OT ACAB All Cops Are Bastards (yes EVERY one)

[Phatguysrule]

Imma really need you to quite blaming my response to AMERICA'S divisiveness on me.
NEVER tell the oppressed how to respond to oppression you'd never feel. Also, you say we're your people...

Out of the 197 straight days of protest I was there for more than 160 of them. Honest truth, were you in these streets with us?

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Yes, I was there, though not 160 times. I simply don't have the time for that, as I have 3 children who need my time. I was in downtown Portland several times per week with my children though, so I'm aware of the conditions. You going down there doesn't give you the right to treat others like shit. Fuck off with that.

Again, all poor and most middle class are among the oppressed in this country. Getting in a pissing match about who is more oppressed is incredibly counterproductive and divisive, especially when the solution is the same regardless. This is not to minimize the oppression any specific group feels, just to state that what you are doing is counterproductive. It's playing right into the game they want you playing.

You want to have a discussion about how to improve things, I'm game.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Alright im done. There is no respect telling people the dont know wtf they are talking a out when there is video footage!


None of us were overseas during ww2 so no one should say a damn thing what happened one way or another right????

gimme a break man… ive seen the footage.

 

[dviss1]

so the video footage i saw was fake?

Where do you get your info from, the news??? Because no one should get ANY info there. They are part of the fascist states we live in.

 

[Orion Bailey]

93 fucking percent. Who stormed the capital on Jan 6th???

so then all the videos of cop shootings aRe fake too right?

…as long as it fits the narrative….

 

[dviss1]

Yes, I was there, though not 160 times. I simply don't have the time for that, as I have 3 children who need my time. I was in downtown Portland several times per week with my children though, so I'm aware of the conditions. You going down there doesn't give you the right to treat others like shit. Fuck off with that.

Again, all poor and most middle class are among the oppressed in this country. Getting in a pissing match about who is more oppressed is incredibly counterproductive and divisive, especially when the solution is the same regardless. This is not to minimize the oppression any specific group feels, just to state that what you are doing is counterproductive. It's playing right into the game they want you playing.

You want to have a discussion about how to improve things, I'm game.

YOu are being part of the problem. If you can't say this country has had it in for black people since BEFORE it's inception...

 

[dviss1]

so then all the videos of cop shootings aRe fake too right?

…as long as it fits the narrative….

Blame Antifa because it fits YOUR narrative...

 

[dviss1]

so then all the videos of cop shootings aRe fake too right?

…as long as it fits the narrative….

93 fucking percent.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Where do you get your info from, the news??? Because no one should get ANY info there. They are part of the fascist states we live in.

preaching to the choir. I was saying this a year plus ago aNd got beat in here down for it.

 

[Phatguysrule]

we are nOt a fascist country.
Guess what? Lots of things exist here that many people may disagree with. It doesnt mean the country follows it, is founded by it or is made up of it.

nazis still exist too but were not a nazi country

Our police force is fascist, and behaves in a fascist manner. Protesting that is admirable. Protesting against white supremacists (fascists) is admirable.

 

[dviss1]

It's really funny to me that a MF thinks they can describe some shit without experincing it and seeing some goddamn videos.

Your perspective isn't an informed one @Orion Bailey

You literally live where the fascists come from to HARM US.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Blame Antifa because it fits YOUR narrative...

dont put words in my mouth. I didnt put blame on anyone. I just stated a timeline of cause and effect. I know why antifa does what they do and i agree with their principles. I dont agree with thier tactics.

 

[Phatguysrule]

The police are the most fascist entity on our planet. FACT.

Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all.

 

[Orion Bailey]

It's really funny to me that a MF thinks they can describe some shit without experincing it and seeing some goddamn videos.

Your perspective isn't an informed one @Orion Bailey

You literally live where the fascists come from to HARM US.

as opposed to those who see footage of a cop shooting someone and deem the cop wrong period???


Oh man the double standard is glaring right now.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Lol. The extreme stances are.. well. Gonna push us to war.

 

[dviss1]

dont put words in my mouth. I didnt put blame on anyone. I just stated a timeline of cause and effect. I know why antifa does what they do and i agree with their principles. I dont agree with thier tactics.

I'm not putting words in your mouth. All you say is Antifa this, antifa that.

But MFs that live around the corner from you were shooting in broad daylight in the middle of downtown Portland.
Police arrested him (without harming him). He paid an 800 bail and was RELEASED THE NEXT DAY...

How about watching this damn video:

You literally know NOTHING about Antifa except what you heard on the news.

 

[dviss1]

Lol. The extreme stances are.. well. Gonna push us to war.

Do you even know what Boogaloo Boy means???

Boogaloo is the name of the violent RACE WAR they want to start. They are the boys.

That's THEIR agenda.

