Game Thread 2024-25 GAME #15 - BLAZERS @ THUNDER - NOVEMBER 20, 2024 - 5:00 PM PST - KATU - CHARGE - BV

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Not as much as you think. It would be like us flying home from SF. Guys got back from practice about 8pm here at the hotel. So we have a 6 hour edge if you really want to break it down.

But they played a game tonight. We practiced. Big difference.
Regardless it’s going to be tough to get a win.
 
The Blazers should have a big advantage in the paint.

Just can't let OKC get extra possessions and cheap baskets on turnovers and fast breaks.
I worry about Clingan mobility in this game, it might be the type of game he needs to sit more and we even play Deni or something at the 5.
 
Was about to say I hope OKC gets close so they keep their starters in.

But with the cup using point differential that might not matter, they'll probably play their starters regardless.

Pretty big advantage to play an opponent when they're on the 2nd of a B2B after a cup game.
 
OKC's bigs are out. The Blazers should hammer them inside from the get-go (that includes Sharpe of course), then get the hell back on defense.

Thunder at least in tonight's game are sticking mainly to missing 3-point shots. 14-49 as of now. over half of their shots.
 
But they played a game tonight. We practiced. Big difference.
Regardless it’s going to be tough to get a win.
Talent wins games son. They could play 3 straight nights and still be favored.
 
OKC's bigs are out. The Blazers should hammer them inside from the get-go (that includes Sharpe of course), then get the hell back on defense.

Thunder at least in tonight's game are sticking mainly to missing 3-point shots. 14-49 as of now. over half of their shots.
OKC are experts at playing small. They're used to bigger opponents trying to exploit them and they know how to counter.

Now I can see us using Timelord, Deni, Camara, etc to play using our height inside. But I don't think Clingan is ready for that. It's actually one of the only opponents I'd trust Ayton more on D right now than Clingan.

Certainly think we should give Clingan a brief chance. But if he gets exploited Billups should have a very short leash, put someone else in. Clingan can work on opponents to exploit when they go small but let's start with an opponent that's not the best defensive team in the league as well as the title favorites.
 
Talent wins games son. They could play 3 straight nights and still be favored.

No shit sherlock! That wasn't my point. Point is that them playing the night before on the road helps us a little bit. Gives us a bit more of a chance to get the W. You can't argue that... son.
 
Game day.

Looking forward to this road trip. This trip will tell us alot about where we are at, if we should tank, define how important it is to trade the vets, etc.
This road trip should define the balance of the season.
 
I would say that OKC losing last night to a Wemby-less Spurs team will not help the Blazers tonight. Back-to-back games are not always a negative. Sometimes it hurts a team and sometimes it helps. The Thunder will be pissed not tired
 
No shit sherlock! That wasn't my point. Point is that them playing the night before on the road helps us a little bit. Gives us a bit more of a chance to get the W. You can't argue that... son.
First of all FAMS….I don’t know why you are yelling at me. What happened to me and your sister was like a decade ago and trust me she wanted it!
Second of all FAMS…..Last nights game had no effect/affect on tonights other than OKC lost a game they probably felt they should have won easily and will take it out on us…..just like I took it out on your sister a decade ago! #BAM

And thirdly of all FAMS….. I just won this argument!
 
I would say that OKC losing last night to a Wemby-less Spurs team will not help the Blazers tonight. Back-to-back games are not always a negative. Sometimes it hurts a team and sometimes it helps. The Thunder will be pissed not tired
See @BoBoBREWSKI , what SHE^ said!
 
First of all FAMS….I don’t know why you are yelling at me. What happened to me and your sister was like a decade ago and trust me she wanted it!
Second of all FAMS…..Last nights game had no effect/affect on tonights other than OKC lost a game they probably felt they should have won easily and will take it out on us…..just like I took it out on your sister a decade ago! #BAM

And thirdly of all FAMS….. I just won this argument!
OKC was highly favored to beat our team handily regardless of the situation.

