5/18, 4 Assists from the "PG" Miller in 38 Minutes

[The_Lillard_King]

Re: Andre Miller's stat lines

He's "adapting" to Miller. Roy needs to realize that he is the franchise player and that Miller is at best a 3 year solution, and at worst trade bait within six months.

I think it is more a Roy issue than a Miller issue . . . but I agree with a lot of this.

 

[PapaG]

Re: Andre Miller's stat lines

I think it is more a Roy issue than a Miller issue . . . but I agree with a lot of this.

Roy seems like the type of guy who respects veterans. I hope that the veteran Miller pulls Roy aside and tells him that the team is going nowhere unless Roy asserts himself as the oncourt leader, and the Miller views Roy as the leader of this team.

Of course, since by the last account by Roy they've never even had an offcourt conversation, I don't envision this happening anytime soon.

 

[PHXBlazer1]

A lot of the Miller haters will feel foolish come February. In my humble opinion, it is way way too early to freak out, or even question anything that has happened so far. But this board needs threads and I'll still read them, so whatever. Just my take on the situation.

 

[Natebishop3]

Re: Andre Miller's stat lines

Roy seems like the type of guy who respects veterans. I hope that the veteran Miller pulls Roy aside and tells him that the team is going nowhere unless Roy asserts himself as the oncourt leader, and the Miller views Roy as the leader of this team.

Of course, since by the last account by Roy they've never even had an offcourt conversation, I don't envision this happening anytime soon.

How long ago was that account?

 

[RR7]

The last time he mentioned it, over a month ago, which MUST mean it's still accurate, right? Right!!??Since he hasn't updated us on every off the court conversation since then, the LOGICAL thing to do is assume they have not once spoken off the court.

 

[Natebishop3]

The last time he mentioned it, over a month ago, which MUST mean it's still accurate, right? Right!!??Since he hasn't updated us on every off the court conversation since then, the LOGICAL thing to do is assume they have not once spoken off the court.

This

 

[PapaG]

A lot of the Miller haters will feel foolish come February. In my humble opinion, it is way way too early to freak out, or even question anything that has happened so far. But this board needs threads and I'll still read them, so whatever. Just my take on the situation.

I'm not sure how commenting on Miller's actual stats thus far makes me a "hater". Does mean that I was a Miller "lover" in September when I had convinced myself that the team finally had the passer that they needed to not stall at times on offense?

I'm just posting facts and commenting on them. I hope I do look "foolish" in February to you, but I won't feel foolish.

 

[PapaG]

The last time he mentioned it, over a month ago, which MUST mean it's still accurate, right? Right!!??Since he hasn't updated us on every off the court conversation since then, the LOGICAL thing to do is assume they have not once spoken off the court.

Yes, I said 'last account'. Is there something inaccurate about my post? It is rooted in fact, and you seemed to be rooted in speculation. Has Miller commented about his role, Roy's role, or anybody else's role on the team other than complaining about not coming to Portland had he known he wouldn't be handed a starting spot?

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm not sure how commenting on Miller's actual stats thus far makes me a "hater". Does mean that I was a Miller "lover" in September when I had convinced myself that the team finally had the passer that they needed to not stall at times on offense?

I'm just posting facts and commenting on them. I hope I do look "foolish" in February to you, but I won't feel foolish.

You don't think you will look foolish for jumping to conclusions over a handful of preseason games in which a lot of our regular rotation players have been injured?

 

[PapaG]

You don't think you will look foolish for jumping to conclusions over a handful of preseason games in which a lot of our regular rotation players have been injured?

What conclusions have I jumped to? Seriously? I'm commenting on what I'm hearing on The Game and what I'm seeing in the stats.

I hope it is an adjustment period, but if anybody can honestly say that they hoped Miller would be leading the team by shooting the ball 26 more times than anybody else this preseason while averaging 4 assists per game, I'd love to see that post. When Brandon Roy is leading in assists while playing far fewer minutes, something is wrong.

I hope Miller turns it around, and I believe he will. He'd better, or he will be a wasted signing.

26 more shots than anybody else in 7 games. I had to type it again just to believe it.

 

[KingSpeed]

I'm with PapaG. Yes, it's just preseason and no, I don't watch preseason games, but our POINT GUARD has NO BUSINESS taking 18 shots in a game. As I said in another thread, that is fucking ridiculous. Why the fuck is he shooting the ball? His sole goal should be to get his teammates going. To make everyone else look good. I know, I know, it's just preseason, but someone better pull him aside before the season starts and let him know he shouldn't be shooting the fucking ball. I would prefer 8 points & 10 assists than 15 points & 5 assists.

 

[KingSpeed]

26 more shots than anybody else in 7 games. I had to type it again just to believe it.

That is ludicrous. WHO is allowing that to happen? He should have 26 more assists than everyone else.

 

[MARIS61]

A lot of the Miller haters will feel foolish come February.

Because KP will trade him before then? That would make me feel grateful, and wiser than KP, not foolish.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I'm with PapaG. Yes, it's just preseason and no, I don't watch preseason games, but our POINT GUARD has NO BUSINESS taking 18 shots in a game. As I said in another thread, that is fucking ridiculous. Why the fuck is he shooting the ball? His sole goal should be to get his teammates going. To make everyone else look good. I know, I know, it's just preseason, but someone better pull him aside before the season starts and let him know he shouldn't be shooting the fucking ball. I would prefer 8 points & 10 assists than 15 points & 5 assists.

If it's a matter of this happening at full strength in the regular season, I think it'll be an issue. As it is, go back and take a look at Miller's shot count when Roy, LMA or Oden is in the game. I think you'll find that (esp. due to the weird lineups caused by injuries) Miller's generally "gunning" (actually, taking it to the hoop and attempting to draw fouls) only when the jump-shooting lineup he's with isn't hitting. I don't think Miller's stealing Roy's shots, or LMA's, or Oden's.

That said, if the season starts and he is doing that, I'll happily join you in the WTF Andre?!?! Crusade. But I don't think that's going to be an issue when the team's at full strength and Miller's playing with someone who's a better option on offense than he is.