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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheBlackMamba:</div><div class="quote_post">Ehh really? A poorly made movie that goes to the extremes makes you believe all that? Would you believe me if I made a movie about Santa Claus?



Bush is dumb? I don't like him, but I wouldn't call him dumb. I don't think working your way up to the Presidency is something a dumb person could do. I don't think a dumb person could get accepted into Yale, and then graduate.

Your ideas of 9/11 are the stupidest ideas I've ever heard, about anything. You say you came to this country 6 years ago, and didn't know Barkley was a PF. If you didn't know that, how would you know anything about the U.S., how they handle their relations, how they handle their people. It's a complicated matter, a matter most adults don't understand. Don't come in here making comments that the U.S. set everything up so they could blame Muslims. You probably didn't understand half the video. This is no insult, but you don't come in here making statements like you made. They were very foolish, immature, and outright stupid. You have no evidence to back it up, until you do, just stop posting in this thread.</div>

Thank you. Loose Change is a joke video.
 
TheBlackMamba.. everyone has there own views on 9/11.. you just cant say someone's is stupid because no one knows what really happened.. everyone has there own opinions..you cant tell anyone that there's is stupid..you really dont know what really happened..
 
English 101, son.

You were swayed by a video that went to the furthest extremes to prove it's point. How simple minded are you son?

You're like 13, 14 right? That means you were about 8 or 9 when 9/11 happened, right?
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheBlackMamba:</div><div class="quote_post">English 101, son.

You were swayed by a video that went to the furthest extremes to prove it's point. How simple minded are you son?

You're like 13, 14 right? That means you were about 8 or 9 when 9/11 happened, right?</div>
Ey.. The video had some great points that got my attention, and made me believe in them. I'm 14 going to turn 15 this october. I was 10 at the time. But I guess you are right. Just a video can't prove the whole theory wrong. Lol..you called me "son?" How old are you father?
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheBlackMamba:</div><div class="quote_post">Ehh really? A poorly made movie that goes to the extremes makes you believe all that? Would you believe me if I made a movie about Santa Claus?



Bush is dumb? I don't like him, but I wouldn't call him dumb. I don't think working your way up to the Presidency is something a dumb person could do. I don't think a dumb person could get accepted into Yale, and then graduate.

Your ideas of 9/11 are the stupidest ideas I've ever heard, about anything. You say you came to this country 6 years ago, and didn't know Barkley was a PF. If you didn't know that, how would you know anything about the U.S., how they handle their relations, how they handle their people. It's a complicated matter, a matter most adults don't understand. Don't come in here making comments that the U.S. set everything up so they could blame Muslims. You probably didn't understand half the video. This is no insult, but you don't come in here making statements like you made. They were very foolish, immature, and outright stupid. You have no evidence to back it up, until you do, just stop posting in this thread.</div>
Wow.. You think I am dumb for posting here?? Common man.. Everyone has different opinions on what really happened. Its a opinion, not a fact. Meaning there is no wrong or right answer. So how could you say that my opinion is dumb, when you don't even know if yours is right? Yeah my opinion may sound stupid and all. But why can't I post my thoughts here?? Why can't I post what I think? Everyone has different opinions and I think its right for everyone to post there's no matter how stupid they are. Ok.. I accept that I did say some stuff dumb, but there is no reason for you to get mad at me. All I can say really is.. Sorry man.. If you thought that my opinions were immature, then sorry. I hope that helps. But I think everyone should have a right to post there opinions.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">Ey.. The video had some great points that got my attention, and made me believe in them. I'm 14 going to turn 15 this october. I was 10 at the time. But I guess you are right. Just a video can't prove the whole theory wrong. Lol..you called me "son?" How old are you father?</div>

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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">Wow.. You think I am dumb for posting here?? Common man.. Everyone has different opinions on what really happened. Its a opinion, not a fact. Meaning there is no wrong or right answer. So how could you say that my opinion is dumb, when you don't even know if yours is right? Yeah my opinion may sound stupid and all. But why can't I post my thoughts here?? Why can't I post what I think? Everyone has different opinions and I think its right for everyone to post there's no matter how stupid they are. Ok.. I accept that I did say some stuff dumb, but there is no reason for you to get mad at me. All I can say really is.. Sorry man.. If you thought that my opinions were immature, then sorry. I hope that helps. But I think everyone should have a right to post there opinions.</div>

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I think the nice post was supposed to come after the mean one?

As for your opinion. You were 10 at the time, that's like 5th grade. To be honest with you, I'd bet that you barely remember the events of the day without reading something. You say you hate George Bush and think he's dumb, for what reason? Can you provide me with points on that basis? On Sept. 11, 2001 did you feel that the government set it up so that Bush could portray Muslims as horrible people? Did you know what a Muslim was when you were 10? Did you know what the WTC's were when you were 10? I'm not calling you an idiot, but you came to this country 4 years ago. You lived in another country at the time, right? I'm sure at the age of 10, you didn't have an opinion on Bush, Muslims, Terrorism, and things of that nature.