If you look at teams trends on the 2nd of a back to back they on average perform slightly worse. OKC slightly worse is still much better than our normal play. Bobobrewski logic makes sense, the B2B should help our chances to win tonight.

So maybe instead of a 7% chance to win maybe we're at 10%. Yeah we're likely getting clobbered no matter what.

No I don't buy the thinking that since they lost they're more likely to now win tonight. Teams on average don't generally play better after a loss, it's normally the same level of play or if anything the opposite.

People said the same about Minnesota then we beat them again. In a one game sample anything can happen.
 
OKC was highly favored to beat our team handily regardless of the situation.

If HCP looks at teams trends on the 2nd of a back to back they on average perform slightly worse. OKC slightly worse is still much better than HCP team normal play. Bobobrewski logic makes sense, the B2B should help our chances to win tonight HCP.

So maybe instead of a 7% chance to win maybe HCP were at 10%. Yeah we're likely getting clobbered no matter what HCP?

No I don't buy the thinking HCP that since they lost they're more likely to now win tonight. Teams on average don't generally play better after a loss HCP, it's normally the same level of play or if anything the opposite.

People said the same about Minnesota then we beat them again HCP. In a one game sample anything can happen HCP HCP HCP
 
OKC was highly favored to beat our team handily regardless of the situation.

If HCP looks at teams trends on the 2nd of a back to back they on average perform slightly worse. OKC slightly worse is still much better than HCP team normal play. Bobobrewski logic makes sense, the B2B should help our chances to win tonight HCP.

So maybe instead of a 7% chance to win maybe HCP were at 10%. Yeah we're likely getting clobbered no matter what HCP?

No I don't buy the thinking HCP that since they lost they're more likely to now win tonight. Teams on average don't generally play better after a loss HCP, it's normally the same level of play or if anything the opposite.

People said the same about Minnesota then we beat them again HCP. In a one game sample anything can happen HCP HCP HCP
It’s THE HCP rookie.
 
OKC was highly favored to beat our team handily regardless of the situation.

If HCP looks at teams trends on the 2nd of a back to back they on average perform slightly worse. OKC slightly worse is still much better than HCP team normal play. Bobobrewski logic makes sense, the B2B should help our chances to win tonight HCP.

So maybe instead of a 7% chance to win maybe HCP were at 10%. Yeah we're likely getting clobbered no matter what HCP?

No I don't buy the thinking HCP that since they lost they're more likely to now win tonight. Teams on average don't generally play better after a loss HCP, it's normally the same level of play or if anything the opposite.

People said the same about Minnesota then we beat them again HCP. In a one game sample anything can happen HCP HCP HCP
@SlyPokerDog I’m being harassed again on here. It just gets so frustrating that I follow the rules and get reprimanded and nobody else does. It’s like I’m being bullied!
 
ESPN shows Thunder as an 11.5 favorite but that the betting opened with them as 14 points favorite.

Another site I show live odds of +12, with money line as +500 PDX and -650 OKC. So split the difference and it's +575, which is Blazers should win one in 5.75 games or a 17.4% chance to win.

So it's a big line but I kind of expected our odds to win to be lower.

It's not enough for me to consider any bets, but would sure be exciting if we win. We have a chance slightly better than rolling any single number on a dice.
 
If we win tonight, I am curious if that will change anyones tune about the talent level of this team?
I don't think it'll change much either way, its just one game of an 82 game season. Even if we win Friday it doesn't change a ton either, although those would probably be our two most impressive wins of the season.

We have a hard schedule the next 8 games. If we win two then drop all 6 we're a bit better but still close to where many expected with this team at 8-14. I'd need to see this team be close to .500 or close to that 10th seed for more weeks into the season to really start changing my opinion of where they can ultimately end up.

I will say that it has been very surprising the last 3 wins we have been led by excellent play from our youth. Seems like our vets have played even worse than their detractors thought was likely this season, especially Ant and Ayton. So while we ultimately might be a similar team to what many expected in the preseason, it would be much better for our long term future to have our youth playing so well.
 
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