2022 Free Agency Thread

[wizenheimer]

Yep.

Hire a guard as coach. Get a team full of guards.

Stotts was a forward but had a team of guards

 

[HansenYang]

Rules Question:

Theoretically, since the Grant deal isn’t finalized … can the Blazers fit him under the TPE and then simultaneously trade him elsewhere? [alone or in a package]

IIRC, in a trade including Bledsoe rather than the TPE, he could be moved in a simultaneous trade in a package.

[Thanks, in advance, for the CBA knowledge.]

Yes - soon as Grant is a Blazer, they can trade him to another team. He can be traded with others, but his salary can not be aggregated with other players for ~60-days.

For example Grant + Keon Johnson could be traded to Atlanta for Collins + Jalen Johnson because Grant <-> Collins & Johnson <-> Johnson

However, Grant ($20M) + Bledsoe ($20M) could not be traded for Durant ($44M) because you have to aggregate Grant + Bledsoe's contracts to be able to afford Durant.

 

[HansenYang]

not worth the pick or whatever we'll have to send them back in addition. i don't trust Cronin for deals to give us "flexibility. "

Bledsoe could easily be included in the Grant trade to Detroit (along with $5M in cash).
It looks like Detroit will need the extra salary to even get to the floor this year anyhow.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

honestly don't see the point in shipping him out in the grant trade. it's not like we can use the TPE for anything else.

True, now that we have signed GP2.

One option would be to trade Bledsoe with cash to a team like Indiana, taking back smaller deals that go elsewhere. They will be taking on a lot of small deals to make the Brogdon trade work.

 

[illmatic99]

True, now that we have signed GP2.

One option would be to trade Bledsoe with cash to a team like Indiana, taking back smaller deals that go elsewhere. They will be taking on a lot of small deals to make the Brogdon trade work.

i think a bledsoe for muscala deal could work. we'd have to give OKC an asset though.

 

[RR7]

i think a bledsoe for muscala deal could work. we'd have to give OKC an asset though.

I believe they waived his guarantee, and then re-signed him to a minimum.

 

[illmatic99]

I believe they waived his guarantee, and then re-signed him to a minimum.

ugh missed that. nvm

 

[illmatic99]

Some other potential trade targets that we might still add and stay under the apron (~2.2 mil space) if we use Bledsoe (3.9 mil):

- rudy gay (he's at 6.2, would be cutting it close, would need to add someone else)
- cam reddish
- korkmaz
- taj gibson
- jeff green
- thybulle
- niang

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Warriors paid Looney less than we paid GP2.

 

[Scalma]

Some other potential trade targets that we might still add and stay under the apron (~2.2 mil space) if we use Bledsoe (3.9 mil):

- rudy gay (he's at 6.2, would be cutting it close, would need to add someone else)
- cam reddish
- korkmaz
- taj gibson
- jeff green
- thybulle
- niang

Reddish and Thybulle make the most sense among these names. The others are more PFs.

 

[DDolla]

Our team is not going anywhere. Cronin sucks! Need a new owner and an experience GM. Just sad

 

[illmatic99]

Reddish and Thybulle make the most sense among these names. The others are more PFs.

i think i want more PFs. Thybulle doesn't add much more than what GP2 does.

also, i'm uncertain still of how the $ would work in any bledsoe trade for the team getting him.

 

[Scalma]

i think i want more PFs. Thybulle doesn't add much more than what GP2 does.

also, i'm uncertain still of how the $ would work in any bledsoe trade for the team getting him.

Grant, Watford, and Winslow are a good trio at the four. I wouldnt want any of those above listed taking minutes away from Watford for example.

 

[illmatic99]

Some other potential trade targets that we might still add and stay under the apron (~2.2 mil space) if we use Bledsoe (3.9 mil):

- rudy gay (he's at 6.2, would be cutting it close, would need to add someone else)
- cam reddish
- korkmaz
- taj gibson
- jeff green
- thybulle
- niang

@PtldPlatypus @RR7 @B-Roy @hoopsjock

does something like this comply with the CBA? does a team like Utah need more incentive?

Partial guarantee Bledsoe + Keon + future second for Gay?

 

[Freshtown]

Wish we could find a way to get warren, jalen smith, or both.

 

[craigehlo]

 

[B-Roy]

@PtldPlatypus @RR7 @B-Roy @hoopsjock

does something like this comply with the CBA? does a team like Utah need more incentive?

Partial guarantee Bledsoe + Keon + future second for Gay?

Pretty sure we can add someone up to 8.9M (3.9 + 5 we have under the room exception) if Bledsoe is also outgoing. But the tricky part is if you guarantee Bledsoe for 3.9 the other team needs to be able to receive Bledsoe as if he's making 19M. So all those options are probably out the door unless there's multiple players coming back.

But it's honestly fine because I don't want any of those guys playing minutes over the players already on the team, save maybe Thybulle who would cost way more than a second.

 

[Scalma]

I wonder what Avdija's asking price is.

 

[illmatic99]

Pretty sure we can add someone up to 8.9M (3.9 + 5 we have under the room exception) if Bledsoe is also outgoing. But the tricky part is if you guarantee Bledsoe for 3.9 the other team needs to be able to receive Bledsoe as if he's making 19M. So all those options are probably out the door unless there's multiple players coming back.

But it's honestly fine because I don't want any of those guys playing minutes over the players already on the team, save maybe Thybulle who would cost way more than a second.

so they would need space to take on 19 mil of bledsoe's deal, but would only really pay him 3.9 mil. And we can't take back much more than 3.9 because of our hard cap.

That leaves only indiana/detroit/san antonio/okc as potential trade partners then if we want to move Bled?

 

[RR7]

@PtldPlatypus @RR7 @B-Roy @hoopsjock

does something like this comply with the CBA? does a team like Utah need more incentive?

Partial guarantee Bledsoe + Keon + future second for Gay?

From what I've read, regardless of guarantee amount, Bledsoe would count as his full outgoing salary to the receiving team. They wouldn't be paying that full amount, but they'd need to be able to fit it in. Whereas for us, he counts at whatever we guarantee him at.

 

[illmatic99]

So we can theoretically still sign and trade for either TJ Warren or Jalen Smith using Bledsoe + stuff if their $ numbers end up being around the TP MLE?

- Or Zach Collins from SA.

- Or Darius Bazley (he seems like a headache)...

 

[Blazinaway]

has Jalen Smith signed anywhere?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

From what I've read, regardless of guarantee amount, Bledsoe would count as his full outgoing salary to the receiving team. They wouldn't be paying that full amount, but they'd need to be able to fit it in. Whereas for us, he counts at whatever we guarantee him at.

I will be stunned if we move EB for anything of value. Just because of the Blazers' history, not because I don't believe in Cronin.

Fool me once....

 

[Labinot41]

Holy shit

 

[RR7]

Holy shit

Wow

 

[illmatic99]

Here comes the Utah rebuild. I love that Edwards-Towns-Gobert trio.

 

[RR7]

 

[Scalma]

Wolves L

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

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[Cugel]

didnt see that one coming