying Ayton in a S & T. Plus he pouts too.
 
AmirIcon said:
Who says the Suns are doing it right? They're notoriously cheap and didn't want to give the qualifying offer to their other lottery pick, Jalen Smith. They don't have more than a handful of scouts because they're cheap.

I'm not one to want to put your resources in a center, but when they're as good as Ayton, at his age and potential, you do it.

All day long.
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You haven't been watching the Nat'l BBall shows. They've been lauding the Suns the past 2 years.
 
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