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Phatguysrule said:
One is attempted rape and the other is successful penetration. I don't necessarily think anybody was trying to argue legal definitions.

The point still stands, don't you think?
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All I'm saying is that there is a difference. If you don't recognize this I don't know what to tell you.

From the Googles...

What is the difference between rape and sexual assault?

In general, you commit the crime of rape if you have non-consensual sexual intercourse with another person by means of physical force or threats. By contrast, you commit the offense of sexual assault if you make sexual contact with a person, as in touching a person's intimate parts, without that person's consent.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
Is that so?


https://www.doj.state.or.us/crime-victims/resources/rape-and-sexual-assault/

You are simply wrong, though i dont ever expect you to admit it:


Sexual assault and sexual abuse take many different forms. By definition, sexual assault is any type of sexual encounter without a person’s consent, including:

  • rape
  • attempted rape
  • child molestation
  • inappropriate touching
  • incest (sexual contact between family members)
  • voyeurism (when someone watches private sexual acts)
  • indecent exposure
  • sexual harassment





  • Facts dont matter though…
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tlongII said:
All I'm saying is that there is a difference. If you don't recognize this I don't know what to tell you.

From the Googles...

What is the difference between rape and sexual assault?

In general, you commit the crime of rape if you have non-consensual sexual intercourse with another person by means of physical force or threats. By contrast, you commit the offense of sexual assault if you make sexual contact with a person, as in touching a person's intimate parts, without that person's consent.
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Its all right here. He is straight up wrong. Yea 1/5 being raped is hyperbole.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
WTF? Is that really true? I find that hard to believe. I sure hope it isn't a fact!
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I told my daughter and all her childhood friends we are still in tough with who are now on campuses, to stay inside and lay low. Do you have any idea how this person winning the election fires these people up? Frat boys will go hard now! It aint always about the price of gas my man. These inbred uneducated fucks have the biggest green light out there. By stock in that company that makes the tiki torches while you can.
 
tlongII said:
All I'm saying is that there is a difference. If you don't recognize this I don't know what to tell you.

From the Googles...

What is the difference between rape and sexual assault?

In general, you commit the crime of rape if you have non-consensual sexual intercourse with another person by means of physical force or threats. By contrast, you commit the offense of sexual assault if you make sexual contact with a person, as in touching a person's intimate parts, without that person's consent.
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It’s like when I was three and the pastor at my church daycare taught me to and rewarded me for having sex with another kid there. You could say I was sexually assaulted, but I wasn’t raped because the pastor never penetrated me. And legally the pastor didn’t rape either of us because he just coerced us to have sex with each other.

Yeah I see the differences now thanks!
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
Its all right here. He is straight up wrong. Yea 1/5 being raped is hyperbole.
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Once again, nobody was talking about legal definitions. I challenge you to find anybody who has been convicted of sexual assault for what you described.

I posted a link that included sexual violence statistics. It's not my problem if you have a problem with that.
 
Hoopguru said:
Throughout my 74 years Ive had tough times to get over, divorce, family death, kid issues, etc, and time heals with an attitude that the tide will turn and learn from mistakes or improvement in areas.
He will be gone in 4 years so lets objectivley figure out how to address area's that we fucked up.
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There are a whole lot of rose-colored assumptions in that post.

I'll give you a little prediction that maybe is hyperbolic, and maybe not: We will not see another Democrat in the WH in at least 12 years, and probably longer.
 
Phatguysrule said:
What you just described is sexual harassment.

And in doing so you twisted the facts to support your narrative.
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I can promise you that if somebody thru my daughter down, beat her up and did whatever else to her and the only thing that DIDN’T happen was penetration…..there would be the same amount of damage to her. Same amount of mental scaring…
 
THE HCP said:
I was told not to reply to the person you replied to here. Obviously does not have daughters…….. I can promise you that if somebody thru my daughter down, beat her up and did whatever else to her and the only thing that DIDN’T happen was penetration…..there would be the same amount of damage to her. Same amount of mental scaring…I can’t believe somebody is actually typing this shit on here!!!
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100%
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
Turns out many here who support the party that preaches tolerance isn't so tolerant of differing views/opinions.
This thread is getting out of hand. Show some respect for eachother.
and again for the record - I am not a fan of Trump - I am a moderate.
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BeerBoy, are you being serious right now? You claim not to be a fan of Trump, yet you voted for him and now defend him against people saying mean things? C’Mon bro.
 
tlongII said:
All I'm saying is that there is a difference. If you don't recognize this I don't know what to tell you.

From the Googles...

What is the difference between rape and sexual assault?

In general, you commit the crime of rape if you have non-consensual sexual intercourse with another person by means of physical force or threats. By contrast, you commit the offense of sexual assault if you make sexual contact with a person, as in touching a person's intimate parts, without that person's consent.
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Please stop…… I’m begging you.

My ex back in the day was jumped by two men and literally had everything physically done to her that could happen EXCEPT penetration! She is fucked up in the head to this day. But I guess she wasn’t raped….. Let’s not go down this road just because we can.
 
wizenheimer said:
oh for chrissakes...yeah, I get you have grievances.

