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PtldPlatypus said:
So far Dylan Grant has looked better than either of his higher profile teammates.
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I liked Sommerville also. Bailey made one nice play and that was it. Harper looked better but not much. Bear in mind, I am the guy who watched Holmgren vs. Banchero in a game once and said neither impressed me.
 
Surprised that Rutgers isn't better by this point in the season.
 
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UKRAINEFAN said:
Surprised that Rutgers isn't better by this point in the season.
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It just goes to show, that even with two future NBA stars on the team (according to the "draft experts") how average a team can be, and how average the players can look in college. Just think how much harder it will be their rookie year against NBA talent. (or even summer league talent) Of course that has nothing to do with their projected NBA future.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
It just goes to show, that even with two future NBA stars on the team (according to the "draft experts") how average a team can be, and how average the players can look in college. Just think how much harder it will be their rookie year against NBA talent. (or even summer league talent) Of course that has nothing to do with their projected NBA future.
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Watching the game last night had zero clue there were even “nba prospects” on Rutgers lol
 
Pinwheel1 said:
It just goes to show, that even with two future NBA stars on the team (according to the "draft experts") how average a team can be, and how average the players can look in college. Just think how much harder it will be their rookie year against NBA talent. (or even summer league talent) Of course that has nothing to do with their projected NBA future.
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I was expecting more from both players. bet player on the court hands down imo, was the West Linn kid. But he's short.
 
Hoopguru said:
I was expecting more from both players. bet player on the court hands down imo, was the West Linn kid. But he's short.
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Hopefully, because of his height, Shelstad will stay 2 more years at Oregon. Hopefully, he can make the NBA as a backup. He is very quick and has skills.
 
THE HCP said:
You mean 2 of the top 3 picks this upcoming draft?
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The mock draft for the year that is issued before the start of the college year is very rarely anything like the actual draft. Ask Isaiah Collier, for one recent instance.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
The mock draft for the year that is issued before the start of the college year is very rarely anything like the actual draft. Ask Isaiah Collier, for one recent instance.
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Not sure if I'm understanding correctly, but Ace and Dylan are still firmly consensus top 3-4 guys.

Collier was not at this point in his draft cycle.
 
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Still a big fan of Kon Knueppel. He's like the shooting guard version of Payton Pritchard but better at the same age.

I think he'd be a very nice fit with us too. He's a mixed bag defensively but he competes, smart and his lateral quickness and strength combination gives him some nice value in a 1-4 switch scheme which we like to play.

I see a guy that can efficient on 18-22% usage and be used in a variety of play types....motion shooting sets, hand offs, run some pnr and just overall be a really nice connecting piece offensively with his dribble-pass-shoot skill set.
 
Foxx said:
Watching the game last night had zero clue there were even “nba prospects” on Rutgers lol
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That's true. If anyone had not known those guys were slated for top three, would an observer even think there were first rounders in the game? It's just one game of course, and i wasn't really watching their defense.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
That's true. If anyone had not known those guys were slated for top three, would an observer even think there were first rounders in the game? It's just one game of course, and i wasn't really watching their defense.
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I don't know....Dylan is their primary ball handler and Ace is their tallest player who also takes the most shots off the dribble...that alone would probably give most a decent indication.
 
JDC said:
I don't know....Dylan is their primary ball handler and Ace is their tallest player who also takes the most shots off the dribble...that alone would probably give most a decent indication.
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We're you watching yesterday? At least in the first half, Jeremiah Williams was clearly their primary ball-handler. Harper was secondary. And he and Bailey may have taken the most shots, but nothing about their performance (last night, at least) suggested NBA talent.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
We're you watching yesterday? At least in the first half, Jeremiah Williams was clearly their primary ball-handler. Harper was secondary. And he and Bailey may have taken the most shots, but nothing about their performance (last night, at least) suggested NBA talent.
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I guess it depends on what determines the primary ball handler. Jeremiah brought it up a fair amount but Dylan still initiated far more pnr's.

Anyways, it's a silly conversation.

They didn't play their best but a quick look at age and a stat sheet and it's pretty obvious. And i watched the first half and Dylan still made back to back plays that would raise anyone's eyebrows. Deep step back 3 and a turn around middy I think.
 
