Event 2025 NBA DRAFT LOTTERY, COMBINE, AND DRAFT (3 Viewers)

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Rumors:
Philly is talking to SA about trading for the #2
Dumars (New Orleans) really likes Ace Bailey and is trying to trade up for him
Kings "aggressively" trying to move up
Demin falling out of the lottery
All teams (Atlanta, OKC, Orlando, Brooklyn) with multiple first rounders are looking to package them to move up
Givony was recently on dunc'd on and said teams are really scared of Ace. Easily the guy that he's discussed most with teams. Teams up high seem to not really want to take him but are also worried about the fomo if he hits at a high level.
 
Givony was recently on dunc'd on and said teams are really scared of Ace. Easily the guy that he's discussed most with teams. Teams up high seem to not really want to take him but are also worried about the fomo if he hits at a high level.

Major JR Smith vibes from Ace.

I can only imagine how his interviews went.
 
Major JR Smith vibes from Ace.

I can only imagine how his interviews went.
So I'd already watched his combine interview and I went back to watch it again, I also watched a 30 minute interview with Harper and him from during their season at Rutgers. I would love it if we traded up and got Ace. His attitude seems great. He's funny, fun and you can tell he loves basketball. If that means he has a JR Smith type personality, that's cool with me because this dude won't have a little ball player complex. I will say, he sure talks Dylan Harper up a ton... way more than he's trying to put himself over.

So I'd love to have him and I expect this dude to have a great career. 6'8" with that shot, all that athleticism and length is something really special... plus I think he has nice hands and feet to be able to be a big time ball handler and elite defender. I expect him to be something in between PG and KD. People can go ahead and sleep on him though.
 
Honestly it's all a joke right now. Outside the top two or three it's a freaking crap shoot. Your odds of getting lucky in the top 5 are pretty darn good. Outside the top seven... You just take the guy you have the best feeling about and hope for the best. I would probably rather have multiple picks 8-13ish than #8.

I'd probably rather have two picks in the late teens than #14 (unless of course there were a specific guy I could get at 14 who I thought was being overlooked).

But really, it's all just a crap shoot. More bites of that apple is where it's at, IMO.
 
Honestly it's all a joke right now. Outside the top two or three it's a freaking crap shoot. Your odds of getting lucky in the top 5 are pretty darn good. Outside the top seven... You just take the guy you have the best feeling about and hope for the best. I would probably rather have multiple picks 8-13ish than #8.

I'd probably rather have two picks in the late teens than #14 (unless of course there were a specific guy I could get at 14 who I thought was being overlooked).

But really, it's all just a crap shoot. More bites of that apple is where it's at, IMO.
I posted this in another thread, but here's confirmation that this draft is crop shoot -

10 different mock drafts.
8 different picks for the Blazers at #11.

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I posted this in another thread, but here's confirmation that this draft is crop shoot -

10 different mock drafts.
8 different picks for the Blazers at #11.

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Essengue anywhere from 8 to 23; Murray-Boyles 10-28, Richardson mostly in the 20's; only once as high as 11.
 
Since Rasta is too busy to provide us with the details, The Athletic mock has us taking Joan Beringer even though Ace Bailey, Essengue. Murray-Boyles and Demin all available.
It's not even that, it's the whole thing. He has Dallas trading away Flagg, just for the yuks.
 
Wait, so you're saying BPA isn't straight forward?

I think BPA is code for taking whoever you want to take, whenever you want to take them

I mean, didn't Portland take BPA in 2022 with Sharpe? or BPA in 2023 with Scoot? Turns out...not so much
 
I think BPA is code for taking whoever you want to take, whenever you want to take them

I mean, didn't Portland take BPA in 2022 with Sharpe? or BPA in 2023 with Scoot? Turns out...not so much

They took highest potential ceiling with Sharpe. Jury's out on Scoot.
 
I have a new favorite at #16 if they're willing to ignore their need for shooting should they trade Ant.

Joan Beringer.
 
Yeah, I don't think we're going to pass on Maluach for Wolf. The Ringer is off their nut.
I posted this in another thread, but here's confirmation that this draft is crop shoot -

10 different mock drafts.
8 different picks for the Blazers at #11.

upload_2025-6-12_16-54-0-png.74059
 
Someday someone will do a redraft for 2025 and it will look nothing like the actual draft or any of these mocks. Somewhere some columnist or blogger will pull out their crazy mock they did (like this Ringer article) and got most of the picks right out of pure luck. They'll promote themselves as a draft guru when all they did was guess. It's kind of like my wife beating me with her March Madness bracket and she picked teams with cool nicknames. You can't completely write them off because of the luck factor, but any success they had with their predictions was because they did something different from most and got lucky.
 
Their skill chart on Knueppel (ranked 13) has him rated very low on defense and rebounding. Demin rated at 34. Murray-Boyles and Essengue beautiful skill charts and are still the two I like the best. I don't think I ever want a guy rated low on rebounding cuz good rebounding takes toughness and smarts.
 
Their skill chart on Knueppel (ranked 13) has him rated very low on defense and rebounding. Demin rated at 34. Murray-Boyles and Essengue beautiful skill charts and are still the two I like the best. I don't think I ever want a guy rated low on rebounding cuz good rebounding takes toughness and smarts.
Kon is very tough and very smart. He just can't jump and even then he still rebounds at an average level for a SG.
 
Someday someone will do a redraft for 2025 and it will look nothing like the actual draft or any of these mocks. Somewhere some columnist or blogger will pull out their crazy mock they did (like this Ringer article) and got most of the picks right out of pure luck. They'll promote themselves as a draft guru when all they did was guess. It's kind of like my wife beating me with her March Madness bracket and she picked teams with cool nicknames. You can't completely write them off because of the luck factor, but any success they had with their predictions was because they did something different from most and got lucky.
That's the way it always is. It's a freaking crap shoot. If you're picking in the top five you're far more likely to be right far more often.

Definitely better to be in the later 8 picks in the lottery then to not be in the lottery at all, but the deck is still solidly stacked against you.
 
Carter Bryant gets a lot of Tou comps and I've noted this before, but wanted to show how very different they were as players at the same age.

Tou was far more, fluid, flexible and dynamic with the ball driving from the perimeter whereas Carter plays more like a throwback forward who wants to take a hard dribble or two and pull up or play with his back to the basket to get to a turnaround jumper.

I like Carter ,but I'm interested to see how his offensive game develops. For a guy that shoots it as well as him, you'd want to pair that with an ability to attack a closeout and get to the rim or make the next play and he really hasn't shown that at all so far.



 
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