Game Thread 2024-25 GAME #12 - NBA CUP - BLAZERS VS TWOLVES - NOV 12, 2024 - TUES - 7 PM - KATU 2.2, BV

[SharpesTriumph]

Our next cup game in Friday Nov22 at Houston. If we win that, or especially win with double digits - it will make the last two games super exciting. With a comfortable win at Houston we very possibly would only need to win one of those final two games to advance. After somehow beating the Wolves we have a manageable schedule - last two games are;

Friday 11/29 Kings in Portland
Tuesday 12/3 Clippers in LA

 

[wizenheimer]

Robert Williams shoots 73% from the FIELD in his career. Career!

That's just wild even if he's just around the rim.

it is impressive...his career numbers compared to other similar style C's:

Timelord: avg shot distance 3.5'....FG% 73.1%....FG% at rim 80.9%
Gobert: avg shot distance 2.2'....FG% 65.5%....FG% at rim 74.3%
Drummond: avg shot distance 3.3'....FG% 54.2%....FG% at rim 64.1%
Jarrett Allen: avg shot distance 3.8'....FG% 63.1%....FG% at rim 74.9%
Capela: avg shot distance 2.1'....FG% 62.1%....FG% at rim 70.2%
Claxton: avg shot distance 3.8'....FG%66.1%....FG% at rim 79.2%
Steven Adams: avg shot distance 3.2'....FG% 58.7%....FG% at rim 66.7%
Poeltl: avg shot distance 3.7'....FG% 62.8%....FG% at rim 72.7%

couldn't think of any other 'hangs-around-the-rim' guys. Still, Timelord is the most efficient. Obviously his problem is durability; in his first 6 seasons (this is his 7th), he's averaged less than 36 games a season. Even in this season, he's already missed 9 of 12 games

 

[Hoopguru]

I know the notion that players playing well drives up trade value; and the inverse playing poorly deflates their value. I think that may be true for young players especially. But I'm really skeptical it's true for 7th year veterans like Simons and Ayton. I think the NBA knows very well what kind of players they are and what they are not. A shooting slump to start a season won't change that. Both of these guys have major flaws and they haven't corrected those flaws in 6 NBA season. I don't believe any team would pay much for either of these guys. Ayton is the opposite of what most teams want in a C; and Simons is the opposite of what most teams want in a wing, and possesses remedial PG skills

Not real sure what RW's injury history/status is, but if he can play like last night offers should come in. I could see him being a good big man coach for the Block Lobster.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I know the notion that players playing well drives up trade value; and the inverse playing poorly deflates their value. I think that may be true for young players especially. But I'm really skeptical it's true for 7th year veterans like Simons and Ayton. I think the NBA knows very well what kind of players they are and what they are not. A shooting slump to start a season won't change that. Both of these guys have major flaws and they haven't corrected those flaws in 6 NBA season. I don't believe any team would pay much for either of these guys. Ayton is the opposite of what most teams want in a C; and Simons is the opposite of what most teams want in a wing, and possesses remedial PG skills

Ha. I went to bed after posting that and predicted to myself that it would draw a Wizenheimer response! I do agree they have little to no value but there have been times in their careers where they looked a lot better than they do now.

 

[wizenheimer]

Ha. I went to bed after posting that and predicted to myself that it would draw a Wizenheimer response! I do agree they have little to no value but there have been times in their careers where they looked a lot better than they do now.

exactly....both are in their 7th seasons. I think they are in the 'you-know-what-you're-getting' stage of their careers and the relative value is established. A hot streak or a could streak isn't going to substantially alter their value(s). About the only thing that could is desperation in another front office, but I doubt any GM would be desperate enough to move a 1st round pick for either.

 

[HailBlazers]

 

[Dozer]

Not sustainable is all I mean

Likely true. All the more reason to enjoy a historic night.

 

[KingSpeed]

To be fair we signed Grant after Dame asked out, and we didn't trade either of them over the last year and a half when we had numerous chances.

This is not true. As re-signed Grant before Dame asked out.

 

[KingSpeed]

that court...I can't decide if I liked it or hated it. Looked like the whole game was played out of bounds

* in 48 hours, Blazers played their worst game, and best game of the season. And yes, I sure noticed that the Blazers played their worst game when my two least favorite players were out there; and the best game when they weren't

* Blazers are a dominant team when they are shooting 60% from three and Timelord is roaming. Deni having his first good game of the season was a big help

* I know Grant had 8 assists, but it still seemed like he went ISO way too much

* on that steal and layup by Sharpe, was I the only one who noticed he effortlessly flew about 15 feet thru the air and changed his shot posture 3 times?

* Banton can look great 3 times and terrible 3 times, and do it on all on two straight possessions

* it's his 3rd season so I'd like to see Sharpe defer less and drift less on offense....and assert himself more

You realize an ISO is a great way to get assists? ISO doesn’t mean “don’t pass.”

 

[wizenheimer]

You realize an ISO is a great way to get assists? ISO doesn’t mean “don’t pass.”

no...didn't realize that; but then I'm 14 years old and never watched the NBA till last night

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Camara talks to Anthony Edwards, his former college teammate.

 

[STOMP]

To be fair we signed Grant after Dame asked out, and we didn't trade either of them over the last year and a half when we had numerous chances.

You are correct that they technically signed Grant after Dame asked out, but Portland had agreed to terms with Grant the day before Dame went public with trade demands. Had the Blazers reversed course it would have been a horrible look for them with players (& agents) across the league. Presumably they offered the massive deal in an attempt to keep Lillard in PDX to play with the friend he'd initially lobbied they trade for. Without Dame here Grant clearly didn't fit the team's timeline and his contract was said by many here to be unmovable. I would hope that had they known for sure Dame was gone there would have been no way in hell they would have signed him to that deal as it made no sense with the state of their remaining roster. It seems Dame wanted to do his friend a solid while leaving a flaming catch 22 pile on Cronin's doorstep

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