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College basketball is a blind spot for me most of the time unless I'm paying attention to young guys Portland has a legit chance of getting. Can someone explain to me how a team like Rutgers that has 2 projected top 3 pick future NBA players has a record of 12-14? is the rest of their team THAT bad? excuse my ignorance on this one.
 
Sean.ivity said:
College basketball is a blind spot for me most of the time unless I'm paying attention to young guys Portland has a legit chance of getting. Can someone explain to me how a team like Rutgers that has 2 projected top 3 pick future NBA players has a record of 12-14? is the rest of their team THAT bad? excuse my ignorance on this one.
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Yes.

Dylan and Ace are the only players in the top 100 for Big Ten BPM.

Worst set of upperclassman in the conference by a good margin
 
Sean.ivity said:
College basketball is a blind spot for me most of the time unless I'm paying attention to young guys Portland has a legit chance of getting. Can someone explain to me how a team like Rutgers that has 2 projected top 3 pick future NBA players has a record of 12-14? is the rest of their team THAT bad? excuse my ignorance on this one.
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Yes, the rest of the team are scrubs pretty much.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
, but nothing about their performance (last night, at least) suggested NBA talent.
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I’ve watched about 15 of their games, they will be the 2nd and 3rd picks in the upcoming draft.
 
If we get lotto lucky and land in the top 3, who would you rather draft of the two?
 
JDC said:
Not sure if I'm understanding correctly, but Ace and Dylan are still firmly consensus top 3-4 guys.

Collier was not at this point in his draft cycle.
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Probably didnt want to put on a spectacular show in front of blazers scouts, may not be a desired destination for either? I think in todays game, location, is a high priority.
 
ant said:
If we get lotto lucky and land in the top 3, who would you rather draft of the two?
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I'm a big Bailey fan. That shot is just beautiful. He can really move for his size. Dare I say that he reminds me of KD. We need length, athleticism and shooting on this roster, he checks all three boxes.
 
blazerkor said:
I'm a big Bailey fan. That shot is just beautiful. He can really move for his size. Dare I say that he reminds me of KD. We need length, athleticism and shooting on this roster, he checks all three boxes.
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I think he is more athletic than KD, but I am not sure many players can shoot as well as KD. Regardless I would choose Ace over Harper.
 
Kevin Young is doing all he can to get two years out of Kanon, and I don't blame him.

So much special with this kid...some team will take a swing in the back half of the first if surprisingly declares.



 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think he is more athletic than KD, but I am not sure many players can shoot as well as KD. Regardless I would choose Ace over Harper.
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Not seeing the Durant comparison at all. I remember Durant in college vividly at Texas and he had such a pure jumper. It was obvious that he’d be elite. He shot the 3 at 40%. Averaged almost 12 rebounds a game and 26 points. He’d take games over at the same age.

Bailey shows glimpses. I think he’ll be good. But not a surefire star like Durant was.
 
MickZagger said:
Not seeing the Durant comparison at all...
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People are looking for the next Durant in every draft, but more often than not, they get a Brandon Miller or Jabari Smith. Tall, lanky shooters that are basically good role players. Sure, it would be great to find the one guy who does end up fitting that profile, but searching for it tends to inflate valuations.
 
MickZagger said:
Not seeing the Durant comparison at all. I remember Durant in college vividly at Texas and he had such a pure jumper. It was obvious that he’d be elite. He shot the 3 at 40%. Averaged almost 12 rebounds a game and 26 points. He’d take games over at the same age.

Bailey shows glimpses. I think he’ll be good. But not a surefire star like Durant was.
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His pop was not a very good pro.
 
handiman said:
People are looking for the next Durant in every draft, but more often than not, they get a Brandon Miller or Jabari Smith. Tall, lanky shooters that are basically good role players. Sure, it would be great to find the one guy who does end up fitting that profile, but searching for it tends to inflate valuations.
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Bailey has a lot more upside than Miller or Smith because he's a better shot-creator off the dribble.
 
Texas Tech has a kid named Christian Anderson. Lights out shooter with decent size.
 
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