WE J, are trying to END the race war that's been waged on my people for 402 years. How about helping in that effort instead of being part of the problem since it doesn't affect you.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Lol. The extreme stances are.. well. Gonna push us to war.

How? You say that shit and this makes people think these are the people you're talking to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boogaloo_movement

If you don't have a logical series of events in mind that actually leads to war then you come off like you are just repeating what you're hearing from somebody. And these are the people who are talking like that.

The extreme stances HURT the cause, IMO. They are divisive among the movement. They garner support for the police. They would prevent anything from becoming serious enough to get to a war.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I'm not putting words in your mouth. All you say is Antifa this, antifa that.

But MFs that live around the corner from you were shooting in broad daylight in the middle of downtown Portland.
Police arrested him (without harming him). He paid an 800 bail and was RELEASED THE NEXT DAY...

How about watching this damn video:

You literally know NOTHING about Antifa except what you heard on the news.

whatever you say D. Im just gonna back away now. But ill give one pc of advice. Dont tell others what they know or dont know. It will never go over well. You don't know what sites ive clicked on and read up on. You dont know who ive had conversations with that have first hand experiences. You assume i know what i know without knowing what investigations i have done….

 

[dviss1]

Yes, I was there, though not 160 times. I simply don't have the time for that, as I have 3 children who need my time. I was in downtown Portland several times per week with my children though, so I'm aware of the conditions. You going down there doesn't give you the right to treat others like shit. Fuck off with that.

Again, all poor and most middle class are among the oppressed in this country. Getting in a pissing match about who is more oppressed is incredibly counterproductive and divisive, especially when the solution is the same regardless. This is not to minimize the oppression any specific group feels, just to state that what you are doing is counterproductive. It's playing right into the game they want you playing.

You want to have a discussion about how to improve things, I'm game.

Who was on Nixon's enemy's list? Black people and hippies. That's who the war on drugs was waged on.
The police are the ones who waged it controlled by the Federal Government. You keep deflecting what's been done to my people and it's sickening...

 

[Orion Bailey]

Do you even know what Boogaloo Boy means???

Boogaloo is the name of the violent RACE WAR they want to start. They are the boys.

That's THEIR agenda.

WE J, are trying to END the race war that's been waged on my people for 402 years. How about helping in that effort instead of being part of the problem since it doesn't affect you.

no point in answering since you know what i know better than i know myself….

 

[dviss1]

whatever you say D. Im just gonna back away now. But ill give one pc of advice. Dont tell others what they know or dont know. It will never go over well. You don't know what sites ive clicked on and read up on. You dont know who ive had conversations with that have first hand experiences. You assume i know what i know without knowing what investigations i have done….

Watch the video of racist whites shooting in the middle of our city. You're so ready to watch "antifa videos".

I just gave you info on a man who was shooting in broad daylight and GOT OUT THE NEXT DAY.

But, that means nothing to you...

 

[dviss1]

no point in answering since you know what i know better than i know myself….

You didn't know anything in that post. I asked you if you knew what it means. Apparently I just educated you.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Who was on Nixon's enemy's list? Black people and hippies. That's who the war on drugs was waged on.
The police are the ones who waged it controlled by the Federal Government. You keep deflecting what's been done to my people and it's sickening...

I didn't deflect that at all. I'm well aware of all of that. I'm advocating for changes that would prevent that happening to ANYBODY in the future.
If that's sickening to you, then I'm sorry, that's your fucking problem. Deal with it.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Watch the video of racist whites shooting in the middle of our city. You're so ready to watch "antifa videos".

I just gave you info on a man who was shooting in broad daylight and GOT OUT THE NEXT DAY.

But, that means nothing to you...[/QUOTE

Whatever you say D. Since you know how i feel better than i do myself…..

 

[Orion Bailey]

You didn't know anything in that post. I asked you if you knew what it means. Apparently I just educated you.

you think because you dont receive the answer you want it means someone doesnt know???

man.. just keep telling me what i do and don't know. And watch my ears close up.


You may think your educating people but your just pushing them away. Those who want to help you push away.

Im done listening to others tell me what i do and dont know for the day.

Thanks.

 

[Chris Craig]

ANTIFA is not BLM

 

[Phatguysrule]

ANTIFA is not BLM

Good point

 

[Natebishop3]

ANTIFA is not BLM

I wonder if the Bureau of Land Management will change their name.

 

[Chris Craig]

I wonder if the Bureau of Land Management will change their name.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I wonder if the Bureau of Land Management will change their name.

No shit, but this was actually a problem last year with the fires. Fucking proud boys were listening to the police scanner (because some are cops) and hearing about BLM land fires and started telling everybody in clackamas county that the fucking Black Lives Matter was starting all of the fires...
So people (including some in my family, ugh) were refusing to evacuate so they could "protect their property from" (ie. get an opportunity to shoot) the "fucking BLM who are starting the land fires"...