Why does this video compel you to believe it? Have you watched any counter-arguements? Have you seen any evidence against the video? I doubt it. You've seeen one video, a video that portrays 9/11 as an American act to the fullest extremes.

Have you taken into account the numerous times that Al-qaida and Osama Bin Laden have stated they're responsible for the attacks? There is plenty of evidence out their disputing this video, I suggest you read some of it.
 
lol..I got owned.. Yes I guess you are right.. I really didn't know anything when I was 10. But I was saying bush is dumb for setting up the whole thing, because I thought that was true. But after reading some of your post, I am starting to change my mind.
 
You are right. You are entitled to your opinion.

People don't think the Holocaust happened or that Jews were targeted. That's their opinion. They are entitled to it.

That doesn't mean they aren't stupid (sorry for the double negative). Or wrong. Or dillusional. Or anti-semites.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Vintage:</div><div class="quote_post">You are right. You are entitled to your opinion.

People don't think the Holocaust happened or that Jews were targeted. That's their opinion. They are entitled to it.

That doesn't mean they aren't stupid (sorry for the double negative). Or wrong. Or dillusional. Or anti-semites.</div>

If you haven't seen both sides (counterpoint to the movie), you're being ignorant. If you take for example, the 81 factual errors made in the video, you'd realize what a waste of time it truly was to watch it. So spare me.

http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/lcg6.html

Errors of fact: 81
Post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacies: 92
Assumptions and conjectures not supported by evidence: 92
Photo & video images that do not support statements being made: 48
Non sequiturs: 24
Opinions expressed on technical subjects by non-experts: 22
Anonymous sources: 19
"Straw man" arguments: 10
Overgeneralizations: 10
Arguments to authority: 3
Similes or metaphors taken as literal statements: 12
Statements misleading because incomplete quotes used: 25

Total flubs: 426
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheBlackMamba:</div><div class="quote_post">
Bush is dumb? I don't like him, but I wouldn't call him dumb. I don't think working your way up to the Presidency is something a dumb person could do. I don't think a dumb person could get accepted into Yale, and then graduate.
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His daddy got him in. Yale is all about legacy's, money, and prestige. Bush Senoir has all three, and lots of em.
 
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a nice pic that tells something
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">
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a nice pic that tells something</div>

And what exactly is that? Heh, amazing.
 
Really was the wrong thing to post nearing the anniversary of that day, Umair.
 
it shows how the building wasn't collapsed really by plane. it was also collapsed airplane + explosions.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">it shows how the building wasn't collapsed really by plane. it was also collapsed airplane + explosions.</div>

I believe that it was demolition but then again we all have our opinions.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">it shows how the building wasn't collapsed really by plane. it was also collapsed airplane + explosions.</div>
It also shows the power of photoshop.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">It also shows the power of photoshop.</div>

Heh, you've struck gold.
 
Yea Chutney thats also very true. Because when the bombings happened in lebanon, they showed the real pic and a fake pic an author of a magazine made. thats ture
 
Yea. Not saying that it is for sure a fake, but you can't be completely sure about anything these days.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">Yea. Not saying that it is for sure a fake, but you can't be completely sure about anything these days.</div>

It is completely a fake.
 
I haven't read enough on the issue to say anything for sure, but I'm inclined to agree with you.
 
After reading that website loosechangeguide.com, I no longer believe the video. It's a very well made video though... and unless you do research in those areas or are totally right wing then some of their points come off as convincing.
 
I just became a non-believer of the video today. i dont believ u.s. government could do such a thing to its own people, but again there could be a chance they did.
 
Umair, which is it. They did or they didn't.
 
That picture is real, its just the other building which is out of view and smoking after the first crash. Thats the second plane coming into the second building.
 
u.s. government didn't.. it was terrorists
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">u.s. government didn't.. it was terrorists</div>

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I didnt say otherwise.
 
This might sound harsh, but it's not, that is an amazing picture.

NTC187 is right, that's the second plane coming into the second tower. You can't see the North Tower because of the second tower and all of the smoke from the first plane that hit.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheBlackMamba:</div><div class="quote_post">This might sound harsh, but it's not, that is an amazing picture.

NTC187 is right, that's the second plane coming into the second tower. You can't see the North Tower because of the second tower and all of the smoke from the first plane that hit.</div>

I thought it was the second plane when I first looked at it, but Umair made it appear as if it were the first airplane in some photo-shopish edited pic. This accounts for my doubt.
 
i thought that it was the first plane.. and it looked like there was smoke before plane crashed, so that's why i thought that.
 
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