I wasn't saying a fucking thing about what Trump is or isn't, what's ahead or what isn't. I was just wondering about things that may have cost the D's yesterday and asking about one possibility
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This is the problem though. It reeks of “but both sides” and whataboutism. Kamala and Joe have to dot every I and cross every T and cannot make policy mistakes or “welp there goes the election”. But Trump can say during a Presidential Debate that people ARE EATING CATS AND DOGS, and be called “one of my best friends” by Jeff Epstein the WEEK of the election and it’s not even news. Fuck the farmers and the rust belt or whatever
 
THE HCP said:
I told my daughter and all her childhood friends we are still in tough with who are now on campuses, to stay inside and lay low. Do you have any idea how this person winning the election fires these people up? Frat boys will go hard now! It aint always about the price of gas my man. These inbred uneducated fucks have the biggest green light out there. By stock in that company that makes the tiki torches while you can.
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So now you are stereotyping frat boys and all Trump voters are inbred and uneducated?
Let's not be hypocritical.
 
tlongII said:
All I'm saying is that there is a difference. If you don't recognize this I don't know what to tell you.

From the Googles...

What is the difference between rape and sexual assault?

In general, you commit the crime of rape if you have non-consensual sexual intercourse with another person by means of physical force or threats. By contrast, you commit the offense of sexual assault if you make sexual contact with a person, as in touching a person's intimate parts, without that person's consent.
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All I'm saying is that I feel like the point stands.

It's a really tough number to pin down because a lot of rapes are never reported.
 
PCmor7 said:
There are a whole lot of rose-colored assumptions in that post.

I'll give you a little prediction that maybe is hyperbolic, and maybe not: We will not see another Democrat in the WH in at least 12 years, and probably longer.
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I think with the right candidate it’s possible.
If Shapiro was the the vp Kamala wins, he a great communicator.
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
So now you are stereotyping frat boys and all Trump voters are inbred and uneducated?
Let's not be hypocritical.
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If you didn't want to be stereotyped, you wouldn't join a frat, imho.

But HCP isn't saying "all" Trump voters. What he's saying (which is true) is the shittiest idiots in this country that want to have an excuse to harm marginalized people are all Trumpers
 
Phatguysrule said:
Once again, nobody was talking about legal definitions. I challenge you to find anybody who has been convicted of sexual assault for what you described.

I posted a link that included sexual violence statistics. It's not my problem if you have a problem with that.
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uhh obviously someone is. Now. Because legal definitions matter. Not your opinionated definition. You said what i described was not sexual assault. I showed you proof you were wrong.
I'm sorry you are unable to accept factual definitions that you blurred into one lump sum.

Facts matter.
 
this is embarrassing for some of you.

Indecent exposure is considered sexual assault. But it is not attempted rape. It is not sexual harassment as determined by the LAW. It is sexual assault.
but to some, thats clearly attempted rape…..

common sense fails soo often when people discuss with emotions and dismiss facts….
 
PCmor7 said:
There are a whole lot of rose-colored assumptions in that post.

I'll give you a little prediction that maybe is hyperbolic, and maybe not: We will not see another Democrat in the WH in at least 12 years, and probably longer.
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Not sure I understand 12 years or longer? There are more liberals, moderate liberals than conservatives.
 
I have never voted for Trump. However, 72 million people did this year, many of whom were women.
It's probably time for the Democrats to stop blaming the voters and start thinking of ways they can improve.
I think that goes for both parties, but unfortunately, the winning team never looks to change things until they get their asses kicked.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Yet we skew further right every election...
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How do you figure? The national elections swing back and forth every 4-8 years. As for our local elections here on the West Coast, let me know when we move to the right.

Look how many states who voted for Trump also voted for increasing abortion rights.
 
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SharpeScooterShooter said:
First, i am in no way saying one is better than the other or condoning any type pf sexual assault, but to say all sexual assaults are rape is actually wrong. Sexual assault can be verbal. No physical attempted rape.

And this right here is the foundation of the issue many people have. Facts don't matter. Lets just say this is that and that is this so we can look good and others can look bad, without any details of the actual facts.

This type of “reasoning” is why Trump was elected. Because many are sick and tired of people twisting facts to fit a narrative…. Like you just did.

I hope you and others who do this learn from history…..or you will be diss pointed next election as well.
Its like facts and details don't even matter anymore. And whats the most disturbing is some who do this continually say they are using facts and data.

Are we really this naive and unable to separate things based on details anymore?

Like an unwanted pat on the ass of a coworker is actually attempted rape????

gtfo with that nonsense….
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Yeah....and there's very fine people on both sides. C'mon, the way you stretch yourself to always try and take both sides of an issue has to be painful AF. Because sometimes there is only one side to an issue. This is one of those times. And you are absolutely correct! Facts no longer matter. Trump is a convicted felon and adjudicated sex offender. And 70 million people didn't give a fuck. Try giving a female (or even a male) and unwanted pat on the ass and see where it gets you. I'm not sure who the naive one is here.
 
jonnyboy said:
They hate the corporate media and establishment politicians.
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But they have no problem with misinformation social media outlets, podcasts, “news” networks etc. Newsmax and Fox are A-OK. CNN the devil. Cruz Rubio etc who are career politicians are also OK.
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
Is that so?


https://www.doj.state.or.us/crime-victims/resources/rape-and-sexual-assault/

You are simply wrong, though i dont ever expect you to admit it:


Sexual assault and sexual abuse take many different forms. By definition, sexual assault is any type of sexual encounter without a person’s consent, including:

  • rape
  • attempted rape
  • child molestation
  • inappropriate touching
  • incest (sexual contact between family members)
  • voyeurism (when someone watches private sexual acts)
  • indecent exposure
  • sexual harassment





  • Facts dont matter though…
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Several women have claimed he sexually assaulted them/attempted to tape them.

Either way it is fucking wrong and is behavior that cannot be condoned or defended.
 
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